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Rather than PROD'ding a dozen album articles, please consider changing them to
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I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of
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I came to leave you a message and found that I already did months ago. Instead of PRODding albums, please consider redirecting them to the artist's article. I just did that with about 5 or 6 articles you PROD'd and there are more than will receive that treatment tomorrow. It would be easier if you
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I'll just add to this message instead of starting a new section on your talk page since it is also about your PROD work. I just wanted to say that I appreciate you PROD'ding small groups of articles at different times over the 24 hour clock. Different administrators "patrol" the PROD list at
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Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Knowledge. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.
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before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at
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