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ensévelie sous les sables ; l'autre reste encore debout, & quoi qu'on ne voye point le piedestal sur lequel elle est posée, à cause des sables, qui l'environnent & le couvrent absolument, il est aisé de connoître en mesurant un des côtés de la base de celle, qui est renversée, que ce qu'on ne voit point de celle, qui est debout, n'est pas fort considérable. Les quatre côtés de ces Aiguilles sont couverts de figures hiéroglyphiques, dont malheureusement nous avons perdu la connoissance, & qui sans doute renfermoient des mystéres, qui resteront toujours ignorés.
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Quelques Auteurs anciens ont écrit, que ces deux Obélisques se trouvoient de leur tems dans le Palais de Cléopatre; mais ils ne nous disent point, qui les y avoit fait mettre. Il est à croire, que ces Monumens font bien plus anciens, que la Ville d'Aléxandrie, & qu'on les fit apporter de quelque
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Both obelisks were standing when 'Abd al-Latif visited Egypt towards the close of the XIIth century A.D., for, speaking of Alexandria, he says that he saw two obelisks in the middle of the building, which were larger than the small ones of Heliopolis, but smaller than the two large ones. He calls
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Some ancient authors have written that these two Obelisks were found in their time in the Palace of Cleopatra; but they do not tell us who had placed them there. It is believed that these monuments are much older than the City of Alexandria, and that they were brought from some place in Egypt, to
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Cleopatra's Needles: After this famous monument, the oldest and most curious in modern Alexandria are these two Needles, or Obelisks, which are attributed to Cleopatra, without anyone knowing too well on what basis. One is now overturned, and almost buried under the sands; the other still remains
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wrote "Within on the North towards the Sea are two square obeliskes each of one intire stone, full of Egyptian Hieroglyphicks, the one standing, the other fallen, I thinke either of them thrice as bigge as that at Constantinople, or the other at Rome, & therefore left behind as too heavy for
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Aiguilles de Cleopatre. Après ce fameux monument ce qu'il y a de plus ancien & de plus curieux dans l'Aléxandrie moderne, ce sont ces deux Aiguilles, ou Obélisques, que l'on attribue à Cleopatre, sans qu'on sçache trop bien sur quel fondement. L'une est aujourd'hui renversée, & presque
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endroit de l'Egypte, pour l'ornement de ce Palais. Cette conjecture a d'autant plus de fondement, qu'on sçait, que, du tems de la fondation d'Aléxandrie, on ne faisoit plus de ces Monumens couverts d'Hiéroglyphes, dont on avoit déja perdu long-tems auparavant & l'intelligence & l'usage
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to arrange for an equivalent monument in London. He stated that he was informed that the owner of the land in Alexandria where the British needle lay had proposed to break it up for building material. Alexander campaigned to arrange for the transportation. In 1876 he went to Egypt and met
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decorate this Palace. This conjecture is well founded, as we know that at the time of the foundation of Alexandria, these monuments covered with hieroglyphs were no longer made, the understanding and use of which had already been lost long before.
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Winkler, Ε. M. (1996-12-01). "Die ägyptischen Obeliske von New York und London - Einfluss der Umweltbedingungen auf die Verwitterung / Egyptian Obelisks (Cleopatra's Needles) of New York City and London - Environmental History and Weathering".
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them "Cleopatra's big needles." One of them fell down, probably during the earthquake which took place in 1301, when the Nile cast its boats a bowshot on the land and the walls of Alexandria were thrown down.
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transportation: neere these obeliskes, are the ruines of Cleopatraes Palace high upon the shore, with the private Gate, whereat she received her Marke Antony after their overthrow at Actium".
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A Relation of a Journey Begun an Dom. 1610. Foure Bookes Coutaining a Description of the Turkish Empire, of Aegypt, of the Holy Land, of the Remote Parts of Italt, and Islands Adjoyning
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The reference to Cleopatra claimed by Budge does not appear in available versions of Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi's work. See for example the 1800 bilingual version (both Latin and Arabic)
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described them as "Cleopatra's big needles". At this point, both obelisks were still standing – it is thought that the toppling of one of the obelisks happened during the
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for the United States remaining a friendly neutral as the European powers – France and Britain – maneuvered to secure political control of the Egyptian Government.
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Cleopatra's Needles and Other Egyptian Obelisks: A Series of Descriptions of All the Important Inscribed Obelisks, with Hieroglyphic Texts, Translations, Etc
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Merriam, A. C. (1883). The Caesareum and the Worship of Augustus at Alexandria. Transactions of the American Philological Association (1869-1896), 14, p. 8
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Voyage du sieur Paul Lucas, fait en MDCCXXIV, &c. par ordre de Louis XIV dans la Turquie, l'Asie, Sourie, Palestine, Haute & Basse Egypte, &c
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On September 7th 1940, the pedestal of the needle and one of it's surrounding sphinxes were scarred by debris cast by a nearby bomb, dropped by a
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during its rapid modernization. The London needle was presented to the United Kingdom in 1819, but remained in Alexandria until 1877 when Sir
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Images from 18th and 19th century Alexandria show two needles, one standing and the other fallen. The London needle was the fallen needle.
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wrote of his 1610 journey: "Of Antiquities there are few remainders: onely an Hieroglyphicall Obelisk of Theban marble, as hard welnigh as
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Vidi in Alexandria duos Obelifcos fuper littore maris, in medio munimenti, majores his quidem parvis, magnis autem illis duobus minores
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Damage to the obelisks by weather conditions in London and New York has been studied, notably by Professor Erhard M. Winkler of the
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Publius Rubrius Barbarus. Since at least the 17th century the obelisks have usually been named in the West after the
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Two prior suggestions had been made to transport the needle to London – in 1832 and in the 1850s after the
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Winkler, Erhard M. (1965). "Weathering Rates As Exemplified by Cleopatra's Needle in New York City".
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The New York obelisk, or, How Cleopatra's Needle came to New York and what happened when it got here
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Description de l'Egypte ... compose sur les memoires du de Maillet ancien consul de france au Caire
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Griechische und lateinische Inschriften zum Ptolemäerreich und zur römischen Provinz Aegyptus
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The earliest known post-classical reference to the obelisks was by the Cairo-based traveller
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derives from the French name, "Les aiguilles de Cléopâtre", when they stood in Alexandria.
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gave Britain the fallen obelisk as a gift. However, Britain's prime minister at the time,
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Modern photograph of the Alexandria location of the needles, now containing a statue of
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1554 map of Alexandria showing both Cleopatra's Needles (standing and fallen) in
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A Physician on the Nile: A Description of Egypt and Journal of the Famine Years
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the possible transportation of an obelisk from Egypt to the United States.
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ANNO XVIII CAESARIS BARBARVS PRAEF AEGYPTI POSVIT ARCHITECTANTE PONTIO
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Cleopatra's Needle: With Brief Notes on Egypt and Egyptian Obelisks
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Cleopatra's Needle: With Brief Notes on Egypt and Egyptian Obelisks
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Egypt and Its Betrayal: Personal Recollections by Elbert Farman
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The location is now the site of a statue of Egyptian statesman
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at the base of London's Cleopatra's Needle. The scars on the
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The removal of the obelisks from Egypt was presided over by
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Abdollatiphi Historiæ Ægypti compendium,: Arabice et Latine
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Needles from the Nile: Obelisks and the Past as Property
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Le Mascrier, Jean-Baptiste; de Maillet, Benoît (1735).
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The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia
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Close-up of one side of New York's Cleopatra's Needle
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as " most striking monuments of ancient Alexandria".
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Ancient Egyptian obelisks in New York City and London
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Index


Victoria Embankment

Central Park
Metropolitan Museum of Art
ancient Egyptian obelisks
London
New York City
Heliopolis
Cairo
New Kingdom
18th dynasty
Thutmose III
19th dynasty
Ramesses II
Caesareum of Alexandria
prefect of Egypt
Ptolemaic
Cleopatra VII
Pompey's Pillar
David Roberts
Egypt and Nubia
Isma'il Pasha
Khedivate of Egypt
William James Erasmus Wilson
United States Consul General at Cairo
Henry Honychurch Gorringe
Victoria Embankment
Central Park
Metropolitan Museum of Art

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