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Lamjung, a small village in central nepal. (probably a more likely event would be the ancestors of present day shah rulers of nepal started as powerful village chieftains or tribe leaders who managed to acquire an army of some size). the author of this page has mentioned "The region was given its name after the Gurkhas had established their control of these areas. Gurkha, also spelt as Gorkha, are people from Nepal who take their name from the legendary eighth century Hindu warrior-saint Guru Gorakhnath. Gurkhas claim descent from the Hindu Rajputs and Brahmins of Northern India, who entered modern Nepal from the west." however, it is an established fact that the rulers of gorkha before ruling gorkha had ruled lamjung. why did not the rulers name their original place of rule as gorkha? instead if the authors' claim is to be believed it appears the gurkhas first settled the present day gorkha. even before the shah rule was established in gorkha the place was named as such and there were other minor leaders (kings??) who had control over the same territory. its a total misintepration of history that the history of kathmandu valley is considered history of nepal. there were some influential kings in western part of nepal (malla kingdom of west nepal, kings of palpa etc. just to name a few). kathmandu was instead a small city state and the history, hence, mentioned in this article deals with only the history of this city and should not be interprated as history of nepal. the article as well as some others associated with Rana regime and the rule is totally biased. the author mentions "Stability was restored after 1846 when the Rana family gained power, entrenched itself through hereditary prime ministers, and reduced the monarch to a figurehead". what i do not understand is how was the rana regime and the country at that period stable? there were numerous incidents of assasinations and politics of Nepal was highly vlunerable. there was no economic, social and political stability at all. i thought stability is a state where things go by rules and a system is well maintained. in the autocracy there was no rule and no system, always a bloody war among the rulers themselves for money and power was going on. well, if this article is talking about the stability of nepal (the mountains, rocks), it has been stable for some millenia now. the article, hence, has been highly influenced by the authors' personal background and has been biased. the fact that the author is descendent of Rana ruler has been influential in much of the work he has contributed. i m related to the ruling clans of nepal as well, however, i would not involve myself in supporting unestablished facts and twisting the history. having a desire to have a "grand lineage" is one thing and the truth is other. this wikipedia is supposed to share knowledge, lets keep it that way. lets keep the facts coming not as a means to toot our own horns but to reveal the truth. i, however, appreciate the authors work in gathering information for us all.
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Kautilya Arthashastra had mentioned this term more than 2000 years ago. All the Kathmandu based kingdoms have used this term for the lands which they ever ruled over. So, Nepal means different territories at different times. Its like study of Roman or British empire. While mentioning them, we just mention a territory when it is under the Roman/British empire and not before or after that. Well, coming onto 3 kingdoms, Nepal during Malla era meant the lands ruled by the Mallas. It was NOT just Kathmandu valley (Kathmandu valley was called Nepal only in the Shah and Rana era) but Kathmandu valley and the surrounding areas which roughly correspond to Bagmati zone at the present. So, by that definition of Nepal, Nepal was split into three kingdoms which operated in a sort of confederation manner (eg- the 3 kingdoms were united in fighting the Gorkhas when they first attacked the valley and the kings of Kathmandu and Patan were protected by Bhaktapur's ruler after they lost their kingdom to Gorkha). For a more detailed study of the lands which are presently under Nepal, I think we need to have separate regional history of present day Nepal. Thank you.--
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