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just makes the list incomplete. The real solution would be to leave the film in the list so that the users have the information they need and request or write the film's article later. What you have done is to impoverish the list for the sake of a sense of "ordnung". In fact the decision to only include films in the list which have an article is not yours to make. Please put back all the edits that have contributed their time and effort to improving the list. If the films don't have an article then either request it or write it yourself and lets all keep trying to add to the encyclopedia rather than destructively edit and providing incomplete information.
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Hi Just a quick note to ask why my contribution was removed. I know that you stated that this list was only for those films that had an entry in
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The article has been on my watchlist for a while, since I was planning on rewatching the series (and re-reading the novels) and thought I might spruce it up. I still may, but I have considerably less work to do now! And the series is brilliant, isn't it? I always forget how much I love it. --
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I see you keep changing my contribution on "Eyes Wide Shut". Now, I have better things to do in my life than loosing my time in a struggle with you, but it is clear that you have not seen the movie and that you don't know how to write in English. The editing you did on the piece is not only
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Sorry that I haven't got any reference for my dad but he hasn't really got any. I've emailed a company representing freelance technicians within the film and TV industry near where his old company was to see if anyone remembers him but that's a looong shot as you would expect.
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In today's Sunday Times, a literary puzzle identifies a famous author '"buying a house in a village in 1920.....his ashes scattered nearby upon his death in 1933, one year after being awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature."
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469:- of course that image sums it up!!! Several images per page is OK I think. Screenshots I think are better than the posters as they familiarize the reader with the actual content of the film. All the best
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