785:"Achaemenid Empire" is former nation which encompassed several modern nations in what now is the Middle East. The term is universally used on the anglophone world (thus en.wiki). If a native name should be put in the article, it should be its Old Persian name - in fact its original name - rather than its New Persian name which have a meaning only for those who speaks New Persian; that's why such an addition is pointless. It's the same as putting the modern Italian name in Roman Empire article as it is for every long-defunct nations such as Babylonia, Ancient Egypt, Neo-Assyria, Sassanid Empire etc. If a name is needed here besides the one in the title, that's the Latin, Akkadian, Ancient Egyptian, Aramaic and Middle Persian respectively.
738:- There are too many other counterexamples of your claim). However, you need to consider that when you are speaking English, you should say "Persian" instead of "Farsi", it is similar to other languages: when you are speaking Persian, you say "Engelisi" not "English". As a result, when you speak in Persian, if you say "English" instead of "Engelisi" is wrong and strange e.g. consider somebody tells you: "Can you speak Engelisi?! that this is like that you say: "Can you speak Farsi?!" Both are exactly similar and also wrong! Because, you are speaking "English" not "Persian". If you have any other "problem" with Persian language, do not hesitate to ask me.
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Hello, I reverted your recents additions of the Farsi names for
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and linked pages. Take a look at the template on the left hand side of the menu bar above the edit field when you are editing an article, it will help. Always give page numbers for books, and remember snippets are rarely enough as the next sentence that isn't in the snippet may say "But that's all
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The reason is clear, just it needs a little thinking. Because, I wouldn't like "common people" who usually don't study (that means reading wikipedia instead of book) remain illiterate. I'll do my best, however, the tragedy and problem is that it is editable by another "common people" with "low
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Italian name: quite pointless, also considering that the interlinks on the left columns also give the possibility of reading the corresponding article in other languages, including Farsi. I hope you understand the reason for my revert.
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British empire! You do not disagree when I say "British" empire?! because, for example Indians in India as a part of this empire are not truly British! ha? Isn't it?
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