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2502:(Kranéja) avec très peu d’habitants21. Parmi ces villages Finiqi évoque le nom de l’ancienne cité des Chaons, Phoeniks, fondée vers le Ve s. avant l'ère moderne. Concernant ces villages aussi, dans le registre ottoman ci-dessus mentionné sont inscrits des noms albanais typiques tels que : Gjin Reçi, Gjin Panariti, Gjin Zagorino, Gjin Krali (Frali), Leka Gjini (2 fois), Kozha Gjini, Gjin Vija, Zhupa Gjin, Gjini Spiri, Gjin Andrea, Kont Gjin Andrea, Gjon Dorza, Gjon Zhurmo, Meksh Gjoni, Polimer Gjoni, mais aussi Jani Jagop, Jani Katani, Jani Kosta, Jani Bogdani, Luka Jani, Jani Ispatari, Nika Jani (Finiq), Gjin Ilia, Gjin Pelegri, Gjin Kasnesi, Gjon Pelegri, Dhimo Gjini, Gjon Martini, Martin Gjoni, Deda Gjoni (Krane)22. Mais, selon Shkurti23, dans la zone de Vurgu, en 1927, ont été recensés 25 villages : Çukë, Pal, Aliko, Çaush, Tremul, Kasëmallajbej, Kaliveshush, Jermë, Halo, Kalivepasha, Krané, Ymerefend, Finiq, Vrion, Memushbej, Hajdëragas, Qenurjo, Karalibej, Vromero, Karahaxh, Mavropull, Metoq e Gjashtë, Rahullë, Shijan, Muçopolit, Mullamus qui, en 1927, comptaient en tout 3262 habitants. Donc, la majorité de ces villages ont dû être fondés après le recensement ottoman du XVe sc. 2510:

inhabitants21. Among these villages Finiqi evokes the name of the ancient city of the Chaons, Phoeniks, founded around the 5th century. before the modern era. Concerning these villages also, in the Ottoman register mentioned above are registered names typical Albanians such as: Gjin Reçi, Gjin Panariti, Gjin Zagorino, Gjin Krali (Frali), Leka Gjini (2 times), Kozha Gjini, Gjin Vija, Zhupa Gjin, Gjini Spiri, Gjin Andrea, Kont Gjin Andrea, Gjon Dorza, Gjon Zhurmo, Meksh Gjoni, Polimer Gjoni, but also Jani Jagop, Jani Katani, Jani Kosta, Jani Bogdani, Luka Jani, Jani Ispatari, Nika Jani (Finiq), Gjin Ilia, Gjin Pelegri, Gjin Kasnesi, Gjon Pelegri, Dhimo Gjini, Gjon Martini, Martin Gjoni, Deda Gjoni (Krane)22. But, according to Shkurti23, in the Vurgu area, in 1927, 25 villages were listed: Çukë, Pal, Aliko, Çaush, Tremul, Kasëmallajbej, Kaliveshush, Jermë, Halo, Kalivepasha, Krané, Ymerefend, Finiq, Vrion, Memushbej, Hajdëragas, Qenurjo, Karalibej, Vromero, Karahaxh, Mavropull, Metoq e Gjashtë, Rahullë, Shijan, Muçopolit, Mullamus which in 1927 had a total of 3262 inhabitants. So the majority of these villages must have been founded after the Ottoman census of the 15th c.

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should refrain from abusing the categories which is what concerns me the most. I consent to their fair use, not abuse. Categories may for example be reasonable in small towns and villages where the former minority's presence is historically influential, but I am not ok with categorizing the large urban centers of Greece which are known as places where multiple groups reside. IMO, cities whose long history and notability are vastly disproportionate to the influence of minorities in them, such as Athens, Ioannina, or Thessalonica, should not see their articles now being flocked with certain "former X ethnic minority Settlement" categories or whatever. So, I will kindly ask everybody to use these categories wisely. ---

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ces villages-là, la présence de l’élément albanais, qui aurait dominé, est bien évidente bien qu'en considérant leur position géographique l’on ne puisse non plus exclure la probabilité de la présence de quelque élément grécophone également. Mais la diffusion du grec dans ces villages appartient à la période après l’occupation ottomane, donc c'est un phénomène relativement tardif qui a besoin d'être expliqué. Toutefois, le problème de la diffusion du grec dans les villages de Dropull est semblable à celui des villages grécophones de Vurg de Delvinë. C’est pourquoi, nous allons nous arrêter un peu sur ces villages aussi

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material, and discuss on the TP of those relevant articles, we can achieve a desirable outcome. I do not doubt there can be problems, dispute and disagreements. However, as long as these are all approached on the basis of Good faith and sourcing, all will work itself out. P.s I don't mean to be super "defensive", or anything, its just that I personally try to either keep a calm civil conversation, or to not have it at all. I don't know you, but I have seen you be more reasonable and willing to try and reach solutions in comparison to "other" editors. For this you have my respect, regardless of what may occur moving forward.

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Balkan exclusive disruption once again. Thing is, when I told you that you should have told me from the start, I didn't mean just your words - I meant your evidence to counter mine (these cities I pointed above to verify my arguments). You didn't provide right away any evidence that indeed such categories are present and this led to me doubting that there are really any. That's what I am trying to tell you. Because without that evidence, plus the fact that cities with rich ethnic divercity lacked categories and yet, the fact that you created 3 categories

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Crivelli, widely active in the Marche but also known in Abruzzo for some of his works located in the Teramo area. The Greek gradually gets rid of his Byzantine origin, if this is now completely absent in the most recent of his triptychs, with surprisingly similar results to the manner of a painter who works on the Tyrrhenian shore, namely Vincenzo de Rogata, and in particular to his triptych evidenced by the coven of San Bernardino in Salerno.

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Hi thanks for creating this article. When we translate or borrow from other language wikis it’s a requirement to acknowledge the source. The best way to do this is to include it in your edit summary (e.g. “translated from el.wiki”) and there’s also a translation template you can add to the talk page.

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I can see your point. The Cham Albanian thing is indeed unrelated to Ioannina. However, significant parts of coastal Epirus were historically inhabited by this sub-group, and there is in my view nothing wrong with pointing this out. I think if we go on article by article basis, reflect on the sourced

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Michele Greco passed through Italy following a migratory flow somewhat different from that usual for his countrymen, whose main destinations were represented by Venice and from Puglia. Alongside a clearly Byzantine basic culture, Michele Greco shows precise Venetian updates, in the direction of Carlo

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Cool. So, other than Albanian historians and linguists, are there any Serbian or Montenegrin historians that can be used in your opinion? Since none of them are by your liking. It does seem like you really want to preserve your "academic consensus" by not providing any other historians and linguists

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as undiscussed move. From yours, Gugrak's, and GermanManFromFrankfurt's user contributions page, I am unable to find any discussion on wiki that has led to a consensus. There is a new discussion topic opened by GermanManFromFrankfurt in the article's talk page however. Let me know otherwise when the

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and trying to add them without discussing them after seeing that you were getting revert by other editors? I was certain, considering these facts, that we were dealing with the usual POV-pushing case here. None creates 3 categories and avoids using the talk page after being reverted already once for

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that came to my mind because they flashed on my mind thanks to their rich multicultural character. Or I should have searched using the Wiki's search engine for other categories but didn't think of doing that because I assumed it was pointless to do so) - just I was certain I was dealing with a new,

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I am no longer objecting to the use of such categories in the Greece topic area but please don't ask me to add a category with a less clarified name than the one I suggested. I won't oppose you adding the one you prefer, but if you dismiss my NPOV concerns then I don't want to be part of this. Good

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Do you or do you not have a policy on which you back up such claims? Because the above comments of yours are just your opinions if not, and they don't belong on Knowledge. I have asked you thrice already, please just link/quote it. If you don't, revert yourself. And please, make sure something like

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encyclopedia. By the way, you have my apologies for the mistake on my edit summary when I reverted the inclusion of your category to city articles. While removing it, I wrongly called it a template which was unintended. Thankfully the edit itself makes it clear I was removing just the category. ---

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Why are you bringing up templates? Categories for ethnicities are used all the time on Knowledge, and do forgive me if I am reluctant to agree on the opposite without seeing a relevant Wikipolicy. Can you please just link to one? Otherwise you will have to convince Knowledge to adopt one. Till that

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sentiments among editors which have no place in Knowledge I am afraid. All the templates or categories need to be removed from cities regardless of ethnicity. Ethnic templates, if the Knowledge community agrees into having any, may only be placed on the Ethnic people's article and only. Not cities.

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and goes against Knowledge's guidelines, and considering that the aforementioned cities are not known for coming under the control of a Cham state controlled by the minority that resided in these cities. A category implying that such an entity existed that has asserted control over the settlements,

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Yh no worries I am not a nationalist so I don't fight over the ethnicities of dead people lol (not accusing you but talking about other users on this site), we are all humans after all. I will check for sources about those notable figures when I have time, if reliable sources are not added there is

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exists and why I strive so much to keep all forms of (real or perceived) disruption at bay and maintain this topic area's stability, which IMO is quite stable compared to mixed or more historical topic areas. Even if I don't know you for a long time (Been in Knowledge for over 12 years, but I only

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Yes and no. Even if a single source verifies Greek presence in Istanbul or Jewish presence Thessalonica or Albanian presence in Ioannina, then expect no consensus because this is not how categories are used. Sources aren't the sole criteria for inclusion. For example thousands of sources confirm a

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Well I go by sources. If the article has sources which describe Cham settlement in it, that's good enough for the criterion. I would however be reluctant to add places like Ioannina, or any place outside of Chameria as these aren't really of significance to their history. But still, if the article

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I guess, if Alltan wants to add their newly created category on certain settlements in Greece, and considering that they pointed out to a precedent in Knowledge, then I can't in any possible way imagine why they would not let you do the same on Albania. However, if I may add something: all editors

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was founded as a Greek settlement but you wont see a "former Dutch settlement" or "former Greek settlement" on their articles, historic or not. Just this is not what templates are meant to be used for. The only reason Northern Epirus and Cham Albanian templates were created is because of the usual

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and this too shouldn't have been used since this is not how Categories are meant to be used. Nor you can find a "Dutch people" or "Greek people" Template in them either. Wrongly to what was attempted on cities in the Greece topic area, and what was done in the Albania topic area, the templates are

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You are accusing me of something I never did though. The category is not about a "nation", its about an ethnicity. There never was a Cham state, which is irrelevant because an ethnicity does not have to have a state. Now, please do link to me a Wikipolicy which says "no former ethnicity categories

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Par conséquent, il n’est pas très difficile d’éclaircir historiquement et linguistiquement la question de la langue des villages grécophones de Dropull aujourd'hui. Comme on vient de démontrer ci-dessus, au temps des recensements ottomans du XVIe s., parmi les noms des habitants des

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as there is some encyclopedic value and i will redirect them there shortly. Given the lack of population for possibly over a century, the small population when they did exist, and the lack of other unique historical significance it would appear that the subjects shouldn't have standalone articles.

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Hey whats up man. Yeah that was getting out of hand. I apologize if i seemed reckless. I will follow your suggestions and will also try to be a bit more reasonable with the name changes. Just one thing what do i do when i post on the talk page but nobody responds? Do i wait a while then revert or?

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We have to set up a norm for such categories. There isn't any compact and/or substantial Greek community in Vlorë, Durrës, Korçë etc. If the norm is to just add categories where an ethnic community lives, then we would have to tag Athens too because more Albanians live there than Greeks in all of

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kinds of abuses of such features, which you can't imagine, so excuse me if my caution gets the better of me. Just trying to send pretty clear messages in that we all have to be cautious because if larger cities which are noted for being multiethnic, there isn't a category in an article reflecting

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You should have informed from the start that you were simply doing something the Knowledge community has already done in the past instead of being just a Balkans-related phenomenon. You know how wary I am with the Balkan nationalism, so at least I owe you my gratitude for informing me later than

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As we have just shown above, at the time of the Ottoman censuses of the 16th century, among the names of the inhabitants of these villages, the presence of the Albanian element, which would have dominated, is quite evident, although considering their geographical position, one cannot exclude the

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Proper names of typical Albanian forms are also encountered in the Defter of the Sanjak of Delvinë from 1431-1432 on Vurg, so called by the Modern Greek word vurkos "low country, swamp". In this register only records four villages Finiki (Finiqi), Vurgo, Jeromi and Krajna (Kranéja) with very few

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Les noms propres de formes typiques albanaises sont rencontrés aussi dans le Defter du Sandjak de Delvinë de 1431-1432 sur Vurg, appelé ainsi par le mot du grec moderne vurkos "pays bas, marais". Dans ce registre-là ne sont enregistrés que quatre villages Finiki (Finiqi), Vurgo, Jeromi et Krajna

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which will prove useful for developing the draft. Specifically i find the 1976 reference at Mk-wiki of interest because it could prove more recent occupation; i have however not been able to track it down and verify it. There is also an locality in the region called Jazirce which may need to be

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but the sources are lacking, possibly additional criteria if historical importance can be proven. I've checked the data published on the 2002 North Macedonia census but it appears only municipality level is available and the 2021 census has only had the same published so far this year. There are

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Im chill enough alright. And I cant be bothered unfortunately, but feel free to do as you see fit. And those guys are mijaks, you can try disputing that but its common knowledge really. You should also use the talk page before any edits on controversial sites, if you have the material no one can

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impressions to other editors especially in the Greece topic area such as me, where we haven't been using such categories since forever. So yes, these unfortunate conclusions happen. That's why after your first category was reverted you ought to discuss the matter, not insist with creating more

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I am pointing to the common practices in Knowledge. If you look at any Greek city articles, you wont find any such unecyclopedic categories added to them! All the years Knowledge existed, none, ever has added such categories. None. You are the very first person doing so and are refusing to be

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Categories are not used for categorizing cities on racial or ethnic grounds. This is completely unecyclopedic to do. Instead, the articles may be categorized only by academic criteria, such as political, archeological or historical criteria. Not racial/ethnic! This is very disruptive for an

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Hello. Apparently Matevski claimed to be of Albanian origin in 2012? I see this on the Albanian wiki but unsourced. I tried to find some English sources supporting this but I couldn't find anything, though I assume the source you added is about this and, thus, don't plan on reverting again.

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equally extraordinary material into articles, citing Albanian sources. The idea that Serbian sources are "nationalist" and "exaggerated" just because they are Serbian, while non-Serbian sources are good, is very dangerous. Please, do not make such radical edits without prior discussion.

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Regarding the prose on Trnica it is unclear what this is referring to. I understand that perhaps there was a previous settlement that was destroyed so please add some additional prose for clarity on that. Additionally there is an image at Commons which may be relevant to this article.

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Yes agree. Btw that was really kind of you to say for me, and I wholeheartedly thank you for that. You too seem a reasonable editor too and I am glad. You have my apologies if I appear too protective of the Greece topic area. You have no idea how sad I am that the following article

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Just because you have not broken 3RR does not mean you're not engaged in edit warring, which you've been doing since the end of August on the Kuči page. And in addition to Petrović (1981), which is RS, you also deliberately removed sourced content referring to Djurdjev (1984).

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never that it isn't a Balkan-exclusive new thing and also an apology for any inconvenience I may have caused to you. So, yes, in this case, I do consent to the addition of the category. If you allow me, I will be happier if this is done under the condition that this category, "

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for obvious reasons which I explained above. Personally I am very grateful to you for showing me how the US, a multiethnic nation, has its ethnic group categorization following a more encyclopedic fashion, by having their ethnic populations categorically structured like this

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Looks useful afaics, thanks for the heads up! And I wish you luck on that stupid 3rr report or whatever it is, bet the admins are super confused at this point. Or maybe theyre laughing their butts off at the nonsense before their eyes. Anyways, tis what it is, see

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of 1431-2 since I see that you have cited his paper and written that anthroponymy was attested, however, I have access to the register itself and personal names were not recorded. Perhaps Demiraj was referencing the later registers of the 16th century? Thanks!

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But it was you who removed the category 1). with no Wikipolicy barring its usage and 2). while wrongly claiming its not used at all on Knowledge. I did not drag you into this. You then apologized for the mishap, but are not willing to reinstate it without a

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disambiguated against. A passing mention of a settlement called Jazirce (in the locale of Skopje) is made on a website called ЗЕЛЕНА ПОЗИТИВА but i cannot find anything to confirm the reliability of that as a source and prima facie indication is it's not.

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Thank you for showing interest in the page I published. If you have any questions you can direct them to me. Most of the extensive research on the subject is in Italian and requires translation. I will improve the page, if you want more extensive

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Hmmm categories are not used for ethnicties either, only for political entities that controlled the said settlement through its history. For the ethnic groups, no categories can be used, I am afraid. Unfortunately there is already the template

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If you could work on the sourcing that would be great, even better if the content could be improved but not necessary. When complete you can move it back into mainspace for review, feel free to ping me when you do so. Regards,

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I didn't remove some sources because they're Serbian, but because sources published in the Milosevic era aren't seen as academically credible in general. If some of the removals are disputed, I'm open to discussion about them.

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Alltan, I am trying to dash away any hopes of abusing the use of categories because the exact same thing about categories has been attempted in the past. For example the ] was already attempted addition on Igoumenitsa:

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reasoned with. This speaks volumes. This ain't changing now just because you say so. Forget it. The last thing Knowledge needs is flooding the category section with disruptive POV-pushing nationalist additions. ---

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You can post your suggestion regarding Djurdjev on the TP, and we can see if needed to adding it back. But jumbling in both authors like that is not how you get something in an article. It's rather unprofessional.

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Hey, I noticed that you have created the code of a template about Albanian noble families. I just wanted to tell you that I created the template based on your code, you can now add the template just by typing

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the only given source itself was written in the Milosevic era, when many Serbian academics produced works with nationalist and exaggerated claims of victimization that suited the government's nationalistic

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In accordance with our policy that Knowledge is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can

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Yeah... It shouldn't since the redirect on the 'k' version was going somewhere else. Only pagemovers and admins have the right to overwrite such single-edit redirect page when doing page move.

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I recently undid an edit of yours (possibly fueled by nationalistic motives) on Voisava's page. You removed an entire paragraph that gives a summary of scholars work on Voisava's roots.

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Also, please note that Kanchov's stats were published across many pages, whereas you have cited the same page on countless articles. I corrected a few but it's hard to keep up. Best. --

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You should have informed from the start that you were simply doing something the Knowledge community has already done in the past instead of being just a Balkans-related phenomenon.

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I tagged this page R with possibilities in case it can be disambiguated for Bardino in the future to include towns and districts with this name, as well as people with the surname.

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my check for validity but apparently it wasn't enough... I should have checked Turkey's topic area but it just didn't came to my mind that moment. Just it is the Greek cities like

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as Pellumb Xhufi. You are one of the editors who has either used Xhufi as a source or expressed a concern about the use of Xhufi as a source. The place for the discussion is at

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Well if u didnt doubt that you wouldn't have asked Jingiby, and the sources were already part of the article for years. But youre new here so its no prob youll get the hang of it

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I appreciate that. If no one responds within a reasonable amount of time, carry on with your edits and if someone takes issues they would hopefully join the discussion then. --

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No worries man thanks for being reasonable. If you have any issue with my edits or ideas on how i can improve myself on here, please go ahead and write to me. Cheers mate

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While you're at it, could you perhaps move it to Insurgency in Karadak-Gollak? The editor who opposed the move was blocked and there appears to be consensus to move it.

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to Knowledge. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into

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my intention here, because, as you see, I simply do not forget, every minute that passes, the fact we are making edits in the wp:Balkans topic area where I have seen

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not meant to be used for that purpose on articles about cities. The articles need a cleanup from ethnic templates and categories, not adding more of them. ---

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But the spread of Greek in these villages belongs to the period after the Ottoman occupation, so it is a relatively late phenomenon that needs to be explained.

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Therefore, it is not very difficult to elucidate historically and linguistically the question of the language of the Greek-speaking villages of Dropull today.

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Hey Alltan! Could you please provide me with some excerpts or quotes from Demiraj's work if possible? I am mainly interested in reading his comments on the

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in which people live." It doesn't necessarily mean they founded it. If you could be so kind as to reinstate "Former Cham settlements", that would be nice.

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I have not broken 3RR, do not threaten me with reports. Petrovic is not a reliable source, neither is anyone who writes about conspiracies against Serbs.

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That's rather odd. Maybe he is talking about someplace else? I'm not sure either. I will check it again when I have time, thanks for the heads up mate.

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territory. You're welcome to get a second opinion from another reviewer, and i'd advise that before pursuing further research into the topic. Thanks,

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Yeah my bad, I messed up a redirect than it wouldn't move to what I wanted it too. I will be more careful in the future - thanks' for the heads up!

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the discussion has moved to the next stage. Participation is very low until now and far from representative of previous discussions and talk pages.

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With regards to your second question, where is the consensus discussed on wiki? The editor who opposed the move was blocked for a separate reason.

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remember seeing your around name for like a year or so.?) I am looking into working in the future together more productively. Have a good day. ---

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Can you kindly stop telling me to "forget it"? I just told you cities without historical significance should not be added, and I said

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Hello. I have no intention of reverting back and forth on articles that get 2 views per day. You seem to be new so please read

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but reverted. And not only categories but even templates such as the Template {{Cham Albanians}} which was added on Ioannina:

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My bad! I did not know that. I will make sure to properly explain whenever I translate in the future. Thank you for the tip!

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however other earlier censuses that may be findable to a speaker of Macedonian or Turkish. An article exists at mk-wiki

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Shaban Demiraj - "La situation ethnique-linguistique des habitants de Dropulli et de Vurgu au cours des siecles" (2008)

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Concerning these villages also, in the Ottoman register mentioned above there are registered typical Albanian names

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That he was a Mijak? Umm, its not a myth really its in the article itself too, Mijak Galički he calls himself.

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Thanks! I see, it does indeed seem that he is referring to the register of 1431-2 (i.e., the

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