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documentation to support what I say, but it is probably not on the Internet. It is very easy to get bad ( and possibly false) material about Hitler on the Internet. However, newspapers and other material written by the British in the early thirties are definitely favourable to Hitler. Therefore, I can only say that any subsequnt change in this sentiment, especially written in this Century by the British is probably false, as History can be rewritten.
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The point is that there are different spellings involved. There is no way to access the movie Jedda unless you know enough about it to come in obliquely through the actor's or director's name. Try it!. go to the main page and enter 'Jedda'; you will transfer to the Saudi city, with no indication that
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Why have you deleted the disambiguation for Jedda? If you click on Jedda in the article on Robert Tudawali it now goes to the Saudi Arabian city. Robert Tudawali was an Australian aborigine; as far as I know he never left Australia and had no connection with Saudi Arabia. There is no harm in having a
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article. You don't cite the source, nor could I find anything on the net (in English!) that would support it. I've deleted it - feel free to reinstate if you can cite the source. But I would think that this question is outside the "competence" of the Union (or of the Commission, for that matter).
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jin has closed. The result was that 32 people voted to keep all individual bible verses as seperate articles, and 34 voted that they shouldn't (2 abstensions, and 3 votes for both). This is considered by standard policy not to be a consensus decision (although the closing admin stated that it was a
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Thanks. Actually, if you remove the Hitler-praising first sentence of his addition, it's actually quite factual and verifiable. However, the personal attack was completely out of place, he should not have done that. I admit to having read his comments on your talk page before reading yours on his.
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I take MAJOR exception to your restoring those fake rules. Non-canon is one thing, as rules mentioned in novels, RPGs, and other Official Printed Material are fine. OTOH, the rules you restored were MADE UP by a THIRD PARTY site, linked to at the bottom of the page. If THESE are legit, maybe we
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Hi there. I am sorry, I evidently made a mistake. I am not able to view the deleted article's history to try to explain myself and it is too long ago for me to remember. However, the two VfDs were brought by the same (redlink) editor, so perhaps I confused myself by looking at the VfDs' histories
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Thirdly, the subject has now been put to a survey, so that it may remain open until there is a clear consensus for what appears to be a difficult issue to resolve. You may wish to take part in this survey, and record a similar vote to the one you made at the VFD there. The survey is available at
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I am rather new to Knowledge. However, I do know something about History. I am now being accused of "personal attacks" even though everything I write is being reversed. Udayiti does not change the POV that he mentions, simply deletes everything. That means that I cannot say anything. I do have
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SimonP (the creator of the 100 or so gospel verse articles) has tried to claim that the votes for the "only notable verses" section would include most of the 30,000 verses of the bible because he sees them as notable. To avoid such a POV twisting of the votes, I have added a new section -
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Heh, no, the article was created by an Englishman, not an Estonian. I chose to use the spelling "R-Kiosk" as that is the name the company gives itself on the English version of its website, and as this is the English language Knowledge, I thought it was correct to use it.
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I wasn't too sure about the quotes at the beginning either... although I think the BBC one possibly contextualises .. stuff. Have you got any feelings on the neutrality of the rest of the article? Personally I think it reads like a flyer, but I always hate my own writings.
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The way it originally read sounded like it was written by an Estonian. I am not sure of the official naming policy in Knowledge, but I think this article should reflect the native name, especially considering there are no R-Kioskis in English-speaking countries.
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Yes, they are POV too. But if you remove them, and stick to the facts that Hitler fought against overwhelming odds and was given an award for bravery, then it's factual. The article should document what Hitler did, not whether what Hitler did was good or bad.
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By typing "Jedda" in the search box, you get to the Saudi city, with the disambig link I added. Clicking on the disambig link reveals the existence of the movie. But maybe I could change the main Jeddah article into a disambig page and have the Saudi city at
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I was testing endless redirection. I wanted to know how Wiki handled it. Ah,I just realized that I made the mistake of putting them on Knowledge. I must have switched browser windows by accident or so, because I thought I created them on
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no problem, this appears to be a user who continually keeps spamming this same sort of stuff everywhere around, as an IP and using usernames, if you notice anymore stuff like this please let me or another admin know so we can get it.
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Yes it was added by me. There really was a mention in the Finnish media that an EU directive says Tampere is too scarcely populated to be a city. Whether the directive was ever accepted (or existed in the first place), I don't know.
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tells me that they have such a place (and it would really be very very odd if a football slub from Vaasa played their home matches in Helsinki). By the way, I didn't know there was a Hietalahti in Helsinki when I wrote the stub. -
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Because there is mother together with the baby for 24 hours, she is possible to attend it almost in the first time strike of the baby of the betrayal, walking for the first time, and the first time crawl.
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Thanks for fixing the vandalism on my user page. Price you pay for participating in VFD, I guess. Another person who can't figure out the difference between articles and user pages, I guessing?Β :) --
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i see that you created it yourself...i don't understand why you changed it. i like to have fun too(obviously right now im bored so im doing this), but this site isn't meant to be a joke.
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say that. I was just confused, because Finns generally call them "Lontoon rae", which is grammatically correct Finnish for "drops of London". "Lontoo rae" is technically ungrammatical.
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Hmm, this sounds interesting. I don't think I'd be able to create or maintain one either, but if such a portal is created anyway, I am certainly interested in contributing to it.
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was such a significant and unique Rosa story that it had to be mentioned. BTW - I tried to upload my photo of Rosa to the Swedish Wiki, but couldn't do it. Care to help there? --
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article. I reverted it as POV, and he contacted me, saying I shouldn't have. I told him about NPOV, and he responded by deleting referenced facts from the article and by posting
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I also think it reads like a flyer. I'll have to read it again more carefully to check whether it violates NPOV. The quotes at the beginning just stood out immediately.
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I seriously was a bit shocked when I first read your comment on my talk page. But I really appreciate the nomination...good luck on yours as well!
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Re: an edit on the Fat Tony page. I removed some quotes, and intended to add a Wikiquote box. I ran into some problems, which I have brought up at
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Hi! Since you seem to be one of the most active Finnish contributors round here, I'd like to know your opinion as to whether we should have a
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should solicit Trek boards for anyone who wants to make stuff up and post it in Knowledge? Maybe I'll go make up my own rules now...--
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was recently added, 'A vast minority', and it seems that your vote probably would have gone there had it been there when you voted.
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Thanks! Let me know if he responds. I've half a mind to buy an asteroid guide to see if it mentions anything about 13335 Tobiaswolf.
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Either your hoax has been rumbled - or we are missing something, either way perhaps you'd like to swing by and explain yourself. --
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I agree totally with JIP, but I'd just like to add that if you have the sources at your disposal, then it will be easy for you to
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on my talk page. Since then, I've been trying to reason with him, and I think we're approaching mutual understanding by now. -
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Thanks, my guess is that it was probably a typo. I'll fix it and add it in an "Errors and omissions" column for next week's
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Sorry, I did not know they were made up by a third party site. I thought they were officially licensed. I'll go delete them.
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I will ask you for an important mission of sending the development episode of the camera phone to the sphere in English.
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I contributed the episode at the will of me while thinking that not the instruction of the company but it was my fate.
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No, it's not what I'm doing. See my comments on Leistung's talk page to see what I am doing. Leistung originally added
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By "personal attacks" I only meant your comment on Ulayiti's talk page, seen from the link provided by Ulayiti above:
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The description of the above-mentioned is a significance of existence of the E-mail function of the camera phone.
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That's fine. We've got a redirect in place, so whichever spelling someone uses, it'll go to the same article. --
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Thanks for putting in the wikilink - I was not aware of the page, nor did I search for it... I just thought that
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I think 'courageously' and 'selflessly' are also very POV. And apparently I wasn't the only one to do so, since
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VfD debate. I would appreciate anything (facts, comments, etc.) you can give me about the whole incident. See
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You are a wiki admin and I need your help. Can you explain about this changes to my page? He is flooding page
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I'm editing my own talk page to show that my signature has been changed to add a direct link to my user page.
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Carrying with the camera phone enables baby's first scene and the present is enabled from mother to father.
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I am not a wiki admin. Therefore I can't do much more to the page than you can. But I'll have a look anyway.
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It is possible to use it by starting the camera momentarily. because of all carrying of the camera phone.
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I do not think that there is right meddling said by you because it is free to acquire the account.
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this is news to me. Either it's not named after me, or the dufuses mis-spelled my name, as you noted
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Because my explanation was insufficient, there is lack in the first half of your description.
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Thanks! I've now voted in the "no individual verses should have their own articles" category.
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That's strange, because I've got a bag in the cupboard at the moment, and it definitely says
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However, it is rare that Most fathers can attend the scene by working outside in daytime.
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I think that it corrected the words in which it was pointed out that it advertised.
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Myself. The reason for the weird title is that I have nominated myself once before.
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Thanks, dude! Thought I'd deleted that, and I never would've noticed it on my own.
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Apparently there's a Hietalahti in Vaasa too. They list it as their home stadium
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article. If we should use native spellings, then this article should be called
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Sorry, I was confused because, for a little while, it was a blank RfA page.
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The entire page is a joke, right from the start. If you want you can add an
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I have deleted it because I have already created a disambiguation page at
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with under-18 langauge all time and I don't know what to do 70.52.6.147
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disambiguation for Jeddah, but why can't we have one for Jedda as well?
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You seem to be a good person. Rational correspondence is hoped for.
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The content that I described is true upon one's word to the god.
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This means that it was indeed named after some guy named Tobias
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It is amusing that you erase the fact because you do not know.
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Firstly let me say that I am sorry to have to bother you.
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Thanks! I've voted on the "very small minority" section.
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Thank you for correction and believing my word. But ...
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If I've done the diffs correctly, you added that to the
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I think that the latter half is correctly transmitted.
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Following our brief conversation on the naming of the
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Mother can also share happy impression with father.
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to ask him if anyone ever named an asteroid for him.
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You're welcome to contribute.Β :) - 890:the Australian movie article exists. 776:Hmm, the correct Finnish spelling is 1089:reverted the same edit before me. - 1247:----- 06:31, August 30, 2005 (UTC) 246:template on it to have it deleted. 112:Nearest reference I could find was 23: 24: 1469: 1400:) 17:20, September 2, 2005 (UTC) 703:I'm writing an article about the 1438:) 18:18, September 2, 2005 (UTC) 1003:OK, thanks for the explanation. 352:, which seems definitive to me. 49:"Tampere is not a city", says EU 1460:06:31, September 4, 2005 (UTC) 1281:Thanks. 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Index

User talk:JIP
Janke
Talk
16:27, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Tampere
Red King
21:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
User:84.248.94.151
Janke
Talk
22:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk
05:32, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
EU Urban Audit
Red King
13:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Knowledge:Bible verses
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18:16, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk
08:18, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

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00:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk
04:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Osu8907

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