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You removed a section hatnote that directed the reader to another page for further information. That is not a citation. A self reference to WP is a citation to a WP article. Also, please be careful about the citations you are applying to that article because
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Would you please tell me what you understand by a self reference to WP? A note which directs the reader to another article is not a self reference. Please explain. Also, how do you know that the
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