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has students graduating from it with BA/S. This moves me to my next point. When one starts categorizing colleges into
Masters and Bachelors you run the risk of incorrectly listing them (for example, SAU and UC do offer Masters programs). Also, when one adds a "Canadian" section, that also screws it all up. The average reader would get confused. They might think, "Is the Canadian one special? Does it not offer Masters or Bachelors programs?" I, personally, believe that we should list them colleges and universities how they relate to the Church. I mean, that is what this article is called first right? "Seventh-day Adventist..." If we list them how they relate to the church, affiliation according to the Seventh-day Adventist Yearbook, then that has lesser chance of confusing people, Adventist and non-Adventist alike. Your thoughts?
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exist at the end of the school year. Yes, the school year is over already, but there they are continuing. The school is not closing down. One of my best friends goes there. What happened is they lost accreditation. So they had to connect with WAU. The process is still non-binding yet but they have an agreement with them to make AUC a satellite campus of WAU. This will still be a while and AUC might not officially become WAU for a year or more. So, in reality it's still non-historic. At this point, I could careless. I put my more than two cents into this article with the map and dots and other things I added. I don't care for this turn, but that's the beauty of
Knowledge, I can just move on to another article. Have fun.
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exist at the end of this school year (or has this school year already ended?). The only two classifications that I made up was the "Canadian" and "Unaccredited." Canadian because
Carnegie foundation does not list schools outside the U.S., unaccredited because they don't list those types either. I guess I don't agree that it would be confusing to a non-Adventist. In fact, the classifications were made by
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Sorry to make things complicated, yet again, but are
Kettering College and Florida Hospital College NAD? I was under the impression they would be run under the auspices of their respective hospitals which would put them under Union/Conference control. Nice work on the Andrews/Loma Linda grouping. :-)
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While that looks good and all. I think it would be confusing to non-Adventist. They would think the other
Universities like Southern Adventist University and Walla Walla University are not "National." I also don't appreciate the "Historic" category. Yes, AUC is the oldest, but it still is active and
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Hartland, Ouachita Hills, Griggs, or the Mexican Universities (as mentioned
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Adventist University is considered a college, not university, by the Carnegie foundation, I used their classifications (which is also the classifications that US News and Washington Monthly uses when they rank schools). Same for SWAU. I listed AUC as historical because they will cease to
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Carnegie lists SAU as, it does offer Masters Degrees. I think that listing it otherwise would be false, again, even if Carnegie doesn't list it that way. But that's just my option since I attend there. Another thing, AUC is not ceasing to
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I think if a College is run by Seventh-day Adventists with the intention of working with the Adventist church they should be counted as Adventist Colleges. Looking at Hartland, there really isn't much way you could NOT consider it an Adventist institution.. comments?
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