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I think you're trying to change the wrong page, because this intro is to a category and shouldn't really be too elaborate. I think no one has changed it since like a year, becuase it jsut isn't important, so I reduced it to a minimum. A complete definition and anything else about physics should be
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When energy interacts with a bicycle, does this mean that the bicycle is beginning to move? No. When a person interacts with a bicycle (pushs the pedals) the bicycle begins to move. Energy is an abstract concept that does not interact with anything!
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What happened was a waste of time: Stu's request has been sitting here uncontested for two weeks until I acted on it. Then again no protest for 4 weeks. Then all of a sudden, within 2 days, everything is changed. I don't really see a need for this
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OK, I think I just whacked about 150 articles or so. I'm getting sleepy, time to go to bed, can someone review the remaining 70 or so, and see if they can prune another 20-40 away? Please leave a core of 10-40 articles covering general topics.
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One reason for creating the category was to make it easier to separate the articles that belonged into subcategories from those that genuinely pertain to physics in general. This made some sense because there were over 100 articles in
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I'm not sure what to do about this. I'd hate to further complicate our policies. But all I can think of at the moment is an amendment. Maybe we can work it out together so that it isn't a complication. How about something like this:
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I agree about square 1; that "introductory" is a good category for waves; and about the overlap. It doesn't mean that the distinction is completely unnecessary, though. But a merge to "basic concepts" seems to make sense. —
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Of course I understand not everybody agree with that. I let this topic open for discussion. And if nobody disagree or if a concensus is found I shall change the definition of physics accordingly.
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If there is already a discussion on the pertinent talk page then it should be kept there and the timing will be governed by that discussion.
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718:interaction
536:StuTheSheep
458:StuTheSheep
257:Ancheta Wis
243:StuTheSheep
1162:Categories
1139:. Cheers.
895:derivative
730:relativity
304:pipe trick
1071:Chemistry
978:Sebastian
922:Sebastian
871:Sebastian
826:Sebastian
752:Sebastian
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660:Sebastian
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487:Sebastian
465:Sebastian
1057:Feynman.
905:. Since
891:function
884:A propos
836:A propos
579:Deletion
329:. Now,
285:next 200
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36:scale.
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907:it is
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818:Waves
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653:Karol
593:Karol
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