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Just to clarify my recent rv of this article, removing the pgph on King Harald V's bloodline controversy (via his father King Olav V): this subject matter properly belongs in the Olav V article (where, indeed, it is discussed at length). If deemed necessary, one might perhaps make a small note about
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