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1002:. I've reverted your addition to the list of Earls of Shaftesbury, since he was not in fact, either an earl or an heir. I'm puzzled why you would add him to the list. It's like that old Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the other one." If you seriously thought it was appropriate to add him to the list, why did you limit yourself to only adding the one individual? In all things, if you want to include the lords in the article, I would suggest either creating a separate list, or renaming the section to reflect the appropriate content within the list, i.e., Earls and Lords. To include the lords, establishes the current section heading as misleading. It would also be appropriate if you were going in this direction, to include 2572: 1302:, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Knowledge administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community 1815:: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the 2112: 2251: 2070: 3648: 2987: 3598: 3378: 1452: 3810: 3488: 3126: 2897: 2767: 2496: 2348: 2224: 1973: 1897: 2179: 1720: 2131: 3216: 371: 2059: 2464:

Baron hold Baron Y as a curtesy title since his father is not a single-title peer? If not, why? His father will not use this other title, so is it simply because he is a lower noble that he is not allowed to give his son a courtesy title? Otherwise, is it possibly a choice that the son can make whether or not it is proper to take the barony Y instead of The Right Honorable Mr. Z?

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If you look at the citation for Balfour Paul Vol IV, p383, it leads one to an online Scots Peerage, dating from 1907. P383 clearly stipulates that the 4th Duke's mother, Anne Duchess of Hamilton surrendered her titles to the crown to be regranted to her son. This happened prior to the political union

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I was hoping you might be able to help me with this scenario: a Baron holds two baronies, X and Y, which were inherited separately and were not created together (such as in a barony such as Baron X and Y). Baron X is considerably older than the other, thus takes precedence. Can the eldest son of the

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The funny thing is, I now have two editors haranguing me to obtain consensus, yet neither of them is actually willing to engage in the discussion. I just keep looking at WP:V for the part that says material doesn't have to be verifiable, as long as nobody responds to the attempts at discussion made

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article that states that "there isn't a fuller citation". Everything can be appropriately cited. To that end, I have provided the citation format within the article. Can you provide the name of the editor along with the page number of the Announcement? Simply add this information as indicated in the

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This needs to be reverted. Firstly, his most common name was simply Lord Denning, but secondly MOSTCOMMON specifically excludes people with peerages, who should go at the most appropriate title per MOS naming guidelines for peers (which is actually wrong in regards to how it's done irl, but meh). I

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Can you explain what is factually incorrect about my reasons for proposing this deletion. Can you explain how the Dukedom of Leinster exists when the peerage of Ireland does not anymore (not to be confused with Northern Ireland, Ulster is in fact only recognised as an Earldom). Even then Northern

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Hello, nice to see that you're back. I have a couple of questions I think you could help me with. What names did the second and third Barons Sandys use (Moyses and Marcus, I believe although I don't have any sources). They also had a younger brother named Lord Arthur Augustus Edwin Hill (known as

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needs a full citation. At this time, the content referring to an heir is unverifiable. While the birth may be true, it needs appropriate sourcing. I have asked Dinah to make a notation to the estate website. At that time, we can add use that source. Can you add a full citation from The Times to

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again it appears that May has now been ranked (extremely low) in the academics section. Therefore, i would like to ask if May's historical ranking could be added to her lead section now (as it is pretty important to have on there). Something like "May's ineffective leadership has been widely

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Hi. I know that you have access to some good sources and perhaps you could help me here. Was it the 2nd or 3rd viscount Wenman who sat in parliament for Oxfordshire in 1660? Was the 3rd viscount an MP at all? And how were the 2nd and 3rd viscounts related - brothers? Regards,

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I used all his first names in the article I created on him. If we don't have a source that explicitely say what name he used, I think it's best to include all of them. I'm also going to add this discussion to the article's talk page. By the way, I was surprised that you moved

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Do you have any thougths on where I could include the information I added to the Met Police article? I agree its not as high profile as the others. I think maybe expanding this section out into its own article would be suitable but I'm not sure what to call it, any ideas?

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of 1707, and the creation of the peerage of GB. Therefore the Earldom of Cambridge and the Barony of Innerdale stand in the peerage of England. The Duke also was also granted his Great-Uncle's title of Earl of Lanark in the peerage of Scotland. Hope this clears things up?

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for an A-Class review and have been told by a reviewer to unbolden these titles. I thought such styling was prescribed somewhere in WP:BIOGRAPHY but I cannot find where (if it exists), or perhaps it was once there but has been changed? I found you use such boldings in

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Dear Proteus. I see you have a lot of experience with aristocratic biographies and you seem to be one of the editors from whom I picked up the habit of bolding the subject's titles when they first appear in the body of the biography. I have submitted

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Why did you revert my movings of the Kathleen Kennedy and William Cavendish articles? They had rather long titles and I was making them more concise and easier for people. The whole "___ of Hartington" really isn't needed in their article titles.

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He is a descendant of my family, and in my family tree it is spelt as Macdonald. Some places spell it as MacDonald but other Macdonald, people in my family spell it Macdonald, this might be the same in his

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I have added a further question there under the heading "lineage question", and I was told you could be of help with all this stuff. I hope you can be of any help. Thank you very much.

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Hi Proteus. You reverted changes to new vector images for these ranks with the comment that the collar numbers were wrong. Would you be able to elaborate what is wrong with them?

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In short, although he was born "Thomas Sean Connery," his own webpage refers to him as "Sir Sean," and his name appeared in the London Gazette as "Sir Sean Thomas Connery."

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Sir James Balfour Paul was one of the longest standing Lord Lyons of Scotland, and I would be more inclined to follow him than Cokayne.(that with respect to Clarenceaux)

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Hello, Proteus. An edit war seems to be developing over whether the lead should refer to her as 'Lady Mary Boleyn', I was interested in your opinion? Thanks,

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You have changed this back to the original which spells 'Ramsay MacDonald' please not that this is wrong and it should read 'Ramsey Macdonald' Thank You

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Per che the reverts? The Marquis of xxx is the standard spelling in Scotland for Peers of this rank, and the correct manner to address them is Marquis in

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A baronet of first creation must swear an oath of allegiance under the Promissory Oaths Act 1868 s 14(5). Is this still the case?

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Thanks. But did the second Baron Sandys use the same first name as his elder brother, the Marquess of Downshire?

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Here's the support for the appearance of Sean Connery's name as "Sir Sean Thomas Connery."

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