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Halloween? Wes Craven had been making horror films long before Carpenter's Halloween, such as The Last House on the Left and The Hills Have Eyes. NOES has a much greater resemblance to these films than to Halloween, and who is to say why NOES was so popular? If anything, Nightmare probably rejuvinated a wilting genre!
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Halloween, like stated in the lead paragraph, had a major affect on countless horror films of the 1980s and 90s. Friday the 13th director Sean S Cunningham even stated he owes most of Friday’s success to Halloween. I could find a relevant source if need
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There are a ton of factors regarding the ascetics of the film, lighting, camera angles, etc, which need to be noted and are not mentioned in the article. I am willing to do this I just need confirmation and the go-ahead and I will start, but I don't want to do it without consent from the
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This is more of a horror movie than a slasher film. The first teen slasher film was probably "Don't Answer the Phone" (1980), which has all the common elements. That film may not be counted counted as the poineer because its director, Robert Hammer, was actually a modest bookkeeper who didn't like
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The ending is not the only one where you see
Michael Myers' face. You also see his face in a shot where he gets on top of the Nurse and Loomis' car but you can't see it clearly. You can see it if you pause it. Also, another shot where you see Michael Myers' face is if you look closely when he gets
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Same type of real life situation was un-earthed in NOIDA, which is a small
Industrial Suburb near to Delhi. From 1st Jan 2007 to 15 Jan 2007, nearly 40 bodies of the teenages, young boys and girls were found in and around Pandher's (Main accused person's name) house near Nithari village of NOIDA.
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Under the "influence" section, it says: "The Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on Elm Street films, and countless other slasher films, owe much of their success (if not inspiration) to
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I really like Halloween, but I don't think that $ 325,000 to $ 47 million can compare to the $ 35,000 to $ 150,000,000 of the Blair Witch Project while also independent is also in the same genre. It beats Halloween on gross and overall
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When this article first passed FA, the original text read: "making it one of the most successful independent films in history". A later editor changed it to say "the most successful independent film ever", which of course is erroneous.
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Rumors have been going around that there is going to be a movie of which Freddie,Leatherface,Jason and Michael would clash in an epic battle. Do you think it's true? If it is do you think it should be made? tell me.
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that are for the 1978 film, and none that i could count that are for the remake. Such page moves are only necessary where genuine confusion could arise. I suggest moving the article back. Cheers.
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Someone has changed the entire page to a link to a racist website. This needs to be fixed. 21:41, 16 January 2007
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