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981:(my bolding). His posts tend to be obscure, evasive, confusing, polemic, selfconscious - he seems to consider these commentaries an art form or an academic activity in its own right, rather than a part of a proces to improve the actual articles. His commentaries are perhaps suitable for a coffee break chit-chat at an academic institution amongst scholars who enjoy that sport, but here, he's just cluttering up talk pages with discussions going nowhere. I have not identified the editor in question, as I do not want to report him at this point - in fact it's difficult to single out anything to report. Rather, I would like advice on how to proceed, if at all, based on the assumption that my assessment is fair.16:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC) 912:"Label the comment neutrally but do not sign and do not use names (type 02:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC), which gives only a timestamp)....". don't know if I understand this bit? My problems can be picked up at my user talk page, wblakesx talk. I have never modified an article itself, and have never had any problems before. I have found incivility and presumtions, from some admins, of bad faith where none existed. After removing the objected to material have "been left hanging in the air". I replied to links left on my talk page and have been threated for vandalism and serious vandalism. 31: 446:. They have not yet gotten to the point where I feel comfortable slapping up template but the constant charges of bias and unfounded attacks against other editors has really soured the discussion. This user also after disagreeing with a few edits went through the article deleting many sections seemingly out of spite. I am relatively new to this kind of behavior so thought I would seek outside assistance especially considering the charged atmosphere. --06:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 916:. I am here for procedural reasons only, feedback to avoid runaway system destruction ( info theory and electronics metaphor, also applied in a work called "The Nerves of Government" governance. I firmly believe I have met some admins who are not ethically ot tempermentally up to the job. I don't have a lot of time presently to deal with this but would like to see Wiki not taken by little tyrants. But who cares? 761:. (That claim is false, as is shown on the (hopefully) current version of the page). Since then, he has been vociferously demanding that all other users leave the page alone, and has reverted nearly all constructive edits to the page, often calling them vandalism. That small stub article has now had over 150 edits since July 2004. He has recently vandalised 998:. I'm not sure how I can ask about my own behavior w/o signing my post, unless someone looks at the hist. But if people look at the hist, then leaving your post unsigned is kinda useless, don't you think? But anyhow. I am very open to constructive criticism regarding my behavior in the disagreement above. 00:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC) 968:
A user has since December 2005 made 161 post on 42 article talk pages, plus 85 edits to his own talk page, but has never edited an article; neither do his posts suggest any specific changes to be made. He claims he is using the talk pages to provide a "commentary" to the articles, but seems to make a
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same type, and it appears to me unlikely the user is making any case-by-case determination or using any judgement before making this sweeping edits. If user is not notifying me that my images are now subject to deletion, I'm guessing the same thing is not happening to several hundred other editors.
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templates to several of the images I've uploaded, without following the instructions in the template to notify the original uploader. This, in addition to blanketly adding this tag to what appear to be a wide variety of promotional photos; his user log indicates several hundred edits of exactly the
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is contacting people who appear to be fans of Avenged Sevenfold, claiming to be the guitarist from the band. This is obviously not the real person, and I'm hoping something can be done to stop this person from contacting anyone else, and spreading false information about the fans of A7X on the Wiki.
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has been reverting to vandalized versions. Several people (myself included) didn't notice what he had done and we reverted newer vandalism to his versions. Now the page has old vandalism sprinkeled throughout. Hopefully someone knows how to fix this situation. I put a warning at Will's user
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article , promoting Indian nationalism at the expense of the quality of the article. Whilst implying that anyone who disagrees with him is an "Imperialist" or a "racist". His views obviously need some level of inclusion in the article, but not at the expense of different points of view.
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LOL. That "evidence" shows that I am now logged in from the IP of 208.192.66.196. I've been found out! Seriously, though, you're being ridiculous, this is the same disregard for Knowledge policy that I'm referring to. Someone else will remove your impertinent "evidence" soon enough.
499:) and making edits that are inappropriate at best. Several editors have tried to talk to him about this, on both his Talk Page and the articles' Talk Pages, but he's not listening and maintains that he's doing nothing wrong. Most recently he has tried to add sexual content, 957:
Compromise is sought by using most recent news story, and using an encyclopedic tone. Requesting review of history of page and all these users. Please advise if correct protocol has been taken, and if not, please advise further. Thank you. 15:58, 22 November 2006
757:, but now operating anonymously from a small number of IP addresses ) has been for a long time engaging in edit-warring on this page. In January 2006 he requested that the page be protected as it was a registered trademark of his company, 636:
is making many changes without stopping to discuss objections to previous changes first. Someone needs to explain to him that discussion and consensus is more important than making a lot of changes quickly. 00:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
900:. The editor has been placing threats in comments along with his external links. I'd prefer if someone could help because my catching him in the act and adding multiple spam warnings may have exacerbated the situation. -- 789:). Several people have attempted to discuss matters with him over a long period, but he persists in his activities, claiming that since his company produces the product, he is entitled to control the content of the page. 135:). Do you think I should remove it or leave it there? I'm not sure what his game is, but he seems to want all his warnings removed immediately afterward they are put onto his talk page. Looks fishy to me. 624:
and just someone with a good sense for how Knowledge works, because I feel that both these users are a bit unexperienced, so we've been butting heads a bit. 22:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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regarding whom is and is not a notable resident. Attempts have been made to contact the two users primarily involved with the dispute, whom may be one-in-the-same:
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who is by history, fixed on adding arrest records and mug shots to Knowledge articles. It has been cited that Knowledge is not tabloid journalism - per
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I fail to see how. I'm not seeing anything wrong there, except an admin trying to stop unsourced, POV material. And please sign your posts. --
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I forgot to mention that the type of vandalism is where a bunch of dates, numbers and things have been changed.17:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
582: 100: 901: 172: 81: 1028: 782:) to promote his product. Somebody operating from one of the addresses which he uses (and which is assigned to his company) has vandalised 644: 167:, among other IP addresses) has a long history of repeatedly reverting my edits (and the edits of other users) to his own versions of the 733: 482: 339: 139: 509: 920: 525: 114: 776: 718: 258: 186: 1042: 657:. My edits were attempts to improve the quality of the article. Other than that I really need advice on how to strongly encourage 995: 986: 955: 947: 678: 95:
has acted uncivil and inappropriate in talk pages of the articles which he has edited. He has been warned multiple times on his
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to such an extent it doesn't have plausible denial for its deletion of content, i.e. incompetence resulting in vandalism. --
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page has been made but received no response from the two aforementioned users. Thank you for your time.
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with some pretty harsh comments. Don't know who he is, but I'd appreciate this being looked into. Cheers.
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to an article about a children's TV series, and has been openly hostile when the content was removed.
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I have a user deleting all my edits most of them without a single link and threatening me via email.
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Fixed the vandalism, not such a big problem as I supposed at first.18:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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who keeps making not-vandalism but unhelpful / contentious / arbitrary edits, and now with
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is still leveling personal attacks against users, behaving in an uncivil manner (Example:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Kearney%2C_Missouri&diff=prev&oldid=87189434
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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to get help but things are out of control at
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to use "fact", "dubious" or "quote_required" tags rather than blanket reverts. --
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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page. However, recently that user has begun making more personal attacks seen
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The purpose of a Knowledge talk page is to provide space for editors to
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EXOP OF MISSOURI | CLAY COUNTY |UU-208-192-64-D4 (NET-208-192-64-0-1)
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User JoshuaZ appears to have abused his SysOP priviliges, violating
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page, with accusations of vandalism on my part in the edit summary.
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WS/EXOP OF KEARNEY MISSOURI DBA UNITE | GREATER KANSAS CITY |
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Sustained anon edits but all exactly the same edit, by users
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Would an admin please examine the frequent reversions at
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Please, would an Admin address my request to block user
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I have reason to believe that this person might also be
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UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET1996B (NET-208-192-0-0-1)
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as explained in detail on Admin Rockpocket's Talk page
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He has used the following accounts and IP addresses:
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There's already a comment about this user above, but
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There has been continual vandalism and now 753:A user (previously operating under the name 979:to its associated article or project page 67:User_talk:Dina#Stop_your_revert-vandalism 99:, but persists in his caustic behavior. 948:Knowledge:Biographies of living persons 127:is making repeated personal attacks on 14: 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 802:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Efax 25: 942:, and same initial edit as well by 23: 24: 1078: 263:Whatever you say, it's evidence! 502:and links to pornographic films 29: 1007:An unregistered User edited my 952:Knowledge:What Knowledge is not 812:User_talk:Ifnord/#Deville's RfA 792:See some of his discussion at: 594:This problem has been resolved. 18:Knowledge:Wikiquette assistance 934:(vandal warnings in history), 884:09:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC) 219:208.192.0.0 - 208.255.255.255 125:User:Power_level_(Dragon_Ball) 13: 1: 1067:22:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC) 1043:17:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC) 921:02:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC) 902:17:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC) 825:Comcast Cable Communications 734:23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC) 729:Template:Replaceable fair use 719:04:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC) 645:03:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC) 599:16:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC) 583:17:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC) 558:22:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC) 526:18:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC) 510:05:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC) 483:07:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC) 259:10:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC) 228:208.192.64.0 - 208.192.79.255 187:09:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC) 150:01:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC) 140:21:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC) 108:is attempting to disrupt the 651:Neuro-linguistic Programming 612:. 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Index

Knowledge:Wikiquette assistance
archive
current main page
User_talk:Dina#Stop_your_revert-vandalism
WP:REVERT
WP:FAITH
62.147.39.202
04:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
talk page
17:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Jvalant
Indian Rebellion of 1857
18:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Power_level_(Dragon_Ball)
User:Someguy0830
User_talk:Yuser31415
Yuser31415
21:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Yuser31415
01:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
User:DocFisherKing
User:66.246.72.108
David Duke




Ryodox
09:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
DocFisherKing

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