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780:"Precipitation (rain and snow) is low. The tundra is sometimes called a frozen desert. Soil a meter below ground and deeper is permanently frozen and called permafrost." Other might disagree, but I want to read about the specific subject, not be provided with a primer for basic geography. The blue links are there to help if its not clear. I'd prefer ""Precipitation is low. The underlying permafrost does not allow water to drain easily through soil, and it collects in shallow pools.". There are other examples. ("While icebergs are composed of fresh water, pack ice is frozen sea water. ") Optional for GA, required if you are looking to make FA (IMHO). 792:
has what looks like a redundant phrase. You could be more succinct and state "(More detailed information for 73 communities in the province is available from the Environment Canada website.)" DONE:"2°C (36°F)offshore." missing space. "(2 to 5 F°)" degree wrong side of 'F'. DONE:"marking the worst Canadian marine" This may be Canadian English, but GB English would be "making this the worst". DONE:"reporting an average annual wind speeds more than 20 kilometers" & "Summer months average of 187 hours" poor syntax. DONE:"with March being worst." "with the highest frequency being in March" might be better.
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excellent but the first para of "Natural resources" lacks one. DONE:References: Generally in good shape except no. 36, which needs wikifying. As a courtesy to users with low bandwidth and browsers that don't show the icon it is helpful to insert "(pdf)" e.g. " "Marine Casualty Report for the Ocean Ranger" (pdf) ".
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kilometers" might work better. DONE:"the scouring effect of recent glaciers during the ice ages." If you mean the Pleistocene ice ages, say so. DONE:"Newfoundland's nickname, "The Rock", is at least in part due to the ice ages." Possibly better to say "the impact of the ice ages" or "the impact of glaciation".
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for examples. DONE:"(Braya longii) and Fernald’s braya (B. fernaldii)" Always italicise scientific names. DONE:"The braya population". The red link is OK but it should appear the first time the word does in the earlier sentence. DONE:"The province of Newfoundland and Labrador, with many partners" If
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DONE:"This is due to the ice age, when flying insects, birds, and other mammals crossed the sea ice that formed between the island and the mainland." I think you mean that biodivdersity was reduced by the impact of the ice and the difficulty of re-colonising post ice age. It sounds a little as if the
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This article is far too long and contains much superfluous and/or inaccurate information (for example "Amongst the fastest in the world are the western glaciers of Newfoundland, up to 7 km per year " This is utterly FALSE!). It is very difficult to read. There are many misused words and poor sentence
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DONE:What is "Dfb" (also in lead). DONE:"These graphs were created using data from Environment Canada. More detailed information and information for 73 communities in the province is available from this government website." The first bit isn't relevant as it appears in the references, and the second
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DONE:"Many birds migrate to this region in spring to lay their eggs and raise their young before escaping south to warmer areas for the winter." To be consistent you should name two or three prominent species or types. DONE:"though the deciduous white birch, trembling aspen (Populus tremuloides) and
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DONE :"Labrador is an irregular shape: the western part of its border with Quebec is drainage divide for the Labrador Peninsula." Missing word after "Quebec is"? DONE :The lead does not mention the substantial Natural resources section. DONE :It does mention the main towns, but then this information
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structure. It appears that most of the article is poorly paraphrased from the noted references. I will attempt to clean it up. How did this article get rated as A-class on the quality scale? I have a personal interest in seeing the quality of this article being improved since I am from Newfoundland.
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DONE:"was once part of southwestern Europe or Northern Africa." Useful to specify when e.g. "in the Late Pre-Cambrian". DONE:"To the east is a depression (a graben) about 30 kilometers (20 miles) wide" includes two sets of brackets close together, which isn't ideal. "a graben depression about 30
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2. It is factually accurate and verifiable: YES:"at Mistaken Point, where rocks containing probably the oldest metazoan fossils in North America and the most ancient deep-water marine fossils in the world " - Big claims. Does the reference confirm this? DONE:The inline citations are generally
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and auk. This completely ignores the contradictory systems used by the different zoologists and botanists, but provides a consistent approach. Given MOS's timidity you are effectively free to come up with your own, but it should be internally consistent. See
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DONE:"The average iceberg weight in the Grand Banks area is nearly one to two" one, or two? DONE:"off-shore,oil platforms" missing space DONE:Labrador Current is linked twice or more and there are several other examples. Please check them all.
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I am not sure why you removed the sentence about bird life, which is now notable by its absence. All I think it needs is the original wording plus "Examples include flamingos, turkeys and condors." or whatever species are commonly
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the island during the glaciation. DONE:"Two animals formerly resident in Newfoundland have been de6clared" - typo. DONE:Species names are inconsistent e.g. "the great auk, a flightless seabird, and the Newfoundland Wolf".
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is pretty useless here. The system I (and a few others) have used successfully in articles that cover a wide variety of genera is to capitalise if it is a species, and use lower case for non-species descriptions i.e.
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is not expanded on in the Human Geography section. (See also Other facts section) DONE:Is there nothing worth expanding on later in the text about the innumerable islands e.g. possibly
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Also, Mink is linked twice and in the final sentence in the Biosphere section 'inhabit' appears twice and I think you mean that the falcons 'nest in' rather than inhabit steep cliffs.
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DONE::b) link Bell Island in the image caption. DONE::c) The Polar Bear image should link to the relevant article and ideally provide the relevant scientific name in brackets i.e.
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946:"The average iceberg weight in the Grand Banks area is nearly one to two hundred thousand tonnes (220,000 tons)." This isn't fixed. 666: 1841: 1613: 1645: 1557: 1427: 1323: 1307: 1167: 506: 480: 1826: 1791: 1656:
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and part of southwestern Europe or Northern Africa about 400,000,000 years ago." This should probably be "is mostly folded
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Please check new ref 31 for a duplicate period, re-read the new sentence in the lead and attend to the trees (above).
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As its been over a week with no action let's say that the changes need to be substantially complete by 23rd July.
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The species issue isn't addressed. It is inconsistent to have Great Auk and sei whale, Gray Wolf and hooded seal.
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mountain ash are also present." Why does trembling aspen suddenly get a scientific name? Again, be consistent.
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CAN'T FIND ONE NOW, LATER?::d) A tolt image might be interesting, although it is by no means a requirement.
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DONE:Not really necessary. The timezone is just repetition and the rest could be merged into Human Geog.
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and was once part of southwestern Europe or Northern Africa about 400 million years ago."" According to
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I found some typos etc. in the new text, which I have fixed. I'll have another quick read thru'.
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The article is comprehensive in coverage but there is a fair bit of tidying up to do for a pass.
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Finally, I only just noticed that biosphere needs a sentence or two in the revised lead.
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a) please don't specify image sizes, unless there is a specific reason to do so - see
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balsam fir and black spruce, white birch, trembling aspen and mountain ash
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the split occurred 225 million years ago, although that's an aside.
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There are 4 refs (28, 29, 39 and 42) without a publisher.
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mink - probably not European but OK if you are not sure.
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