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104:)A contributor is changing the name of the Artist of the Painting "The Prayer at Valley Forge" from Henry Brueckner to Arnold Friberg. LTG Baker, who founded VFMA in 1928, used the 1866 Engraving as the basis for the School Crest. If you ever attended Valley Forge, as I did, you should take a look at your Cap Shield or your diploma. General Washington's hat is in front of his right foot, as in the Brueckner painting. In the Friberg painting, which bears the same name, General Washington's hat is near his left knee. Also, on the School Crest, General Washington is shown in 3/4 view, as in the Brueckner Painting. In the Friberg painting, he is in profile. On the Cap Shield and Crests, you can clearly see the hilt of General Washington's sabre exposed from under his cloak. In the Friberg painting, the hilt is not exposed. No horse appears on the Cap Shield. On the Friberg painting, there is a horse behind General Washington. 31: 170:
I am pushing the assessment of this article to a "C" class, after a request was filed at the School Project. This article has multiple problems that need to be remedied before moving to a "B" class, but it has developed to the point, and is referenced enough to move beyond "start". I strongly urge
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on article improvements, destroying noncontroversial changes along with whatever non-specific issues that editor had. So that my edits this time are clear, I am listing them explicitly here. (Apologies to experienced editors — all of these changes are probably self-evident.) There are also other
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I currently go to Valley Forge Military Academy and College. It is hard to say how much it costs. Not everyone has to live on campus. There are full-time boarders, 5-day boarders, and day students. Exact pricing is difficult because there are constant discounts for grades, family who are/served in
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by John C. Fitzpatrick, A.M., Assistant Chief, Manuscript Division, Library of Congress; Daughters of the American Revolution Magazine, 1920) LTG Baker chose the colors for Valley Forge Military Academy because of their immediate visual association with the Continental Army, consistent with
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Blue uniforms with different facing colors, among them buff, were selected for uniform wear by General Washington, for the Continental Army during the American Revolution. Buff and blue uniform colors were those of the Commander-in-Chief's Guard, formed March 12, 1776. (Reference:
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This truly looks to be a special school, and I wish all editors working here the best. If you have some questions regarding my assessment, please drop me a line. If you disagree with the assessment, please feel free to re-list it for assessment by another editor. Best wishes!
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If you don't believe me, you should go to Mellon Hall, and look at the Original painted school colors from 1928-29. You can clearly see that it is a painted copy of the image of George Washington from the Brueckner painting.
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I am sorry, but, even though you may think you are right, Arnold Friberg did not paint the painting used by LTG Baker in 1928 as the basis for the school crest. The school crest predates Mr. Friberg's work by over 45 years!
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The most astounding increase, +270% to be exact, is with the women in the college. In 2008–2009 the college enrolled a total of 10 women, this year the school welcomed 37 new and returning women into the
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In general, lyrics to school songs may be copyright issues. Even if they are not, they are generally frowned upon because they are not encyclopedic, and/or take up a great deal of space in the article.
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Sorry to waste everyone else's time, but apparently someone needs to have reasons explained to them. As for the anonymous IP that is running wild: hopefully that person will read
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Valley Forge Military College has the largest number of West Point Prepsters out of all the West Point approved Prepster programs in the country, with 18 currently enrolled.
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Unclear whether "Colonel" is a rank awarded by an external authority, or internally awarded by the Academy. If it is internally awarded, is it a violation of
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to show reason why someone would be astounded — maybe for the same reason there is no reliable source that they were "welcomed" either.
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says "Trumpets pitched in the key of low G are also called sopranos, or soprano bugles, after their adaptation from military bugles"
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and devoid of any apparent meaning. (What does the editor think the other thousands of schools in the world have grade levels for?)
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The Academy’s academic strength comes from the amount of age-appropriate support provided for students at specific grade levels.
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distinction again: no evidence of any standard for "often", "some", or "prestigious" other than editors' own biases.
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Can somebody who knows please add the costs (does everybody have to live on-campus?) and fees? Thanks in advance.
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Cadets who show proficiency in college courses greatly distinguish themselves in the college admission process.
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No citation for this or any other Prepster programs' student counts, therefore no evidence of "largest".
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due to the wide variety of Advanced Placement, elective, and college classes qualified cadets enroll in.
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VFMA&C's administration is composed almost entirely of distinguished current or retired military
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:H._R._McMaster&oldid=216768875#McMaster.27s_promotion
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changes, such as wikification and non-controversial maintenance, for which removal would simply be
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There needs to be substantial improvement in referencing, especially in in-line citing of material.
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The Plebe system is what ties alumni together as they become members of the "Long Line of Grey."
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Valley Forge Military Academy provides detailed information concerning its academic program.
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I will not bother to edit any further. Sorry to have disrupted you and wasted your time.
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Distinguished how, and according to whom are these more distinguished than anyone else?
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Alumni often attend some of the nation's most prestigious colleges and universities,
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to off-campus sites" because there is no citation or comparison with other schools.
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The excessive details of every rank for every type of uniform has been removed per
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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The Valley Forge Military Academy & College Regimental Band is world famous
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the military, ect. If I can find out the prices I will edit the page at once.
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The band was the lead group in the 2009 Lord Mayor's New Year's Day Parade in
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The following have been tagged because they are claims of quality without
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Essay-like attempt to associate the school with positive qualities – not
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Colonel John E. Steele, Jr., Valley Forge Military Academy & College
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source's statement doesn't make it become neutral even if it is sourced.
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Here is a link to the Brueckner painting "The Prayer at Valley Forge."
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Here is a link to the Friberg painting "The Prayer at Valley Forge."
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Dissolves?! Decreases over the year, doesn't exist at all, or what?
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keep an eye out for a promotion from colonel to brigadier general.
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The singing of school songs are an important tradition at VFMAC.
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So they are owned by the same people now? Or is it like
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