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The coins are interesting, but they seem to be aesthetically off when viewed in that sort of box. I do feel like an abstract icon representing a coin with a currency sign in it (such as the old one) is better here, and the dollar is geniunely different from other currencies due to its role in
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That last part though does leak into WP:NPOV, because in news over the past year or so, that status may be changing and contested by various countries. And the bias of
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days bending to social media format and its consequences, which the consensus of people across aisles find to be a concerning issue. Wiki should not feel even aesthetically like you're browsing Reddit, Pinterest, or some AI-generated site. And this applies even to a template symbol.
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The last clause doesn't make sense. There is no international symbol for money that is neutral, because there is no international currency (besides maybe precious metals, which coins as now replace the dollar symbol in the template are often made
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That's untrue, un-inclusive (in both senses of social and disability), and even arguably treads upon violating NPOV. You didn't even mention the dark mode point... It is bothersome to not just visually impaired people but
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ain't used just for the US dollar. Besides, people have long since moved away from coins, if you want to argue about universality. Accessibility is an issue, yes, but not remotely a challenging one to solve.
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Couldn't the same be said for the pound sign though we don't need to use and country's money, the generic coin we now have seems better.
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I think this is superior, and kept procrastinating this proposal but it's bugged me enough. I hope this replaces the black dollar sign!
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