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1498:The Odyssey
1334:Halitherses
1125:Thrasymedes
1097:of Phaeacia
1037:of Phaeacia
967:(swineherd)
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336:'s single "
319:(1922). In
311:James Joyce
285:Victor Hugo
223:liberty cap
156:emblem book
140:Alexandreis
2181:Categories
1671:The Cantos
1549:Literature
1506:Ulysses 31
1479:The Return
1455:Sans plomb
1329:Eurylochus
1297:Polyphemus
1244:Eurymachus
1224:Amphinomus
1219:Amphimedon
1070:Stratichus
1021:Antiphates
979:(goatherd)
977:Melanthius
971:Philoetius
961:(musician)
917:Telemachus
893:Characters
812:The Sirens
787:Polyphemus
689:2023-12-26
593:2017-02-14
403:References
334:The Police
2088:Telemachy
1815:(c. 1635)
1798:Paintings
1749:(musical)
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1415:L'Odissea
1379:Charybdis
1369:Polydamna
1359:Mesaulius
1349:Kikonians
1319:Eupeithes
1304:Demodocus
1254:Perimedes
1234:Ctesippus
1171:Leucothea
1115:Idomeneus
1106:Agamemnon
1093:Princess
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947:Eurycleia
941:Autolycus
901:House of
822:Thrinacia
797:Telepylos
674:Kanavus.
447:Book 12,
109:whirlpool
87:noted by
81:Charybdis
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2187:Dilemmas
2126:Contempt
1790:" (song)
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1762:Penelope
1658:" (1842)
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1324:Euryalus
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931:(mother)
929:Anticlea
925:(sister)
911:Penelope
903:Odysseus
366:See also
316:Ullysses
242:A later
114:Odysseus
101:Calabria
95:between
2165:Odyssey
2136:(novel)
2081:Related
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1706:Cyclops
1656:Ulysses
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1471:Keyhole
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1364:Polites
1314:Elpenor
1214:Agelaus
1206:Suitors
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1110:Mycenae
1065:Perseus
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965:Eumaeus
959:Phemius
923:Ctimene
884:Odyssey
832:Scheria
775:Ismarus
763:Odyssey
718:Odyssey
683:YouTube
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508:pp.95-7
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445:Odyssey
377:Dilemma
356:titled
342:Trivium
154:in his
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2144:(film)
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1517:(1997)
1509:(1981)
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1482:(2024)
1474:(2012)
1466:(2000)
1384:Sirens
1374:Scylla
1309:Dolius
1264:Others
1249:Leodes
1166:Hermes
1161:Helios
1146:Athena
1141:Aeolus
1120:Mentes
1084:Sparta
1051:Nestor
1030:Aretus
985:(maid)
953:Mentor
913:(wife)
837:Ithaca
827:Ogygia
792:Aeolia
648:online
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190:(1793)
126:Adagia
97:Sicily
77:Scylla
48:Being
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1903:Study
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1648:Poems
1637:Circe
1407:Films
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1055:Pylos
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245:Punch
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