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Your remarks on the lead are beginning to sound like mine. My intent could be summarize here. It is not to create a promotional piece but a NPOV encyclopedic piece. I would be seconding your suggestion. MoS is not applied well. Many of my admonishions are based on that. My view on Pseudo are well
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Well, yes. The only alternative is to point out that Witzel accuses
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Thanks for the heads-up. I haven't had ti me to do much more than skim the first page, but so far it has all the earmarks of a hatchet-job, aimed at Griot while pretending higher motivations, on behalf of the pesty sister of the reporter -- the only surprise for me, really, is that the reporter
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I apologise if this message seems impersonal, but with over 130 members in the category, leaving a personal message for each of you might not have been feasible, and I feel this is important enough to violate social norms a bit. I hope that's OK. Thanks for your time and consideration, and best
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and I, and others, first developed this category well over a year ago, we visualized it as a simple idea. A low hassle, low bureaucracy process. We also visualized it as a process that people would come to trust, in fact as a way of increasing trust in those admins who chose to subscribe to the
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Thanks for finding the time to help with this. The additional user account used entirely for sandboxes gives some insight into Doug's absence and sudden reemergence with this flood of new material. My AfD is getting a cool reception, but at least some good editors will discover from it some
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But do something. If you have not already, I urge you to make your process more concrete, now, while there is no pressure and you can think clearly about what you want. Do it now rather than later, during a recall when folk may not react well to perceived changes in process or commitment.
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article concerning the content dispute in the first six words of the article. You have been named as a party and your participation would be appreciated. I believe this is the best approach to an amicable resolution of the dispute. Please indicate your agreement
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that the admin being recalled was trying to change the rules, avoid the process, or in other ways somehow go back on their word. This is bad. It's bad for you the admin, bad for the trust in the process, and bad for the community as a whole.
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I just added my response to Kurykh on Griot's talk page again and Griot immediately deleted it again calling it vandalism. He also removed Kurykh's comment asking about if I was ok with this as well. You see this is the game he plays.
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I object to any display of the comments I made that will have them taken out of context. Either display the comments within the context of the actual short conversation where I was RESPONDING to Griot's snide taunting question of if I
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Thanks for the message on my talk page. I think the message you left should help, but if you could also do a 1 sec block that should catch anyone who goes to my block log and misses your message on my talk page. Regards.
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of the Waterboarding article? There is a numbering system there. Editors have been adding articles in several other places, but I believe the "Definitions" page is the most logical place to put them.
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