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But I believe that it needs a copy-edit before post it on the article. Also I found something helpful at GBooks: "In "Ironic," there is no world outside the car's windows, just the different sides of Alanis — a set of imagery that suited her self-help-language damaged songs. Morissette may have kept
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Great work, I copy-edited it a little. As for the book source, it doesn't talk much further about it, the rest goes.. "but 'Ironic' strikes a distant similarity with the previous one, both being that the central character is always the one who walks alone." You can incorporate the music video
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When you add in prose something like "...and, in fact, the song gives an "unironic" sense..." this makes it sound like some one else is quoting it, rather than "you" paraphrasing a written prose. I think it would be better to phrase it as: "The song's usage of the word "ironic" attracted media
274:*Per the writing section, it doesnot state that "Ironic" was written in 15 minutes, it states that within 15 minutes, they started writing. So rather it means that their inspiration, creativity flourish took place within 15 minutes. So the second sentence needs to be rephrased.
1486:(2004), where she studied how the audience may pay attention to the lyrics of the song in a music video. Vernallis added that "Ironic" music video functions as a limited example of how the meaning of a song's lyrics become "inaccessible" when they are videotaped and televised.
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Not needed actually seeing that it goes into the description and analysis of the other song, with "Ironic" added only as a comparison. Anyways, I'm happy to see the developments and it can pass as a GA now. Congratulations. —
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idiocy here is a noun, whose adverb is idiotic, while idiot here will be an adjective. The reviewer pointed out the idiotic lyrics, while calling it idiot would imply that the reviewer is describing the whole song's idiocy. —
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You did not get my point. In prose you are wikilinking it to one publisher, while in the source to another. Well none of them is correct. Musicnotes gives the publisher name as
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229:*My only qualm is the alternate cover, it is not discussed anywhere in the article, nor does it significantly add anything to the article (a silhouette of Morissette performing live is replaceable). Remove it.
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gives a detailed critical analysis of the scenes and the detachment of the song from the video. You can incorporate them for improveing the video section, which seems rather pale considering the song was so
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1338:*My problem with the content is that its not in any way legacy, flat out. Cover version, parodies, etc are not exactly how the song affected society, which determines its legacy. For eg: songs like "
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also gave us pop's greatest parlour game, with spot the genuine irony in "Ironic" (we go for the ten thousand spoons line)." The bolded "it" cannot be referred to "Ironic". 04:01, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
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The critical reception part of the song needs to be enhanced, then merge it with the commercial para. Next move everything about the music video in the third para. At present it doesn't look nice.
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I've re-re-re...titled the section to "Incorporations in the media and parodies", if you believe it needs to be re-changed notify me. Also, I splitted the SSM stuff. 20:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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That list was promoted two years ago and FL criteria is much strong, not making allowance for sources like
Rockonthenet. As for the source used in this article, it can easily be replaced by
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The part about the Aussy charting can be moved with the next para. North
America chartings + Rest of the world, is how generally we keep it since NA contributes more charts than the others.
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Erlewine did not pick "Ironic" as an album highlight, he mentioned it as a track pick, which mainly refers to tracks which can work indivitually, mainly as singles.
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Only part where I see anything to do with legacy is the same-sex marriage support. Maybe you can expand on it? Move the other infos in the respective sections.
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I need to read it, understand it and incorporate this information with the section, and some other information I may found. 05:41, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
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956:*You are using both () and braces. Select one.
1500:"The Work of Director Stéphane Sednaoui (2005)"
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1551:: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Inc. p. 310.
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499:*Song sample rationale, fine.
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