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accommodate without going into a massive amount of complexity. Complexity that would make it just easier to add the correct information to the article itself directly. Information about "colours" and design standards belongs in a different article anyway. Most of this is to do with decorative colour schemes not about the physical characteristics of the buildings. The various comments about "future development" is misleading as this gives a sense that something is planned, when in most cases the guide being referenced is to guide future development if it happens.--
1869: 283: 3782:) - what you are adding is often not mentioned in the main text at all. Virtually all of these articles have a section for history, most also have a section for design or description - these are where we describe who designed the station, when and in what style. One thing that we do not do is put little coloured squares into article text, lead section or otherwise. You also meed to consider how important it is to specify the colour scheme, some of this is outright trivia. 3055:- save for one original station buildings which is a private residence, the original station was completely rebuilt in the 1930s for the Northern Heights extension. The original station is gone and the replacement above ground platforms have been disused since the 1950s. The station that people use today is below ground and has minimal above ground buildings, nothing like what was described in the template. 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your reversions of my work are doing anything other than destroying well-researched information. I thought the idea was that editors co-operated, not just reverted other peoples additions and then call them "disruptive". I feel really hurt by this accusation as I've put many hours of work into this.
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No please stop trying to make all of the stations fit a set of "types". There are far more than "21 styles of station building" and many of the stations have multiple phases of development and redevelopment that means that parts belong to different architectural periods, that a simple template cannot
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as Leslie Green. Again it doesn't fit this type very well. The original station building was designed by Green, but, since the station was given escalators in the 1930s, it hasn't been used by the station at all. The subway entrances nearer to the Hyde Park Corner are not by Green, the subway ticket
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I thought I was doing the correct thing. All my edits have been well intention and followed all the rules about providing references and so forth. I don't get that adding information from a properly-referenced free, government source about station architecture is "disruptive". I don't see that
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type. It isn't. It was built originally, as Post Office, by the CLR, but the station building was demolished a rebuilt in the 1930s and demolished completely and replaced with subway entrances in the 1970s (I think). There is nothing below ground of the original CLR station design. as the platforms
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Thanks. I'm just making sure that the vast majority of tube stations have the relevant information that is supplied in the TfL-funded TfL-published document I'm linking to. I agree that there are disagreements as you pointed out, but my source is a good one, but clearly not without some level of
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I don't think it is going to be possible to make a set of options that give sufficient detail to the information to cover the whole system and some of the statements in the design idiom booklet are so general as to be useless. Much of the colour scheme information relates to platform signage rather
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Sorry, my understanding is that the rule means that you don't store the text of just one article in a template, as a way of hiding it from other editors. To use a template that works on several hundred pages, as TfLstyle is perfectly acceptable. There is no worry of a one-to-one relationship
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The diagram illustrates the current state of the project. Although I now partly understand your changes I don't feel that leaving the two planned stations "open" and prematurely "closing" Watford Met is a solution. In my opinion the diagram is better as it is until the line opens and Watford Met
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missing information. I'm keen for these to be pointed out as there are several planning applications in/near tube stations which take "Design Idiom" as the gospel truth. I'm just going to assume here that you've got references that show your assertions about East Finchley, and so forth.
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Just because TfL have identified these types, does not mean they are correct. It may seem to be an authoritative source, but clearly the interpretations that you are making for which stations fit which types are wrong - as identified above already. A couple of examples using the
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OK, I have loaded the information from the TfL document as best I can. If there are stations that are wrong, fine. I've copied the list of stations into the tempate talk file Template:TfLstyle/doc for ease of my checking
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after we have had a merge discussion. It would be interesting what you would say to the merge and the delete discussion. And possibly it could help to contact other people that they should help also. )-: Merry Xmas
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Makes sense, I was hoping to code in the station types from the list of 20 architechutal types and hoped that others might refine the work. I was taking the TfL document as a good reference for these.
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Sorry. I'm out of here. I don't need this attitude when I'm just trying to help. All I was trying to do was add something useful to Knowledge. I think I know why I stopped posting before.
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as the Overground has recently expanded. Could you add the new lines? Would be nice to bring it up to date - it is a great concept. Thanks.
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