Template talk:Edit fully-protected/Archive 1

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looks good in firefox almost invariably looks terrible in IE7, and often vice versa, just because of the different way the browsers interpret html. Individual users' display settings, colour pallets, monitor sizes and a host of other factors all affect how the page is displayed, so the more freedom Knowledge can give the users' browser to display the code however looks best for that users' environment, the better. Secondly, it gives the user the opportunity to make their own customisations via

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changed, test it, test it some more, then add the tag and either say "replace this code with this code" or "copy the code from this sandbox". So all the admin has to do is determine that there is consensus for the change, make sure the change works in the sandbox, copy the relevant code, check it works in preview, save, and check a few WhatLinksHere to make sure they haven't screwed anything up. General wishy-washy requests are not usually acted upon, so why not make that clear?

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an obvious tag that will attract attention from the wider Knowledge community to the page and get it fixed. All they see is a padlock. They don't even know that admins exist, let alone the difference between fully protected and semi protected pages - all they know is that they can't fix it. There really is no reason to not just use this template for the purpose. As you will notice, I do.

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editors seeing a note on a talk page is particularly ineffective because there is a large degree of NIH (not invented here). If it isn't someone's primary interest they are clearly not interested in fixing something that someone else found. Notes on talk pages languish for weeks. I know - I've left plenty of them.

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Seeing today's vandalism on this template, I'd like to ask: why isn't it protected? It's not like we have a good reason to go around editing it all the time, and its very nature as a sign of you-can't-edit-this-page means that it's a more tempting target for someone inclined toward vandalism. To me

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Agree. Sometimes I turn off the templates when I see the discussions going on with a note to report it when it comes back. If you are trying to draw people to the discussions, I would suggest notifying editors through a WikiProject, the pump, or user talk pages if necessary, but I don't see value in

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Request to change Joe Girardi's info box to the Cubs red and blue colors (as it was previously listed before someone changed to Yankees blue and gray and then the page got protected). Girardi played twice as many years on the Cubs and also played 2 separate stints in Chicago. He only played 3 years

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Importantly, if someone reverts your change to a popular template, do not revert back until consensus has been reached on the talk page (eg in this case, including me, 3 people have turned up to oppose the addition of the summary parameter). Please revert the template to version before the compulsory

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an admin is the reason for this template. Edit requests to fully-protected pages are no different to edit requests to semi-protected pages or even substantial edits to normal pages - they should be proposed on the talk page, discussed, a consensus arrived at, and then implemented. This template is

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I've observed this problem on numerous occasions. It appears to stem from the mistaken belief that the template's purpose is to announce a proposal to edit a protected page. (In fact, its purpose is to flag down a sysop to perform an immediate change.) That's why I added text advising against the

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The current text of the template has: "Please remove this template after the request is fulfilled." But what if the request is denied? Shouldn't this be "fulfilled or denied"? Actually, perhaps there should be a somewhat more defined indication of closure, along the lines of AfD closures, perhaps by

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That's hardly a valid suggestion. Think about it - Knowledge has over a million users, some of those users actually see blatantly wrong items, and want to get them corrected, but have no interest in ever using Knowledge again, let alone registering a username and waiting four days. All they want is

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template. However it is helpful to have everyone look over the editprotected requests and it would not be handy to have to look in two places. What I would like to see is them all on the same page but separated - the fully protected ones at the top, then a horizontal ruling, then the semi-protected

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Please change "fully-protected" to "protected" in the two locations where it appears. There is no reason to pretend that fully protected is any different than semi-protected. Think about it. The only way a fully protected page gets edited is by an admin. Are you saying that there are so many admins

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I wrapped the table in a div with id editprotected. This enables custom formatting of the box, like class="editprotected" would. But it needs to be an id, not a class, so that you can link to the request by adding #editprotected to the end of the talk page URL. This will fail to validate if there

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I prefer the non-summary version and reverted to it. After seeing three editprotected requests in a row with the silly-looking "The summary is: {{{1}}}", I'm convinced that if people want to explain their rationale for editing the protected page, they prefer to do so outside of the template itself.

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I have noticed that the template adjusts to the various namespaces it is placed in, by giving the type of the page in the first sentence. This is an interesting and sometimes helpful feature, and I could even say that I like it. However, this superficial adaptability makes the template look rather

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Knowledge is designed to shift as much of the rendering choices onto the user's browser as possible, for several reasons. Most importantly, it means that the formatting can be made to work more easily with a wider range of browsers, some of which display identical html code very differently. What

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You can see how much I know about watchlisting... And yes IPusers get ignored a lot - but they occasionally do notice things that need to be fixed, and taking out a username just to get noticed is not a good solution. Out of 6,837,699 usernames I wonder how many are socks, sleepers, and people who

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You are right - most wikipedia users don't even know that talk pages exist. However, leaving notes on talkpages isn't enough - a flag to the wider community is necessary that will attract editors who do not have that talk page on their watch list (whoever watchlists talk pages anyway?). Relying on

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However if "anyone" was looking at those requests and making them "immediately", there wouldn't be any for them to get lost among. From a technical standpoint it would be nifty if the software could sort them into protected/semi-protected with a HR separating them so that admins could focus on the

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That first sentence is just so verbose, and still misleadingly says "immediate". I agree the passive keeps the focus off the editor and on the edit, which is good, but there are active voice wordings which would achieve the same effect and be briefer. What about something similar to the following:

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Why does this template have to be protected? It doesn't have a history of vandalism or edit warring, it's not extensively transcluded at any one time (5 articles at time of writing). I'm assuming the admin who protected it just had protection on the brain when they were reading the template, but I

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This should be changed to indicate that it is used for any protected page. The average number of requests at any given time is three, it should be encouraged that this template be used on semi-protected pages so that the wider community can verify their veracity. Just take out the word "fully" in

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You'd be surprised; I've seen "can you make the template smaller", "can someone add a 'date' field" (nothing more or less than that), and so forth. The idea is that editors come together and propose a change on the talk page, make a sandbox if one doesn't exist already, work out what needs to be

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Immediate is fine. The point is that the edit should be made as soon as someone sees it - if it is indeed reasonable, and that there is no request for discussion, and no need for any delay. What I see happening is that a lot of the requests languish as though no one wants to tackle them, or stick

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Under 'General considerations' it says "Please do not use this template to request edits to pages which are only" Only what? the sentence cuts off and then says "but any user may make the change if it is sensible; administrator intervention is not required" which, if true, would make protection

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in such discussions. The only reason an admin is needed to make edits to protected pages is because no one else has the technical capacity. Any autoconfirmed user may make a semi-protected edit, and since there are well over a million of them, they don't really need a template to attract their

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It might be harder to editors to use the template if it had more complicated syntax such as parameters; they are already familiar with the current setup, which is simple and elegant. I rephrased the template slightly which removed an unsightly line break (for me at least) and added a link to the

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That's good to hear, however I suspect you are in a tiny minority. Although I'm sure you've been asked this before, if (as it appears) you are a committed contributor, why don't you create your own account? Then you're only a few days and edits away from being able to edit semi-protected pages

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It's harsh but true, that the main reason your comments to talk pages go unnoticed is probably because your 'username' is a collection of numbers. That said, pages are always protected for a reason, and that reason is also going to result on the pages being watchlisted by involved parties, and

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Also please change the word "accompanied" to "followed". In many instances editors have written long rambling discussions of what they wanted done - sort of - and then added the template. It is much better to be very specific as to where you want the request located - after the placement of the

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Given that MediaWiki pages are perpetually protected, both these elements are superfluous and might even look slightly ridiculous in this context; the second one is also fairly misleading. Is it possible to make them not appear when the template is transcluded in the MediaWiki talk namespace?

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If non-auto-confirmed users want to use a template to request edits, it should be a different template (or the same template with different options, to put the request into a different category) so that admins can choose not to take up their time with semi-protected edit requests. There are

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The bottom half of the template goes wide when this template is placed on talk pages, or at least on "Template talk:" namespace talk pages. This broken bottom half's background also matches the color of said talk pages, making it difficult to discern the template from the talk page content

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I agree. "followed" will mean that after a rambling discussion which maybe sort-of demonstrates consensus and which maybe sort-of describes the edit, then someone will have to at least restate clearly what the desired edit is (even if only "the edit described in the above discussion" :-\

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and, like all administrative categories, CAT:EP is regularly backlogged with requests. Essentially the problem is that if everyone used the template for semi-protected requests as well as full-protected ones, the (as you say, relatively few) fully-protected pages (the ones which actually

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says so, and yes, I expect that your guess is pretty close. I agree to a certain extent with the usefulness of the template in attracting attention, and that certainly makes sense from an editor's and certainly from an IP's perspective. However, from the admin end, every transclusion of

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There is something wrong, it states that batista is the currnet world heavyweight champion, but the Undertaker defeated at wresltemania 23, and the last man standing match at backlash 2007 ended in a draw after a spear to the bottom of the entrance ramp, i hope you fix this big mistake.

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until the edit protection (which is only a week) just conveniently expires is deliberate. According to the image of glowing effiency you wish to portray with the above statistics, processing for this "editprotect" is long overdue. Please can somebody get around to looking at this.

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If this hypothetical IP user knows enough to use editprotected, they know the talk page exists, which is the real hurdle. If the IP user leaves a note on the talk page, any editor with the page on their watchlist can fix the problem; no admin attention is needed. — Carl

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be downgraded from protected to semi-protected status (with the same user authorizations as the Doctor Steel page, i.e. established users and admins)? (If this is in the wrong place I apologize; your instructions were rather confusing...) Thank you very much. I have a

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Okay, good point. I forgot to mention earlier that I bolded "specific description" to try and get the point across. I say go ahead and implement the new template, I think that will be the best way to get comments on the new version rather than waiting for them here.

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We could wait and see whether this wording discourages the semi-protected requests before adding in a whole sentence about that; the previous wording said nothing about fully-protected and looks to me as if it means it's fine to use it for semi-protected requests.

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or similar when it is passed parameters. I would like to remove the support for the parameter, such that the template cannot be passed any parameters. This should not really inconvenience anyone, as it only affects where they have to put the closing braces.

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This template should only be used to request edits, to fully protected pages, that are uncontroversial or supported by consensus. If you believe the proposed edit might be controversial, please discuss it on the protected page's talk page before using this

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Go for it. Personally, I've never seen it used to request protection, but I have several occasions where this no clue as to what the edit should be. I'm all for making this box easier to find (i.e. bigger. Is there any way to make the template work like

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Can we make the words "go back" (in the phrase "Please go back to the page you just came from and discuss there instead of here.") into a browser history link? I'm not sure of the syntax or I'd do it myself, but I know it's something like "history.go-1"

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Administrators will check this category for protected edit requests to process. In the three months of September through November 2007, the average time for a request to be handled was approximately 23 hours, and 75% of requests were resolved within 26

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It is not the pages that have to be uncontroversial, but the edits! What about "This template should only be used to request uncontroversial edits to fully-protected pages." If there is an adjective form of consensus, insert it after uncontroversial.

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You've got the purpose of this template completely backwards. As an IP, yes, there's no difference to you between full protectoin and semi protection, so you have to propose changes to semi-protected pages on the talk page. But there are over six

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Hi. One consideration with the change you implemented there is that it doesn't give guidance to editors who want edits to a sp page that does not have active monitoring on the talk page. I wonder about directing them to the help desk for that.

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I've done my best - if there's any more text you think you can cut out, be my guest. I chose the gold padlock because it's used in the protection templates for full protection, which is what this is related to. The red packlock is used for

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to decline the requests on pages that aren't fully protected. In the worst case, you can simply register a username, wait four days, and make the edit yourself. After that you will be able to edit semiprotected pages without waiting. — Carl

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The current template doesn't say anything, but the documentation notes that it is only for full protection. Asking for an admin to edit a semi-protected page is completely unnecessary. If I had to cut a sentence, I'd chop the bit about

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I quite like the wording of this first sentence, with the possible ommission of "immediate". Using the passive voice takes the emphasis off the editor who has requested the edit, and onto the actual edit itself, which is what should be

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I'm glad to see that it is there but it would be better to reword the very verbose italic section and explicitly state that there was a link for other requests. Oh and the template gets used a lot by IPusers on semi-protected pages.

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And don't give me any BS about this increasing the load on Admins, it will decrease the load because it will invite the wider community to review the current requests and comment on them, making it easier for anyone to act on them.

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Wow, that many users now? I bet less than 1% are active users. The template is quite useful for flagging the need to make an edit on a protected page, no matter who makes the edit. It separates the request from how about this to

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I turned the current version into a tableless notice. The ability to edit ther template in general is not hampered much. I put the code and example below. Tell me if I made any mistakes. Also, The <div style="margin: 3px;":

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who can't type that there needs to be a template just to call attention to their typos, and the rare case were information changes that needs to be corrected? The principle use of the template is on semi-protected pages.

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user comes along who can make the change if it makes sense. By contrast, there are only 1,500 administrators on the english wikipedia, which is far less than the number of protected pages. We're not special - we don't

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ones above the bar and other users wouldn't need to waste their time trying to edit them, although as I said before it is beneficial for everyone to look at the requested protected edits to see if they are reasonable.

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Would it be a good idea to add a reminder that administrators should attribute the change to whoever threw up the request? I usually use an edit summary something like "implement edit-protected request prepared by

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I would like to clarify the line in the current version of the template that reads "This template should only be used to request edits to fully-protected pages that are uncontroversial or supported by consensus."

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Reason for this documentation: users looking for the "otheruses" templates but who have forgotten what they're called will likely look for "Template:Disambiguation" which will take them to "Template:disambig".

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Editprotected works fine as is, the nominator just types the request, signs, and adds the tag. The admin removes the tag, writes "done" (or a bit more otherwise), signs, ready. No reason to introduce parameters.

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since it uses the term "immediate" which makes it sound like it is only for urgent matters. So instead of making a new template I suggest removing the two occurances of the word "immediate" from the template.

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This template's explanation is incomprehensible to most users, and it's missing the instructions. Instead of "This notice is to be placed on the talk page and adjacent to the request text.", this should say:

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I have kind of had the opposite problem. I have suggested things on talk pages of permanently protected articles and then waited for days without any response from other editors. But I hesitated to use the

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Simplify, and avoid passive voice? Also, the edit request is not going to be acted upon immediately or necessarily at all, so better not to describe it as an "immediate edit", which raises expectations.

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ones. Remember that the distinction needs to be generated on the fly as the protection of each page could have easily changed since the request was made. You have heard of NIMBY, well the opposite is

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It's just that neither of them really say the same thing as the current wording. The first is better, but clashes with the second line. It just doesn't flow properly. The second is too ambiguous -

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which does allow the user to type in the reason, when the request is comfirmed or denied, the admin simpliy nowikis it or removes the template and keeps the reason, so why not with {{editprotected}}?

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Reply: I like this one. Quicker to the point; less small print makes it more likely that it will be red. I like the gold lock in this template, too--more harmonious in the overall color scheme. :) --

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What purpose would your proposed template serve? Why would we want to attract special attention to these proposals via a new category (instead of allowing the discussions to progress normally)? —

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There has been an "editprotect" request on a page outstanding for three days (76 hours) and, given the above statement about response efficiency, I'm beginning to think that the non-handling of

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This template is for requesting changes to the content of the page (]). To request that the page itself be protected or unprotected, please make a request at ''']''' instead.</small: -->

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Any of the versions suggested on this page are fine with me, but in case anybody is looking for extreme brevity, here's another suggestion: "Specific description of proposed edit to this

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please add the following: "For templates to place on other pages directing a reader to the disambiguation page, see ]." This can be added at the bottom of the page. Alternatively, add:

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I haven't seen this before, the above template shows an "Edit" tab, but when I click on that tab, it only shows the source and says it's edit protected. Am I missing something here??!! --

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How can I request to edit a protected page when even its talk page is protected (so I cannot put the template)?? I think protecting talk pages should not be allowed. I would like to edit

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who are interested in patrolling CAT:EP, I seriously doubt that there are, or would be, any non-admins who would do it. I am personally of the opinion that the links in the template to

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reason to use it in lieu of the "official" golden padlock. I assume/hope that the zebra padlock was a joke - although it might be an interesting switch to make on April Fool's Day...

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The tempalte code was changed by Andrew Hampe to use no tables, and this appears to be broken. I reverted to the table version until the nontable version is fixed and tested. — Carl

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This notice is to be placed on the talk page and adjacent to the request text. Please make the request clear and specific as much as possible. It is automatically categorised into

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be unprotected - which is not really what editprotected is about. A change to a page with the red padlock on it is a Big Deal, which is not really the effect we're going for

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Is it really necessary to say this? The template will be used by editors who want to propose an edit. How else would an editor propose an edit except by describing it?

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To ask an administrator to edit a protected page, you can add this notice on the talk page adjacent to the request by writing "{{Editprotected}}" without the quotes.

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Agreed. Discuss and (where needed) advertise the discussion as needed. When consensus to make a change has been reached, use 'editprotected' if no admins are around.

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listed itself in the category for requested updates, because it was used here (on its talk page) as example. That's fixed now for some weeks, therefore I hope that a

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Why was this deleted? Userboxes seemed to be quite popular. I thought they were a great way to say things about yourself without having to write an autobiography.

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This template doesn't appear on articles, only talk pages. And most of the time it is on about 8 talk pages. So there is no enough risk to justify full protection.

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I have convinced the editor who was causing the furor to hold off adding his proposed information to the article until the info can be proven by a reliable source.

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subcategory - are there good reasons? I don't think so, I think {Editprotected} works fine as is. But by all means discuss, maybe there is something I am missing.

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watched, but I doubt that many protected pages are among them. As Carl says, anyone watchlisting a page automatically gets the talk page as well, and vice versa.

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has gone unanswered for six days and still sits there. This block is indefinite, so it's not going to resolve itself. Can an administrator please get on to this?

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Hi. You're in the wrong place - I don't even know which article you are talking about. Could you make the request on the talk page of the article? — Martin

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summary parameter. If there is a concern that people will try to use a summary parameter but it doesn't exist, perhaps an optional parameter as found in

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an admin to make the change) would get lost in amongst the other requests, which would completely defeat the purpose of the system in the first place.

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If that is the case, then had I been around at the time I would have opposed the use of the red padlock. My interpretation of the red image is derived

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Espoo is right, I couldn't figure it out and had a perfectly valid need for this. Please as some instructions giving the text to be entered. Thanks!

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Removing the word "immediate" (which I added on 30 July) would increase the likelihood of users believing that the template's purpose is to announce a

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Ok, dropped. What do you think about shortening the 13-word sentence down to something like either the 7-word or the 10-word one I suggested above? -

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There's no need for two templates, I agree, because I agree with others that editprotected requests are only for fully protected pages. The table at

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I believe you open the log, look up the username of the admin who protected the talk page, and if the admin is still active in Knowledge, put your

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Protection log link is now omitted when used on MediaWiki_talk, and RFP advice is replaced by a note that MediaWiki pages can't be unprotected. —

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Well, that worked about as well as I expected it to: JzG declined (color me not surprised). But at least I followed protocol. Will post it on the

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Looks good to me, and I don't care what color the padlock is :P Hopefully people will actually start reading it and follow the directions. -

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Hmm. I'll probably implement the top half tomorrow unless someone objects; I don't want to do the whole thing without some a second opinion.

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It is best not to look at precedents in Knowledge, but look at each problem separately and find the best solution. Is a summary parameter and

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I think there is a similar amount of ambiguity in all of the wordings; the current wording is ambiguous as to who is making the request ("

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Sounds good, maybe change "and" to "or". Linking doesn't take up any space, and makes the run of text a bit more interesting, so why not?

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Why? Because protecting pages that only administrators can edit is inherently anti-wiki and POV. This template tries to minimise that. --

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If you believe the proposed edit might be controversial, please discuss it on the protected page's talk page before using this template (

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Sometimes blocked users do this with {{unblock}}, I could add an optional paramater but I don't know how to do that, could someone help?

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There is a typo under the white phosphorous section that says: "completion of the three-day Israesli withdrawal", can an admin fix it? -

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I ask that now that that has been settled down (see talk page on the WWE roster page for the exchange), that the page be unlocked.

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The protected page (why was it fully protected if only an anon vandalized it once, we have semi-protection) should be in category

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Actually -- nevermind, I see your response above. Maybe if it just actually said "without delay" that would clarify this... --

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is supposed to review it? The admin or other editors? The third shifts the focus back to the editor rather than the edit: "

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I would like to suggest this template be modified. A lot of the text it contains should be removed from the template itself:

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modifying the template invocation to {{editprotected fulfilled}} or {{editprotected denied|reason=you must be kidding}}. --

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I've changed "fulfilled" to "handled", and added a section to the documentation on what to do upon resolution, e.g. change

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both occurrences. Also the link to the request log is a bit awkward. Just move the link to the end of the last sentence:

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As I said above, asking an admin to change a semi-protected page is completely unnecessary, but loads of IPs still do it.

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I have been seeing a fair number of editprotected templates used with the request added as the first unnamed parameter (

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does show the protection level of the page, among other things. When I handle editprotected requests, I sometimes use

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The redesign has five links in it but it eliminates the most important link - the one to the list of other requests.

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could be added. I don't like it, it's not necessary and makes things more complicated, but perhaps there is a need.--

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to protect the page and it is not a function of MediaWiki, it appears editable until you actually try to edit it. —

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their neck out in agreement, although I admit some are so baffling that it is hard to see what edit was intended.

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I'm not familiar with the term, but it seems about right - the current wording just seems to sound better to me.

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If you believe that a desired change might be controversial, please discuss it on the protected page's talk page

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inserting this template. To request that the page itself be protected or unprotected, please make a request at

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inserting this template. To request that the page itself be protected or unprotected, please make a request at

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not to autosign the comment, which is unhelpful. It is also impossible to quickly disable the template with

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I agree. Adding back the sentence about semi-protected pages is drifting back towards the original wording;

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is the page for requests like this. However in this case, it might be better to contact the protecting admin

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I agree, we should give credits to the users that suggest the improvements. I usually use the edit summary "

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template, add the sentence: If you think this edit needs to be discussed, please replace this template with

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using this template. To request that the page itself be protected or unprotected, please make a request at

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Is there a non-immediate template I should be using for more casual requests? I'm almost never in a rush.

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users who can make that change for you if it's appropriate. You won't have to wait very long before an

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having an advertisement for people to discuss unrelated topics which just happen to all be protected. --

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strange when it is used for requests made for changes to MediaWiki pages. This is due to two elements:

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have forgotten their password and will never use them again. By the way thanks for fixing the US page.

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instructions. I also limitd the width to 5.5in, which will make it easier to find by making it taller.

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This doesn't look like a template. It looks like a Knowledge page with sections and bullet points. —

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It should be added that Bruce Gordon is no longer the president of the NAACP. He resigned March 4.

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since someone did an editrequest to update the delegate count following the most recent primary.

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The sentence repeats what is clearly implied by the previous two sentences, and could be omitted.

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today I found several semi-protected pages, but not one where the request was for unprotection.

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I'm not sure why it's necessary to split it into a new paragraph; that will only make the text

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Could someone show some examples of how this can be used? Is it currently being used anywhere?

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Is it necessary to say that? The template should stick to the point, which concerns edits to

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think it's unnecessary and by principle we should start from a no-protection starting point.

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For starters we can add something about that in the /doc page of this template, in section "

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I've reverted it. This makes the conversation hard to follow when the template is removed.

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are multiple protected edit requests, but that should be a very rare and minor problem.

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Why isn't the template FULLY PROTECTED? Do any of you want people vandalizing this page?

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probably anyone who is involved in mediating. There are a lot of wikipedia pages which

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It is requested that an edit be made to this fully protected page (see protection log).

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Shorten and move bolding? "This template should only be used to request edits that are

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I have modified this template so that users can add the summary of the requested edit.

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Excellent job, Ms Webb. Thank you for your speedy and efficient action on my request.

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That would be fine, although I fail to see the need for two templates - just create a

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2. I agree with your point 2 about the risks of not explaining what should be obvious.

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To request that the page itself be protected or unprotected, please make a request at

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needs to be changed to the proper term, ----- " U.S. Marine Corps."" Thanks

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Previously no-one wanted to create a separate semi-protected edit request template.

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When you watchlist an article you also automatically watchlist the talk page.— Carl

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I have absolutely no idea where you got that idea from. I added the red padlock to

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not increase the load on those few (three, maybe four regulars) admins who patrol

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Yes, this works. Perhaps a little bit more bureaucratic but quite understandable.

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Please remove this notice and close the discussion once the request is completed.

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be used to request uncontroversial edits, or edits for which there is already a

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Taking the redesign proposal from the previous section one sentence at a time:

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be used to request uncontroversial edits, or edits for which there is already a

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Heh, sorry, I had two windows open, edited the wrong one. Sorry about that... -

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and so is part of the Knowledge project rather than the encyclopaedic content.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Looks fine. Someone wanted a shorter version of the wording; how about this?

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of protected edit requests that should make it more convenient to handle them.

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Please move this notice and close the discussion once the request is completed.

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request on the admin's user talk page. If that fails, escalate the request to

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in New York and the Yankees are not the most reflective team for his career.

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A link in the message box's first line to the hosting page's protection log.

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with which to make the edit. If the page is only semi-protected, you don't

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Alterations to semi-protected pages may be performed by any logged-in user.

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This template should be followed by a specific description of the request.

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page of a protected page with the precise wikitext you want to be edited.

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be used to request edits which are clearly uncontroversial or which have

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only relevant for that last step - as a flag to bring someone with the

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This template is for requesting changes to the content of the page (

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Remind administrators to give credit to the proposer for the change

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asked user to put the request on the specific talk page, not here

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Adding border, per editprotected request on talkpage by Username

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to edit a protected page (an extremely common misconception). —

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because I thought it was prettier; we could just as easily use

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is completley irrelevant, and could quite happily be removed.

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It is requested that an edit or modification be made to this

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Or is your objection more simply whether or not there is a

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This template should only be used to request edits that are

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Excellent point - I've linked "requests" to the category.

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A lot of people seem to use this tag when they really want

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whether a proposed change is appropriate - we just follow

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The last sentence, regarding requests for (un)protection.

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an admin to change it, so there's no need to call one.

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Please would an admin review this proposed edit to this

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is used to mark a protected page for a proposed update.

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I added some parenthetical commas. What do you think?

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which can be used on talk pages of protected templates.

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Not sure how you got to this page, but I fixed it...

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Can someone please add ] to the interwiki's. Thanks.

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but not {{editprotected}}? I still don't understand.

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Adding border, per editprotected request by Username

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article was recently accepted, might I request that

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important backlogs admins need to be looking at. --

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Given the difficulty in finding 1184:tag, as this caused errors with centering. — 4009:Knowledge:Protection policy#Semi-protection 3869:I do. I frequently look over the requests. 2281:This template is for requesting edits to a 1984:This template is for requesting edits to a 326:It is particularly useful for the proposed 2404:uncontroversial and supported by consensus 2327:uncontroversial and supported by consensus 399:Category:Knowledge protected edit requests 388:Category:Knowledge protected edit requests 292:Category:Knowledge protected edit requests 205:Category:Wikipedia_protected_edit_requests 2870:This template should be accompanied by a 2812:This template should be accompanied by a 2663:Please review this proposed edit to this 2545:This template should be accompanied by a 2267:This template should be accompanied by a 1975:This template should be accompanied by a 1221:this template should be accompanied by a 935:This template should be accompanied by a 4095:Template:Editnotices/Page/British people 929:fully-protected/Archive 1 protection log 773:What if the talk page is protected too!! 598:I was trying to make it consistant with 1421:, and at the auto-generated summary at 1183:cannot be put in the first <div: --> 654:subcategory necessary and effective in 247:Template:Edit fully-protected/Archive 1 14: 2773:In what way does the first sentence in 1924:The request to fix several aspects of 952:Knowledge:Requests for page protection 540:who migrated the rest of this zoo. -- 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2381:I propose the following edit to this 1621:AFD'ed is denied. How can this be? __ 1278:{{{category|]}}}</includeonly: --> 1253:{{{category|]}}}</includeonly: --> 2717:Why not just drop the "immediate"?? 2363:Put the sentence in a new paragraph? 1413:requests which are up for discussion 25: 2842: 2784: 2517: 2369: 1947: 719:There is no point to this change. — 497:request here could now work again: 23: 4066:Recommended action upon resolution 4007:That sentence ends with a link to 3592:. Hallelujah, someone has created 3185:Not just for fully-protected pages 2040:). Can we use that one instead? -- 1884:Response to "editprotect" requests 1727:Yeah, you are in the wrong place, 1194: 24: 18:Template talk:Edit fully-protected 4167: 3706:Adaptation to MediaWiki namespace 2489:And as I've said above, I really 1926:Los Angeles International Airport 1265:<div style="margin: 3px;": --> 1192: 3213: 3060:Knowledge:This page is protected 2994:Knowledge:This page is protected 2968:Knowledge:This page is protected 2846: 2788: 2521: 2373: 1951: 1664: 1297: 911: 29: 2329:." 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An admin's voice carries 3833:in the capacity of an editor 3612:01:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC) 3166:I've removed the parameter. 2581:requests for page protection 2557:be used to request edits to 2422:requests for page protection 2356:requests for page protection 2191:requests for page protection 2006:requests for page protection 1879:10:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC) 1820:15:22, 12 January 2010 (UTC) 1806:10:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC) 1788:23:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC) 1766:19:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC) 1748:08:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC) 1735:about it. Regards, — Martin 1722:00:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC) 1687:03:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC) 1645:17:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC) 1636:Maybe you should ask at the 1240:requests for page protection 786:20:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC) 767:22:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC) 750:20:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC) 481:Editprotected update request 410:19:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC) 321:17:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC) 7: 4052:22:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 2921:." 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