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I want to be clear that my suggestion to merge the templates meant to also merge the functionality! I agree that being able to include a date without converting to YYYY-MM-DD is handy. Seems like there should be a way to check the first parameter. if it is a straight integer, then treat it as a YYYY,
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As the original programmer of the "hyphenless" template, which is used on over 450,000 pages, I worry that a premature merge could cause confusion - even consternation. What advantage would the merge do, other than eliminating an apparently extra wiki page? Are we sure that there is nothing that
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Don't get me wrong: I'm not implacably opposed to a merge. BUT: what sort of extensive testing regimen do you propose to make sure nothing disappoints our readers? Would we make a new template and then carefully test it on a small subset of bio pages, like a dozen or so?
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Thoughts on this? It seems to address all your concerns about lost functionality and editor confusion while still helping us efficiently maintain one template instead of two. ~
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so that it uses the one-parameter approach if one parameter is supplied and the multiple-parameter approach if more than one parameter is supplied. The additional parameters in
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mostly due to a lack of example merged code demonstrating the functionality of a merged template, but please feel free renominate for merging once there is demonstration code.
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that action. The hyphenated template is inferior, and does not properly emit microformat markup. Its attempt to emit Gregorian dates is utterly broken: the emitted HTML of
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as a wrapper to allow editor usage to go uninterrupted while minimizing the costs of maintaining two templates at the same time.
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These templates serve the same purpose. The only difference is the format in which they take the date parameters. Since
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should work. I am NOT proposing eliminating the ability to supply a date in the format of "January 2, 1990". --
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External-link template with only two transclusions after two years; red link to parent site. (note that
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if and only if it's possible to preserve the functionality of
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is use significantly more (ratio of 61:1) I feel that
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Knowledge:Templates for discussion
Log
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Template:Birth date and age
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deletion review
Plastikspork
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Template:Birth date and age
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history
transclusions
logs
subpages
Template:Birth-date and age
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history
transclusions
logs
subpages
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Template:Birth-date and age
Birth date and age
Birth-date and age
Zackmann08
What I been doing
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Birth date and age

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