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They can. Not everything is a subspecies, and doesn't have a trinomial name. Most subspecies exist mostly (or sometimes only) because a zoologist wanted their name on something, but it was far too similar for his peers to recongnize a new species. If you catch an
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The section within this article is about turkey as food. This is a picture of turkey served as a dish -- that is, turkey as food. QED, relevant. The picture does not advertise a restaurant; people looking for restaurants are not going to visit
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Under the intelligence section, it says that turkies are actually just as smart as ie chickens. However, this is purely OR, but I got several baby chickens and two baby turkies, and the chickens gobbled up their grain, but the turkies didn't eat any of it and stared dumbly at it even when my father
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Excuse me, if you want to take out the butchering section because it doesn't fit the rules or isn't cited or whatever, that's your prerogative, but it is *not* a copyright violation, and frankly I'm rather insulted at being accused of that. I learned how to butcher a turkey from a friend, came home
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There is no language in the statement that turkey is used in cold cuts on "Boxing Day" that indicates that this is a UK tradition/use only. First, what the hell is "Boxing Day?" Do you mean St. Stephen's Day perhaps? Second, if we are going to list turkey tradition by country, shouldn't it's use
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This is a fairly minor point, I understand, but should the caption above the main image really say genetically modified? Some may understand this to mean that the domestic turkey is the result of centuries of selective breeding and care by farmers, but that makes it a synonym to the definition of
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I think Turkey (Food) should be it's own article and obviously link back to the domesticated turkey (and probably the wild turkey) article. A person looking for info on Turkey as a food, may not be all that interested in breeding, slaughtering ect. Turkey as a food item could include more indepth
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Removed this sentence (which has been in the article since June 2005, when the article had no references), since it apparently refers to wild turkeys and not domestic: "Turkey was one of the many game species hunted by early
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to be implying (again by innuendo) that 1) the FAWC standard given in S2 is a typical area-per-pound (still not actually stated), and 2) that typical/FAWC area-per-pound makes turkeys have to touch each other, and 3) turkeys touching each other is
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I removed the link to newsmax.com as it is rather more a polemic against American civilization than an informative piece on the wild turkey. I have replaced it with a link to a kids page I found using "all about turkeys" as a Google search.
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