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Figure of speech. Look, I'm not saying that he'll start making clean edits as soon as someone welcomes him with a plate of tortillas. I'm saying, we should guide new users who show some intent to contribute constructively. Knowledge is a labyrinth of rules and guidelines, and we must make all efforts
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message, and continued to vandalize. That is clearly not the case here. You present a new editor with big red signs and bolded letters saying he will be blocked; of course he will be offended, and no doubt that the point you were trying to drive into him, will not reach him. We want to encourage new
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But how can you let all those derogatory comments against me be still here and delete mine ? Do you call all those comments against me related to the topic or civil ? Moreover , this conversation looks rather pointless without my comments . You should take notice that those comments have been far
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Hey Mike, can you please tell how to become members of the various "groups" on
Knowledge. For example, there people who welcome new editors on Knowledge, there are people who monitor recent changes. I want to become a member who deletes inactive users on Knowledge, delete pages that do not comply
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Hi MikeLynch. Your help is greatly appreciated, but let's face it, the articles related to Indian Cinema are increasingly surrounded by trolls, fanboys and newbies (of certainly not the good kind). I've decided to quit editing those articles for good after such type of funny dispute where all
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policies and guidelines were totally ignored, and I had to outthrow their faulty logic, which I successfully did (if you've read the discussion). What's funnier, I was still reverted by two different editors, who after inserting lame comments, warned me of calling the admins on me. Regards,
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Reading a warning is one thing, and mending his ways is another thing. True, if you were to go to ANI or ArbCom and argue a case, saying that "Yes, he has read the warning - See this diff! he has removed it" Then you will win the case, you're a good
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more abusive and off-topic than mine . So , i request you Lynch , to either put my comments back or delete the whole of the comments section that refers to my name again n again ....and that too with abusive comments against me
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Bollywood article is just an article about it, and is not any central place for Bollywood related discussions. I suggest you bring up the matter in
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