User talk:Georgewilliamherbert/Archives/2010/May

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Knowledge policy considers blogs by UK journalist which appear on their paper's web site as reliable sources. This is the clear and simple meaning of the footnote I have referred you to. Should you doubt that, I suggest you open a discussion thread at RSN. As to "intentionally using a lousy source" in order to bait Chris, I wonder how that would be possible, seeing as he was using that very source before I started editing that page. Could it be that he was "intentionally using a lousy source" in order to bait others? Have you left a similar notice on his page, seeing as you have seen this type of behavior "used by both sides"? Is there some previous relationship between you and Chris that you would like to disclose, before I go digging it up in Talk page histories?

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yours is particularly troubling considering the fact that this whole case started with the user ChrisO partaking in administrative actions. Is there a reason you did not take any action against him? The situation becomes even more troubling when we see that ChrisO unilaterally edited the wording of the ARBPIA template. Is this not an administrative action that warranted further punishment by you? And I can go on even further. Even after the discussion on the talk page of ARBPIA has drawn opposition to ChrisO's unilateral change, and the template has been restored to its admin-only wording, ChrisO has continued today to issue warnings and log them to users with whom he is involved as a form of intimidation.

1327:)'s user page, using the same real name he's claiming now (and I'm willing to guess that the email sent to unblock-en-l was from his military address, confirming the name). He was blocked last year for claiming a compromised account after some aggressive vandalism to my userpages. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a violation of our sockpuppetry policies or not... could you look into the situation? To be honest, I'm willing to forgive and forget, since he has thus far not bothered me with this new account, but I would like this to be on record in case he begins harassing me again. Ironically enough, the confusion with 2819:. But I don't want to make this about ChrisO. I think it's fair to say that Breein was acting in good faith, that he saw someone acting contrary to a long-standing template, someone who had a vested interest in handing out one-sided warnings, and reverted. That is not -- absolutely not -- reason to block, let alone without warning. Indeed, it could be reasonably argued that Breein's actions were appropriate. Maybe the consensus is/would be/should be that non-admins shouldn't do what Breein did, but a block is a last resort. You, frankly, used it as a first resort. 1670:. I didn't see the language banners on your page and cannot say if you know Russian but at least you can see my last comment on the board of RS which was not (couldn't be) opposed. Those media spread the info of "recognition" (BTW for readers in Azerbaijan it means some other recognition, than for us). Those are clearly fake claims on which we cannot base wiki. TO it agreed even the editors that are in the "process", telling "we never said it was a recognition"(though in the beginning they did) but the sources present it that way. 2719:, at the time that you made that reversion and issued the warning (November 19, 2008), there was actually no specification that the template was only effective if given by an administrator. Yet you still felt the need to enforce the (then non-existent) rule. But yesterday, when the rule was actually in place, you allowed it to be broken and in fact encouraged it to be broken by punishing me for pointing out that ChrisO was violating it. If you have an explanation for this, that would be just great. 427: 31: 2693:

no section in the ARBPIA arbcom case decision which states that non-adminstrators may not issue notifications of the ARBPIA specific restrictions." Therefore, according to you, I was wrong to inform users that ChrisO's warning was ineffective and to undo his logging of the notifications. As you also know, the final line of the ARBPIA template reads "This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged here", contradicting what you said above.

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called block explanation when you said my block had significant administrative support, which was not even close to the real situation, and then on AN/I, when you said I removed block message from my talk page, which I never did. You've never bothered to apologize for those lies. Tonight's block of an editor reminded me of your conduct in my case. I looked at blocking policy, and found this:

1619:) and will copy the new text over when protection is lifted. Hopefully it will move things forward a bit. However, I expect that a handful of editors will continue to push for the inclusion of problematic material, and this may cause further problems. I'd be grateful if you could continue to monitor the article and, where necessary, take action to resolve any problematic editing. -- 2358:

and philosophers of science aren't necessarily informed specially about cosmology. There is a steady stream of other scientists working "around the fringes" of many scientific disciplines. When this is adopted by the discipline in some useful way it's integrative or interdisciplinary. When it's ignored, it is usually because it's not useful fringeist ideas.

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any specific evidence in hand for that in your case here, but I have seen exactly that tactic used by both sides of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict here on Knowledge within the last few months. Again - I am AGFing here, but this is an area where misbehavior is rampant and intentional baiting is common.

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When I have seen ChrisO leave the notification it's been with people who deserved to be notified, based on recent edits. However, if you believe he's using it improperly as some sort of stick to hit people with based on his personal opinions on the issue, that's a valid complaint you can take to ANI

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Breein1007 is singularly unsuitable for administrative actions as he has extremely poor neutrality and judgement regarding policy. If he keeps trying to do them he'll end up indefinitely blocked. I have told him this a bunch of times, he comes back doing them again. Anyone can notify a noticeboard

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The issue at hand is whether the initial behavior was appropriate or inappropriate. In my opinion, as an uninvolved administrator, the initial inclusion of seriously derogatory material sourced to a blog was inappropriate, and edit warring over reincluding it after removal was doubly inappropriate.

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Sources matter. Going off tertiary sources, particularly ones as weak as blogs, for negative information in BLPs is a highly questionable action. It's particularly indefensible when you could easily have gone and referenced the actual underlying article at any time. He was right to revert what you

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I am also requesting an explanation of this: "I have warned Breein1007 repeatedly not to take administrative actions themselves". I do not recall any warnings from you regarding taking "administrative" actions. I am not an admin, and therefore I do not take any administrative actions. This phrase of

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As you know, you blocked me for 24 hours for "disrupting AE" and "interfering with AE warnings" and topic banned me from "administrative reversals or warnings" (whatever that is supposed to mean) because I have repeatedly done "horrible things" and "gotten policy wrong". You explained that "There is

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are for. Publication in "a scientific venue" doesn't mean that a particular publication is relevant to a particular discipline. Chemists aren't necessarily informed in any special way about population genetics; biologists not necessarily informed specially about statistics and applied mathematics,

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I'm a bit shocked by the results of the 3RR/N report that I posted. Whereas four different editors have reinserted the material in question (while only 2 have been attempting to remove it) you claim that there is a "clear consensus that the material doesn't belong". How in the world did you come to

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I'm pretty sure pretending to be an admin is a serious issue. ARBPIA is clear: the notification is only effective if given by an admin and logged. ChrisO is not an admin. He has no right to be taking admin actions. I previously pointed this out to him a while ago, but he continued doing it today. He

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Furthermore, I am requesting clarification of "Leaving warnings or notices is an administrative action". Can you please show me the appropriate documentation identifying this policy on Knowledge? I was under the impression that warnings and notices are tools available to both admins and users. If I

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The article talk page and AE are appropriate venues for wider discussion of whether the claims are suitable for Knowledge or not, again with the note that we are neither a scandal rag nor a whitewash. You all can play nicely, within the rules at all times, or get sanctioned. The BLP issues ChrisO

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If one was inclined to interpret the sequence of events as your having had malign intent, one could ascribe events to a successful attempt to bait ChrisO into misbehavior by intentionally using a lousy source for highly negative material, and then introducing the more reliable source. I don't have

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I don't enjoy doing this; he contributes well a good part of the time. But he's also insanely disruptive at times, about this topic, and he's just not getting it about not doing the disruptive things. He's approaching long term blockable. I would much rather divert his course with a 24 hr block

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I want it just for your info. The first time the edits made by those involved in reverting with Divot it was that the house of reps has recognised, because that was what was in Azeri media. Even from the scanned doc it is obvious, that it's of commemoration. Now what those editors do, is bring the

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Sources for the 28 vs. 2 claim: even if we disallow the JC as a source, the 'sentenced 28 to death' claim originates with Yediot, Israel's largest newspaper, and a reliable source. we can insert the material back into the article sourcing it to Yediot, or The Atlantic, or the Jerusalem Post, or to

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Just wanted to congratulate Audley for an impressive display in the Prizefighter tournament. His patience in the final to wait for that destructive knock out punch was impressive to see. Following the win I went onto wikipedia to read about what Audley had planned for the future and to read on his

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Tonight an editor was blocked for disruption with no specific differences of that so called disruption provided. It reminded to me what you've done to me with two highly unfair blocks for so called "disruption". Not only you provided no difference of so called "disruption", but you lied in your so

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If a solid consensus evolves that only admins should leave those warnings then I'll enforce that wrt ChrisO, as will any other admin. I know it's being actively discussed (haven't checked that conversation for a day or two). I am not aware of any warning he left that admins haven't supported on

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Funny how your censorship of criticism of the Israel-first/anti-Arab trolls on that page demonstrates PRECISELY the point my comments made. I would advise that you take a long look, first in the mirror to be sure that there is no racism inside your soul and no belief that one particular state and

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rule we apply elsewhere. Community bans and community edit restrictions require a minimum run of 24 hrs before an uninvolved admin can close them. There was a feeling that with a topic this important, we shouldn't cut discussion off until enough time passed to ensure that the consensus is wide

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The question of whether the material, even reliably sourced, is appropriate, a violation of BLP despite the sourcing, possibly libelous, and whether certain editors involved are violating the Israeli/Palestinian Arbcom case restrictions by the ongoing behavior are a wider and more complex issue,

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I'm sorry for the late reply in regard to Audley Harrison, I was unaware of your response in regards to my relationship with Audley. I am not related to Audley Harrison or his team in any way. I am supporter of his and have written emails to his office about the inaccuracies I found on Knowledge

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I also, as a reasonably expert amateur, understand both the topic areas of cosmology and philosophy of science. The materials you're seeking to include clearly is philosophy of science (at best; it's fringe-ish for even that, though you're correct that it was published in those venues) and not

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Come on, George - you are embarrassing yourself with comments like "There is no sign that the blog in question was both by a professional writer and subject to full editorial review." One click on the author's name would have shown you that Miriam Shaviv is the Foreign Editor of the UK's Jewish

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Possibly my last post here, as this is getting tiresome: The UK's Press Complaints Commission is highly relevant to Knowledge standards, otherwise it would not be included in a wikipedia policy page. Since you seem to not understand the significance of that footnote, I'll spell it out for you:

1994:(1) There is precedent of non-admins notifying editors of the ARBPIA sanctions. (2) Once a person hears something, it cannot be "unheard", so it's pointless to tell somebody she/he can ignore the ARBPIA sanctions. (3) I left messages at the three editors' Talk pages and logged the notices. — 2234:

Hi there. We haven't interacted very much (at all?). I just wanted to tell you thanks for asking the IP to leave me alone. These dramahz have again convinced me that article space editing is what makes me happy on WP... the rest is stressful! In any case, thanks for taking the time.

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The last line in the template was not supported by the actual Arbcom finding; it was inserted afterwards by another administrator, and does not have the force of an official arbcom decision per se. It was intended to avoid willy nilly normal editors blanketing each other with the

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The positive press Audley received after his performance was in contrast to some of the negative press he has received in the past. One journalist, who has been very critical of Audley in the past, praised Audley and called him brave and courageous, so this was highlighted.

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Turian is making accusations without any kind of proof that impugn my name and I don't see why they should be allowed to remain. My attempt to reply to the accusation was removed and he won't let me remove the accusation either. Can you advise on what I should do here?

1176:. If this continues, do you think it's worth an SPI on the above user, or it's just a random new user trying to stir up trouble? Discussion has finally started on the page, I'd hate for random trolling to push things off the rails. Thanks again for your help. 770:

Audley was unbeaten in 17 fights when his deal with the BBC ended in 2004, so the information posted was factually incorrect as the BBC deal did not end due to losses to Williams and Guinn.; In fact Danny Williams contest took place on ITV in December 2005.

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I am interested to see what you have to say for yourself in regards to the whole situation of the involved non-admin (actually, former admin who was desysoped) ChrisO issuing notifications to users with whom he was in conflict as a form of intimidation.

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I keep telling them to take it to an uninvolved admin or a noticeboard. Apparently they aren't listening to that. On top of the long string of prior incidents, this was effectively knowing and intentional disruption. That's the reason for the block.

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I've just enacted a ban on Frei Hans from ANI as it was straightforward (and was starting to catch dust); could you update the block log to reflect the community ban? You might also want to add an extra note on the talk for anything I missed. Cheers,

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Again - I am not making a conclusion regarding the ultimate inclusion in the article or currently available sources. What I am saying is that you edit warred to insert negative material into a biographical article using a source which didn't meet

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Breein1007 has been warned repeatedly not to undertake administrative like actions themselves in this area, as they have demonstrated extremely poor judgement regarding what to do and when to do it, with respect to neutrality and understanding

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ChrisO is not currently an administrator but he was, and his judgement is not seriously flawed. He clearly has an opinion and some bias on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but we aren't restricting the notification to only uninvolved

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national and quite biased media (I can bring you assesments by international organisations that the media is totally unfree there) as a 2nd source (the document is the 1st source) as a proof. Have a look at the discussion of RS board:

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George, why on earth did you block Breein? Couldn't you just have said "dont do this"? This takes silliness to a new level, "interfering with arbitration warnings" is a blockable offense, actually a blockable without warning offense.

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I think it would be a good idea for notifications to be made by admins only, as it will tend to reduce drama. Failing that, I think editors should at least be in very good standing before handing out those notifications.

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I believe the changes are fair and balanced and reflect correct information. I do hope you concur with my comments. I sent the below email to Audley’s Office last year, but decided to continue to monitor his page myself.

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Well, if you've read the article's talk page I won't rehash it all. But, then again, if you've read the article's talk page why did you say that I'm the "only person actively defending the material"; Gandalf61 has also

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and advised each of the notified editors that they can ignore the notifications. This is seriously not on. I'd be grateful if you could have a word with Breein1007, as he doesn't seem to be inclined to listen to me. --

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In both cases it is impossible to place a title "Gulf of Mexico Oil Disaster" (for the whole page in the case of the "Deepwater Horizons" article, and for the section on the same topic on the "BP" corporate page).

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even asked another admin to notify the other editor, the admin didn't do it, so ChrisO decided to do it himself. He clearly isn't listening to me. I expect an admin to tell him that this is unacceptable.

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claims. I am glad that you at least agree that Yediot as a source is acceptable - perhaps you'd like to have a word with Chris about it, as he keeps removing the material sourced to it from the article.

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The Press Complaints Commission is not relevant to Knowledge standards. Articles on newspaper / news magazine sites are articles. Blogs are blogs. Blogs on newspaper / news magazine websites are

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I know that the micro nation of Virtexa is not very popular, yet it was only created today May 19, 2010. I hope you sincerely consider letting my edit to the list of micronations page stay there.

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Hi. I just boxed-up that time-suck of a thread. As I see it, none of it was going to go anywhere. I'll be dipping an oar into those articles and will read the talk pages. See you there, Cheers,

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If others feel that ChrisO's use is improper (or if you convince me) we can ask him or tell him not to notify people anymore himself, and have him ask an uninvolved admin to do so after review.

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is still discussing can be discussed without admin authority intervention. Further abusive behavior or behavior against policy will be watched extremely closely and may result in sanctions.

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Audley had surgery after his contest with Sprott, so his statement made after the fight about the injury has substance. Hence, I inserted information from an article concerning his operation.

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Do you not think it would be wise to attempt to solve such a trivial problem by saying something instead of blocking somebody? Whatever, Ill get back to laughing at this whole thing, cheers.

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I'm curious (this is not specifically in connection with the ANobody discussion). Is there such a policy and could you point me to where I can find a description of this policy? Regards. --

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I read both the article talk page and the AN3 report discussion; you seem to be the only person actively defending the material as appropriate for the article, and there are many critics.

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He should not have been unblocked, he should resign, my loved ones want to know why such an editor is allowed to edit here. He should resign, retire. I will never drop the stick for him.

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Looks good. The List of Banned Users entry you did is perhaps a little abrupt but it's ok for a first draft for sure. I've updated the block message to note the ban effective today.

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for review. I don't see that, but I don't reject the possibility that it may be there. Making a report is fine; getting more independent editors and admins to review that is fine.

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Admin judgement is that his mistakes were not worthy of a permanent block. You can file a User Conduct RFC or a community ban proposal at ANI if you object to that. But violating

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I am asking you to explain yourself considering the fact that the template is perfectly clear in its wording, and considering the fact that ChrisO is clearly not an admin.

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It was agreed in previous talks that Fraudley would be removed from Infobox and Nickname would be its own subject. This was changed, so I removed it once more from Infobox.

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I shouldn't comment on the ID thing, but I'd AGF that the new account is a new account after the prior one was compromised, and that he wasn't the person behind that abuse.

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Your intention to focus on me and not MF is a ridiculous joke. Please focus your attention on someone who has broken many rules within the past few hours, and not on me. –

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or an admin; that puts the decision of whether an actual violation of policy occurred in someone else's hands. If the notifier didn't have a good case no harm is done.

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I look forward to hearing back from you, because I think you deserve the opportunity to explain your actions before the community is given the task of investigating.

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No prob on the unblock. I believe the appropriate exit criteria (understood, won't do it again) were fulfilled and their subsequent actions were in line with that.

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I could have warned him instead. But I've already warned him about similar types of things, a bunch, and he's obviously ignored the warnings as he keeps doing them.

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were posting - the burden of proof is not on him to find out if another more reliable source supports what you were saying. The burden of proof - using clearly

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I fail to see how stating he sentenced 28 people to death, based on materiel carried by reliable sources, is "pushing the envelope". Perhaps you can elaborate.

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I gather "something's been said" already but apparently didn't have the desired effect. If you've not already seen it, George's block notice is worth a read -

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By this, that source is acceptable. I did not use that source randomly - it is exactly the same source ChrisO used for his "sentenced 2 to death" claim - see

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if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see

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This is only for you to see the picture for the source and content. As for the conduct, considering these, I admit, that disruption was on all sides.

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I look forward to your response, but hope my edits can remain on the page, which correct the mis-information submited by the last editor on the page.

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a week ago; the article's protection is due to expire shortly. I've been working on revising and greatly expanding the article in my userspace (see

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I wasn't aware that Breein1007 had any kind of history, since I've only had dealings with him in the last few days. Thanks for sorting it out. --

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Despite the mitigating factor, the abusive behavior noted was very nearly grounds to block or topic ban you, Mother's Little Helper. I have

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But could you guys please take a look at these two articles? 1) "BP" corporate Knowledge Page and 2) "Deepwater Horizons" Knowledge page--

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Sanction discussions are normally kept open for at least 24 hours to allow time for comments from a broad selection of community members.

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Instead Knowledge readers much search for "Deepwater Horizons" in order to read anything about the current Gulf of Mexico Oil Disaster.

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page, continues to edit war to have the collapsed section of his personal attacks called "WP:XENODONTLIKEIT." In my opinion, he's being

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George, I notified three editors (including one new arrival) earlier today of the ARBPIA sanctions and logged them as required at

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As to the comments above and below - Inclusion of materials from a major newspaper's article meets the fundamental question of

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am mistaken, then there are a hell of a lot of other users partaking in administrative action, so we have a big problem.

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Editor now blocked for 31 hours, he's leaving anti-Semitic comments on Akerans' talk page and his article targets are

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In articles which fall under the Israeli/Palestinian Arbcom case discretionary sanctions it was triply inappropriate.

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as a source: You may not have read the footnote that accompanies the policy on blogs. For future reference, it reads

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To answer the edit summary meta-question first - technically yes, but under the circumstances I really don't care.

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Chronicle - a professional writer by any standard. And I see that despite me pointing out the footnote to you, you

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status. But that was not what you used as the source repeatedly. What you used as a source repeatedly was a blog.

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Hi, the comments are back. Will you delete them and take appropriate administrative actions in regards to the IP?

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I don't know all the history, but I'm also a little surprised that Breein was blocked without warning for this. —

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There is no sign that the blog in question was both by a professional writer and subject to full editorial review.

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I am sending you this message as a favour, rather than taking it immediately to the community for investigation.

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To the IP - No, you need to stop this. I will reply more on your talk page, as I just blocked you for 24 hrs.

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Mr. Pilz managed to get himself indeff'ed by the time he was done. Good job. Sigh. Some people don't get it.

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review, so I don't think he's abusing them so far (as of early yesterday, last time I checked his contribs).

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In short-- "Gulf of Mexico Oil Disaster" gets aggressively reverted out of each article over and over again.

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previous career. Unfortunately some of the information had been deleted and modified by someone on the page

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Knowledge is neither a scandal rag nor a whitewash; It's important to get it right. The process matters.

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He also, which is IMHO the most serious issue here, PRETENDS TO BE OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING WIKIPEDIA!

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Use process, don't harangue him. Asking him once to resign is one thing; again and again is not ok.

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As you're one of the three admins who responded to the earlier AN3 report concerning BLP problems on

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A number of other non-administrator editors have used the template before; that was widely accepted.

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by demanding that stay up, so I took it back to ANI because you appeared to be offline. Take care!

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If you'd used the Yediot story as the source from the start we would not be having this discussion.

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Saw that. Will verify you got the correct places and stuff, and update the block log. Thanks!

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Yes, and I can't remember exactly where it is right now. Basically, this is an exception to the

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I just wanted to come by and say "Thank You" for unblocking my account when other admins refused.

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I just wanted to let you know so that you can edit the information so that it tells the truth.

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There's quite a bit more to it than that, George. I've added a summary of the BLP problems at

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Thanks for your note. I disagree with you on several points, which I will enumerate below.

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New puzzle globe, feature for admins, Israel's "Knowledge Bill", unsourced bios declining

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Hi Admin, Will you be so dear as to delete the latest comments that are in violation of

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Of course it is; appearing immediately after the block of MLH, to continue the battle.

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Please, see the history of my Contributions and my Talk page to assure yourself.<

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I will remove the request for deletion if the file is used in an article once again.

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this warning that you gave to another editor in relation to the previous reversion

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I will attempt to locate where we stuck the rule, but it is in there somewhere.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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My apologies - been caught up in some other stuff. I will open it tonight.

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Thanks. It would be a great help if I knew where the policy was set down. --

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on that matter and left it at a warning. But your behavior was not OK.

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Here's another obvious pair of socksto be laundered, if you care to. ←

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seeking an official ArbCom ban for that user. Your input is desired.

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One final thing. Can you please be so kind as to include mention of

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PLEASE, PROTECT WIKIPEDIA FROM POLITICAL AND BUSINESS INTERESTS!!!

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I've just added a bit of background to the entry. Cheers again! :)

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Just so you'll know, I've opened a thread at ANI that mentions you.

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No problem... except that the boxes were removed by Matt57. Cheers,

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Thanks for stepping in there, one more question if you don't mind.

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Talking of ani... if possible please would you take a look at this

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reliable sources - is on those inserting the negative information.

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Please, see the history of his Talk page to assure yourself.<

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Hi George, I was wondering if you could semi-protect the article

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have not read it in full, or you would have seen the following:

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using the warning as a club to threaten people at the time.

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Stricken after reading the block notice on Breein's Talk page

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If he does something unfortunate towards you let us know...

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If you believe the bot has made an error, please turn it off

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How do I request that those aggressive reverts be stopped?

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The Timeshifter warning was a special case - he clearly

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Knowledge:Banning policy#Community bans and restrictions

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Dan O'Sullivan's Knowledge: a new community of practice?

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iPhone app update, Vector rollout for May 13, brief news

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I'm a novice in english Wiki. But as i understand, AGK

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Hello, Georgewilliamherbert. You have new messages at

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dramafest, I'm listing you as an involved party in an

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numerous other media outlets that picked up the story.

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Best of luck in the future Audley - keep the faith!!

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