Knowledge talk:WikiProject Marching band

2158: 1984: 22: 1090:'s marching band, the current Bands of America Grand National Champs, have been very successful for the past several years and beyond, but they don't have their own article. Is it appropriate to add the high school's article to 'Category:High school marching bands'? Also,I know notability is always a tough question, but are there any rough guidelines about what would make a high school marching band notable enough to have its own article? Thanks! -- 1405:). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found 125: 71: 53: 2476: 2417: 2358: 2098: 2039: 1338:, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. 2258:, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time. 2543:. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are 1739: 1254:. We are planning to release the selection before December 2008, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Knowledge 1.0 Editorial team, 1036: 1922:

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Thanks for the sanity check. I'm not sure why I was thinking of going by anything but the normal notability guidelines... I'm going to not create an article for the band. I think their notability too temporal and depends a lot on their current success. Maybe a second or third BOA win would be a good

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be appropriate to add the school's article to the band category. As far as notability goes, articles for most high school marching bands probably don't make the grade. However, ones that have won high-ranking awards are likely the exception. The rule of thumb is the amount of third-party coverage. If

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I'd like to update the project page with some clearer goals and tasks. I know projects like these are super susceptible to editor turnover as people graduate from high school and college so it'd be good to add some timeless things to do. I'll get started by implementing automated talk page archiving

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Ok, so whilst looking at the Tennessee (sp) band's article I noticed they had a big section with fight song lyrics and such. Other schools have the more notable songs as their own articles. so, should the notable school/fight songs with their own articles be included in the project? I would think

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is a college band fraternity and is a current Good Article-class, High-importance article in this WikiProject. The article is being considered for Featured Article status. The current nomination is due to an exemption given by one of the FAC delegates; the first nomination closed with few comments

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Excellent idea. I implore all members of this WP to lend time to the cause. As we all know, it gets tricky, as each of us have a slightly different perspective, based on how/where we marched or have otherwise experienced marching band. I challenge all to keep the article informative, concise, and

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A quick search seems to show that there are currently about 300 WP articles that use the term in a band-related context, and none of the ones I glanced at explains what it is. Typical would be an article about a high school that says their band "won more captions than any other band" -- I can't

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The general rule for notability should apply: can you find reliable sources that allow you to support an article written about the subject? I doubt most fight songs actually qualify, although some digging through microfilm/fiche in libraries might uncover something on some fight songs. Also,

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A British-style brass band is not a "marching band", by the definition of that term in the Marching Band article. Brass bands do sometimes march ... but that doesn't make every (or indeed any) brass band a "marching band".

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article is currently being reworked by a new editor who is closely affiliated with the band. Some attention and assistance by subject-matter experts would probably be appreciated. I've left my own thoughts at

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or similar could then be a redirect to? Said article or section could briefly describe which captions are common in competitions, and maybe even have an etymology/explanation of the term for weenies like

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and no consensus on whether or not the article had achieved Featured Article status. I am posting this to ask all contributors to the Marching Band project to consider reviewing the article. Thanks!

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We would truly appreciate all the help we can get on this one. Hey, if it should be deleted, that's fine... but we just don't have the time or manpower to address the sheer volume we're facing!--

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Thus far, I don't know of any that have been nominated for deletion based on non-notability or on copyright violation. Not saying it hasn't happened or won't happened; I just don't know of any.

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I know this page is getting really slow in activity, but I still want to join in. I've looked around and there are no places I can do it that says participate. Is there any catch? Thanks! --

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with a redirect since the name is specific enough. Less specific cases like "Cougar Marching Band" would likely be disambiguation pages pointing eventually to a number of band pages. --

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you can get good information from newspapers, magazines, and news websites, you're probably okay. If the only source is the school or a band organization, you're probably in trouble. →

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Agree with the convention, as long as the more 'unique' names (without the university) are made redirects since there is some liklihood they'd be typed into the search box like that.

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I agree, though there are quite a number of University Bands that have or use what would be non-standard names. I hope supporters don't get too fired up, when we get it all set up.--

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pretty much came to a conclusion that no one is going to bother to enforce. Perhaps the next time it arises, it'll be just as much a waste of time as it was the first go around. →

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There needs to be a section on the Project page where editors can post when associated articles are nominated for deletion. I just found out that there was a delection attempt on

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I'm not sure whether this should be raised on this page or in the article's talk page (so I'll put it in both); but I don't think this article should be in this WikiProject.

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without checking the history. It wasn't until now that I realized it was part of an AfD discussion. However, the new article was never nommed for deletion and there are

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marching band" which would then either be the complete article if none exists or redirect to the name by which the band calls itself. The convention would be "

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well, if it's official video we might still need to see what the copywrite situation is. If the broader en-wiki community is not for it, that's fine. --

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Hmmm, that seems fine. though we do want to include redirects as well. and make sure they are on the universities main page/project pages as well. --

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meant, remembering my own confusion when I first ran across it (the obvious related question would be, "Can't we all say 'category'?", but I digress).

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article or as its own article. I support the category as well; I'll do some wiki-surfing in attempts to find articles which pertain to the category. --

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21:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC) And I guess what it comes down to on any bit of video is "does it help the article, and not be a copywrite violation." --

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I agree. Articles that are moved will automatically have redirects created. Creators of new articles should take the initiative in this department. —

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I mean no disrespect to marching bands or to the WikiProject - I just think this is an inappropriate categorisation, and likely to be confusing.

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Would anyone be against putting a category in the user box? That way we could quickly find each others talk pages if we needed help or whatnot.

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where the fight song has its own link. The actual bar of notability in Knowledge is not set that high should the question arise again.

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I'm just thinking of how proprietary people are about their band. I agree with autiger, the nonstandard names should have redirects.--

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I recommend that the main article be the band's own given name. My recommendation is that Redirect articles would be the ones titled "

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On the pages where the bands have repertoires or programs, only the composers or performers are linked. What about the music itself?

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is one of many places that refer to the song and other Big Ten songs directly. The sports articles use a template similar to

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of other fight songs now. So, with over a year passing, the issue should either be left alone or, at least, be revisited. →

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Can someone please find an audio recording for the Semper Supra march? Preferably add English subtitles? Thanks.

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Wow! Someone is really going after football article. I'll take a look and hopefully others here will as well. →

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I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to have it as a separate article, as that may veer toward

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as an example of a notable fight song. The article itself has a ref from the New York Times.

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I suppose it would be okay. However, if it's unsettled, I think it would be better to wait. →

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where the general format would be "University of Foo Band Name Here". An example would be

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is notable without even being placed into the category of Fight Songs. It was named in

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