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from this experience, that I wonder about the professionalism and legitimacy of it - not to mention basic fairness and decency. This is what I wrote, finally, on the talk page: PERSONAL ATTACKS SINCE ADMINS CANNOT OR WILL NOT REMOVE PERSONAL ATTACKS OR SANCTION THE OFFENDOR, IT IS INCUMBANT ON THE EDITORS WHO ARE ATTACKED TO DO SO. THIS IS INEXCUSABLE. I REMOVED THE TABLE WHERE MIDGLEY TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THE NUMBER OF EDITS I HAD IN GIVEN ARTICLES. THIS IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS RFD, IS A CLEAR ATTEMPT TO MALIGN AND INSULT. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS UNCHECKED WAR AGAINST ME, BECAUSE MIDGELY DOES NOT HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH WHAT I EDITED. IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT SOME ADMINISTRATORS START ACTING FAIRLY, AND EQUITABLY. NO OTHER LEGITIMATE ORGANIZATION WOULD TOLERATE THIS KIND OF ABUSE. IF WIKOPEDIA DOES, THAN THERE IS SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH IT.MollyBloom 01:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
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we have a category about 'Tennessee.' Also, consider this: some benighted individuals, focused only on their own parochial world view, have created 'subcategories' like 'British supercentenarians.' But doesn't the 'world's oldest person' include the entire world? To try to fit everyone into one nation is like trying to dissolve the UN. It's not helpful and it's actually harmful. Is Betsy Baker British or American? Or both? And is Jeanne Calment of local, or UNIVERSAL, interest? The answer is 'UNIVERSAL.' Hence the need for a 'UNIVERSAL' category.
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This baiting and relentless abuse (and falsehoods) really border on cyber-stalking (illegal) and libel (tortious). I am shocked that after my repeated pleas for intervention, not one administrator has had the courage to stand up and tell Midgely (forcefully) to stop it, or ban him. No wonder Midgely ignores warnings. In his case, they never seem to be followed through with. No reputable organization would tolerate this kind of abuse. I'm shocked that wikopedia would.: -->
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point, could I ask now what are the problems with the particular PNG image in question? It is 37 bytes larger to the GIF version, which is utterly inconsequential. Are there any display problems with this particular image? It works for me in all my browsers. If the only consequence is that someone running IE4 sees a white background instead of a transparent background then I really think that there's no advantage in breaking consistency. --
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you. If being a featured speaker in meetings in Korea, Mexico, Sweden, China, Canada & Italy + the major American Plastic Surgery meetings within the last calender year don't establish his credentials as someone of distinction in our field, I don't know what will short of being on Dr. 90210 (which ironically has approached him about coming to Nashville to film a show)Droliver 04:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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somehow a breast implant case. Lochner marked the beginning of an era that ended with the New Deal. It was a case about wage and hour laws that involved bakers. Had nothing to do with implants. HE also said I edited "connective tissue disease" because implants are claimed to cause them. I edited connnective tissue disease because I have lupus. Nothing in my edit even mentions breast imlants.
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moved the comment but that is all. He feels he is too 'involved' to admonish Midgely. If this is allowed to continue, Wikopedia will suffer and Gfwesq and I will continue to b e defamed. Gfwesq has proven to Ian that he and I are not the same person. This is unbelievable and it is worse that it is allowed to continue. PLEASE HELP
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it makes good sense to use image formats consistently (to allow for easy manipulation by the software, for example) and moreover PNG is a free format, whereas GIF is not. There is a reason why every Wikimedia project is moving towards standardising media formats. Seeing as the PNG version is updated, I'll switch to that now. --
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feelings in the pursuit of a better Knowledge -- our reputation on an encyclopedia depends heavily on interactions between editors. All that much better if we can all agree to work side-by-side, and do so in a public, transparent forum for all to see. Let's try to make this a positive experience for everyone.
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I was just about to update that PNG myself but I see you've beaten me to it. Surely it's now much preferable to the GIF (the only difference now is about thirty bytes, which cannot possibly make a difference to anyone who has enough bandwidth to view a wiki page). I'm familiar with IAR of course, but
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Now, the link in question does have some issues, for and against it; I find things to sympathize with and things to fault in all parties, here. For the time being, my interest is in calming things down. I would appreciate it if you (along with any other involved editors) would agree to set aside hard
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It does not take an Rfc, or a formal complaint as I have made to the Mediation committee, for an administrator to stop ongoing abuse and incivility. I am well aware of this, and have asked repeatedlly that it be stopped. I am a professional. I also am a human being, and do not deserve such abuse.
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As for the dispute on your talk page, you should advise them to take it somewhere else, someone else's talk page is not really the appropriate place for a dispute. You also might like to advise them that Knowledge doesn't want personal disputes that started elsewhere and you'll block them all if they
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IMpossible, apparently. I'd be obliged if that advice, which I'm following, could develop teeth, I've needed to archive my talk page ahead of time. FOr the record, I asked if we are sure that Molly and the other user are entirely separate. The answer is that they are n the same IP address, and are
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Regarding 'categorization': categories are set up to make it easy to find articles that are similar or of like kind. If, to satisfy the need of some, someone wants to make a subcategory, that doesn't make the main category redundant. We don't say that a category like 'American' is redundant because
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to using the PNG. There are only disadvantages. For example, it's incompatible with some older browsers. (I'm not saying that we should compromise the site's integrity for the benefit a small minority of users, but we shouldn't go out of our way to mess things up for them.) GIFs are every bit as
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I was initially banned (which was later removed) partly for being uncivil by saying, "Let me guess. You are a doctor" - this was what Ian said to me on my talk page. Yet Midgely has consistently and unrelentingly abused and insulted me on the Rfd for G. Patrick Maxwell. He has been warned, but he
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Note: Right, that diff shows it moved down, if you scrool down, you see it reappears, it seems that just a linebreak was added. Unfortunatly, this comment did manage to vanish when I moved a rather big chunk to the discussion page (since it wasn't all directly relevent), unfortunatly, I wrongly took
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Why is it that people enjoy barging into areas for which they are not expert, to dictate terms to others, when the end result is less for all of us? Knowledge is proving to be a major disappointment as some people are so obsessive with 'order' that they have 'lost sight of the goal.' Just like the
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is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Knowledge, list it here! Again, any matter,
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I have to admit you do have a good argument. But seeing other articles about High Court judges do not use this style, for example Brennan CJ, and the fact that articles on justices of lower Australian courts do not use this style then I stand by my edit. Until all such Australian court articles are
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We have two images from which to choose. Both are approximately the same size. The GIF is slightly smaller and compatible with 100% of graphical browsers. The PNG is slightly larger and incompatible with a small number of graphical browsers. The differences that exist—however minor—point to the
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24-bit PNG issue was reported long ago, but there's no indication of an impending fix. Regardless, this particular SVG contains alpha-transparency, so it would render as a 24-bit PNG anyway. Additionally, it doesn't match the checkmark icons used in related templates. (The dimensions and styling
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AUSTLII doesn't hold information on cases pre-1997 online for the VSC or VSCA. I'm wondering where I'm able to find information relating to several cases of murder that occured during the 80's and perhaps before. I was thinking the State Library may be able to help, or is there another database I'm
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If the administrators cannot or will not do something to stop this onslaught of personal attack, I will continue to delete the personal attacks, and encourage others to do so. NO reputable or legitimate organization would tolerate such abuses. I have not been on Wikopedia very long, but I can say
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He used this 'chart' to continue to attack me, instead of dealing wtih the merit of the Rfd. This Rfd has become pages and pages of personal attacks. I have pleaded and begged someone to do something. All I get is mild posts suggesting that while I did not start or cause the incivility, it might
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He even added a large table with a 'hand count' of all my edits in all the articles. This was to show that I did more edits in 'Breast Implants' than in any other article. (Yes, this is true, because there was an edit war there.) He also implied that an article I edited (Lochner v. New York) was
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Well, I blocked one of them for NPA (swearing and aggressively editing an opponent's user page), and then a couple of his allies and enemies turned up and started saying that the other lot should be blocked for 3RR and socks also, and then started arguing a lot. His ally got blocked for 3RR, so one
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I would like to ask the administrators to please put an end to these personal attacks. Midgely did not apologize either for falsely accusing me of removing his comments and viciously attacking me. I think he owes an apology to me for that, and to Wikopedia and to the administrators. Furthermore,
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Molly, I'll advise you now to not make any more comments to Midgley or to the deletion debate, at least for the time being. There are several admins who are informed about the situation and are more than capable of keeping an eye on things. I'm going to warn Midgley to stay civil, but you both need
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He is indeed notable, signifigant, and world-famous within his field IS the point. You don't have that many publications, acclaim in both the professional and lay press, and featured speaking engagements around the world if you're not. I'm not sure what it is that you'd look for establish that for
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What midgley is doing is rank character assassination. It violates the spirit of assuming the editor (in this gfweq or Molly Bloom) is behaving in good faith. If you don't have an argument that Maxwell is notable, attacking the messenger doesn't improve your empty message. This line of argument of
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Midgely, Gfwesq and I are separate users. The comment about marriage was withdrawn. You don't know if it is true or not. And even if it were, are you saying that husband and wife cannot have separate thoughts, or are not individuals, or cannot think for themselves? Are you completely under the
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Please help me on the comment page of Rfd. Midgely falsely accused me of removing his comment, then went on a rant about my alleged bias (as if he and Oliver don't have one). He threatened me, and insulted, and frankly, defamed me. Ian is being very timid in correcting this. HE did say that he
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I think if you're really that worked up about PNGs (and I see you've had several discussions about replacing PNGs with GIFs) you should take this to a wider audience - as far as I am aware all of the Wikimedia projects have decided that PNG is a better format than GIF, if for no other reason than
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Yes, sorry, on one of them I forgot to constrain the image size. On the point of the image formats, why do you insist on using GIFs? There may be some problems with the current implementation of SVG (perhaps rendering SVG as 16-bit PNG rather than 24-bit would be a better option) but we have both
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The other thing is that you need to check the "raw signature" box in your preferences if you're going to use HTML in your signature. Also keep in mind that styles in your monobook.css display for you only, and noone else. You can hardcode the styles in the signature instead, although some people
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Everybody else here has agreed to hold back from this type of baiting and arguing and let the Rfd process take place. I suggest that DrOliver do this also. Furthermore, admins have requested that nobody start blanking and reverting sections of the article. Oliver is still deleting the section on
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I personally think that using file formats consistently across the whole project is a good idea (to make manipulation by the software easier, for example). If you want to change the policy of using SVG and PNG over GIF then this is really not the place to do it, but since you want to debate the
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Ian issued a warning to Midgely already regarding civility in the Maxwell "keep or delete" discussion. Hopefully a reminder is sufficient. But, if not, hopefully an administrator will take whatever action is necessay to put a stop to this. Insults are not argument. Character assination is not
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Deletion of comments One of the pathognomic features of advocacy in pursuit of an agenda rather than an effort to write an encyclopaedia of general use seems to be deletion of other people's comments from for instance AFDs. Mollybloom dleted this comment of mine, and therefore affected what
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attempt to calm down the situation. If you're not interested, feel free to disregard this message. If you are interested, I'll ask that you try to put any harsh feelings behind you, and remember that you and all of the editors around you are all trying to build the best Knowledge possible;
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Midgely's has nothing to do with the discussion. Its a transparent attempt at bullying and intimidation. You've picked the wrong party to try that on, in my case and from what I've seem of Molly Bloom's spirited writing and intelligence, you've picked the wrong party there as well.
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I just thought of a better way to put this: what is the advantage of GIF? If the size thing only affects a handful of very small images, which of course are very small, meaning a small increase in size is not a problem, then how is it useful to break consistency?
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that comment with it. Ian13/talk 14:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC) Please may I ask you try and WP:AGF, especially when you are involved in a dispute, it helps keep everyone happier, and prevent disputes getting out of hand. Good luck! Ian13/talk 14:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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IAU trying to come up with a 'one size fits all' definition for 'planet' (that approach was abandoned as references to extra-solar systems were deleted), so there is no one Knowledge 'rule' that can be thought up that best applies in every situation.
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I'll certainly lend a hand. I noticed it was selected this morning, and I had a quick look at it, but I have no idea where to start! The series is certainly something I've had on my to-do list for a long time. I think I'll get my Manning Clark's
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It's fairly common to borrow other people's designs, and it's also generally customary to mention who you borrowed a design from, although it's not necessary. As for the picture, you can pick any (free-licence) image you like for the centre.
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I already edited before I saw your comment. Would you like me to delete what I wrote, or do you want to revert? I have really had it with this Midgely and his continually insulting me. He is on an unbridled scream and nobody is stopping
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I've removed all of those comments. Please try to leave the AfD alone for now, and ignore Midgley: I've already warned him to be civil, and that will do for now. I'm going to bed, but I'll remind some other people to keep an eye on this.
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Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to
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as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended.
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Why is it that people continue to destroy and tear down, rather than build up? We see people remove images of Christina Cock, Joan Riudavets, etc all because of some alleged 'unsourced' claim, when in fact the images were sourced.
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I am requesting at this time that Midgely be banned from editing, since he has continued to make personal attacks on me. He has already been warned, I have repeatedly asked him to stop, and he does not. Please help with this.
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domination of your wife? Or visa versa? This is very 1950s thinking, Midgely and it says a lot. I would like to presume you are of good faith, but it does not appear so, considering you know that this comment was withdrawn.
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And finally, you are NOT following that advice, Midgely, by your very insults here. It is utterly astonishing that you continue to personally attack me and Gfwesq. How can you possibly say you are "following" that advice?
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there is always the chance that a spontaneous anamnesis will occur in a person, whereby they might remember the name of the Black Iron Prison without knowing the name/book VALIS. i think it should still have its own entry.
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Thats's fine, but please restore blanked section, It is not right that Oliver was able to blank it and now leave it that way. Midgely and I had compromised, Gfwesq was happy, and another editor said it was ;'excellent;'.
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I have nothing but respect for your intelligence, your experience, and your contributions to Knowledge. Thank you for the time you've taken to read my message, and any subsequent time you might put into this case.
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The New York case has NOTHING to do with plastic surgery or breast implants. The case is about wage and hour law, involving bakers (you know the guys that bake bread). Nothing whatsoever to do with implants.
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I've reverted to the version before you and Droliver started edit warring. It is not an endorsement of that version in any way, other than that it seems to be supported by most editors on the talk page.
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page (as you know) with the code from your page but I don't understand it. It seems to be setting tabs. I don't know css yet but I want to tackle that part of wikipedia. Could you explain it?
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indicating what circumstances (all of which are absent here) would make the link worth adding to the article. Hopefully that sort of illustration will be better than simply rejecting the link. --
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Yeah, I noticed those, and figured they were all socks of each other, although I didn't know who the puppeteer was. I've blocked those three for the time being, and there's a case now filed at
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I accept your wording - that is much more objective than the previous. But it is also worth mentioning that it is the first time that two Jews have ran against each other in Federal politics.
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has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs.
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that they can have thin skins. Likewise, I've known firsthand how tiresome it can get, reverting vandal after vandal, and I see that this article in particular seems to have a bit of a
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On the other hand if you know the name of the case I can probably get the judgment and email it to you, although I'm not really supposed to do that because of copyright reasons. --
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I also have experienced my first kerfuffle as an administrator - two users, pro and anti- Chinese Communist Party, strongly appealing for the other to be banned on my talk page.
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3. Yes, the size difference is inconsequential. My point is that the GIF isn't larger than the PNG (as often is the case). As such, the PNG provides absolutely no advantages.
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IANAL. Thanks a million, both of you. I decided to reply via email to Stephen for reasons of privacy. Feel free to share that email with Xtra if it helps anything progress. -
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I've looked at your userspace for the first time since I started editing seriously and I thought it badly needs a lot of decorating. Why are the Australian editors so stingy?
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Anyways, it's a little strange because we're on the opposite sides of the LOE debate but I like your user page so I was hoping you could hook me up with some good wiki tips.
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Yes, the adrenaline rush from those last few minutes has kept me up until now. Although I'm in the process of hitting the wall, so I'll say goodnight. Can't be too tired for
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That one's blocked too now. Hopefully the autoblock will hit him soon, although given the sheer number of socks he probably has a dynamic IP. A checkuser may be in order. --
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I'm flattered :) I also liked the story about how she was hired for the second equal pay case. Now, I guess the next question is, who on earth is up editing at 5am? --
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The PNG file is larger and has a solid background. We could update it to match the GIF, but it still would be slightly larger (without providing any advantages). —
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Hi Thebainer. I've added source information for this image. The image quality is quite poor. I'd be happy to see it replaced with another of higher standard. --
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I have been told I have done this. I stopped. Please see what Oliver wrote (which, by the way, is still unsubstantiated claim), to argue with a 'delete' vote:
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I find it interesting and rather coincidental that the three judges that AntonioBu seems to be continually reverting happen to be the same ones as I list on
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I am very tired of this onslaught of personal attacks, Midgely, and I hope that the administrators will finally do something about it. This is inexcusable.
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socks/impersonators. I reported it at AIV, but no one seems to be around and as you can see, he's rampaging through Australian articles converting CBD : -->
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towards each other. Knowledge is not particularly accessible to newcomers, and as beneficial new users are arguably our greatest resource, we would
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of the sides is out of action - at least for a day. They appear to be stalking around WP reverting everything, so I had to lock a few of the pages .
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This is an archive of past discussions. Please do not edit it. If you want to continue a discussion, copy the old discussion, then post it on the
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be better if I left it alone. And in the interim, nothing is said to Midgely (or he deleted it on his talk page) and the abuse continues.
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Court cases, while copyright, can be copied, if a reasonable amount and where for legal research. It should not be a copyright problem.
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Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been
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links. Could you explain them to me? I know how to code in a few programming languages so don't hold back in any explanation. Your
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The only misrepresentation here is that you are pretending to be 'civil'. IF this is civil, I would hate to see you out of control.
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Counting contributions, I went on the edit sumary for that new york case which says "...Plastic surgery...". This isn't healthy.
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married. The question, and actually IMO the degree of separation, are being misrepresented, and it is very tedious and tiresome.
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behaving in good faith or in the spirit of Knowledge civility. I shall not and need not further comment on Midgely at this time.
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standardisation (which is surely a good thing), and I really don't feel like questioning that on an image-by-image basis. --
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Now people extraneous to the field are going around, tearing down the 'supercentenarians' category which was THERE FIRST.
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don't grow up. But that's kinda harsh, so you could try looking for someone who knows something about the subject area. --
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easy to manipulate as PNGs, and the Unisys LZW patents have expired. As of next month, GIF will be a 100% free format.
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Please help with this. This can't be allowed to continue without someone putting a stop to these outrageous insults.
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in some older browsers. I realize that this is a condition that must sometimes be tolerated, but not when there's
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Welcome to Knowledge. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the
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This is what Oliver wrote to badger a 'delete' vote, after all had been asked NOT to argue with the Rfd votes.
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Midgley has been cooperating of late. Rob Oliver still has not. This is the latest. I am so tired of this.
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These users are both blocked for 31 hours, I thought I would let you know since you and I both warned them.
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page. I can probably figure out the email stuff on my own if I have to so don't sweat that part too hard.
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Hey, we're kind of overdue for having a meeting for the WMAu Education Committee. Can you pop over to the
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series? It's looking quite pitiful at present, so it'd be nice to have all hands on deck on this one. :)
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going on. Please visit the page and sign your name to indicate whether or not you're still active. :-)
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Would you be willing to take their case? If you will, please leave a note and sign under the entry on
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2. I would like to change the policy, but this is not a requirement. As you're well aware, we don't
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if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered
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This is only a part of what Midgely wrote in his accusation of me, and this is Ian's response:
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GIF as the more logical choice. There's nothing to be gained through blind "consistency." —
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he owes me and Gfwesq an apology for continuting to insult us and impugn our character.
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Well, I came on after the soccer, and some things came up. Eh. I'll be off very soon.
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I think your fair use rational is well reasoned (I became aware of you because of
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and it has happened just after AntonioBu has engaged in a dispute with myself.
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page looks really cool but I have no idea what its purpose is. Same with the
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Any chance you might have some time to help with this fortnight's ACOTF, the
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ONce again, I ask that all of this STOP.MollyBloom 04:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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Ok, but it is hard to be continually insulted, and watch an endless rant....
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As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on
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p.s. I have a sattelite photo of Australia in the middle of my user page!
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and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on
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damn it). I also cited you as my source for the wiki code I "borrowed."
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When a merge is performed, then the original page can be turned into a
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No problems. It's always nice to put the blocks in the right place. --
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changed to reflect this my opinion stands. 13:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
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As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace
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I keep your contributions page on my watchlist these days. :)
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I've been customising the code I got from you. Check it out
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Lexis Nexis would have it, but that is a subscriber service.
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Thanks for the comment - your suggestions are quite useful.
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Do you mind telling me where you got that shirt from?
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subsequent participants might know of the background.
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make sure all users who join Esperanza are welcomed
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