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We could leave it as it is, but I'd prefer not to do that unless somebody rationalises it; we could remove it, on the grounds that it's like the ommitted
American scenes; we could put it in brackets after the United States entry; or we could find some other name for it. I think I'd prefer to put it
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I removed two redlinks in this hip hop template because they are useless and lead nowhere. Another colleague reinstated them back (Chilean hip hop and
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How come there is no article about
Croatian hip-hop? All EX-YU states have their hip-hop article except Croatia. Here are the names of some Croatian hip-hop artists and bands: Elemental, TBF, Nered, Bolesna braća, Stoka, Shorty... I think that Croatian hip-hop article is necessary.
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Could someone please make sure that this template has all genres (even those that don't have pages) that fit under hip hop and none that don't? I'd also like each genre to be put under the Hip hop category and the template in all of the genres. Don't forget to message me.
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The problem was circumvented and has recurred since Yath commented. I don't understand how we got round it. My attempt to repeat the response didn't work. I propose that we change the title and remove the links to
American hip hop and Native American hip hop, as below.
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is listed in a form different from that of the other entries. Can anything be done about that? Should the practice of refering to a scene here by its territory only extend to national and continental scenes?
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I don't think geography matters so much as national identity, though. There is, to a certain extent, a
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Nope. Bold provides emphasis. Embolden continents and multinational regions, sure, but not "nations". Native
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With the immense amount of knowledge between us, we can easily begin stubs for all those articles. Why don't we do it? I have some information on hip hop scenes in some of those countries.
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