Talk:Main Page/Archive 75

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And probably the only way to state it without someone seeing it as biased would be to remove the true meaning from what is happening. For example even the use of the word "sides" gives me some problem since Lebanon is not at war, Israel is a side, but Hizbollah is a faction not a nation, so which is the side, the headline implies that this is a war between nations, that everyone killed on one side is part of a group as opposed to the other. I would rather "total dead and injured mount in Lebanon and North Israel" but someone somewhere would state that this created an equality between the two sides. Another statement like "Israel is destroying Lebanon" would be fine by me, but would be likely viewed as NOPV by 50% of the readers in the US. And Hezbollah is still holding 2 Israeli troops, if they handed them over that might end it, Hezhollah is also a guilty party, how do you seperate those killed in fighting for Hezbollah from innocent civilians? Its just not possible to describe this in any human form without some subjective perspective. This is simply a cornerstone of modern philosophy since the early 20th Century. Its strange that the only place anywhere I read anything like NOPV is in Knowledge. Any freshman in critical methods, history, or philosophy would know the complexity of such a claim, and yet Knowledge takes it for granted, its almost never questioned which is really strange. Are the claims I read that Knowledge is a cult dominated by followers of Rand to be taken seriously, it seems like it. As for the war in Lebanon and Northern Israel, having been to both places, here is the headline "humans continue to show what asses they are, innocent people die!" --

3636:(which I strongly disliked), but it still isn't very good. It contains a great deal of wasted space, superfluous decorations, and project information that belongs on separate pages. The static and dynamic content is erratically mixed, and viewing the featured sections now requires even more scrolling. Just as before, much of the important text is significantly smaller than that of articles, which makes it less accessible to many people. (I have good eyesight, and it's uncomfortably small for me.) I hate the rounded corners (which the previous design also incorporated). They're jagged (and therefore ugly), and they don't display in non-Mozilla software. It seems unadvisable to include deliberate inconsistencies across common browsers, and this element was soundly rejected during the English main page redesign process. — 2485:

vital world news (such as the Italian soccer teams being relegated out of Serie A) while often important American events (particularly political and business ones) go unmentioned. Again, this is not an outright condemnation, but I was wondering if this was a deliberate attempt to be more intercontinental, if there was a conscious attempt to place non-American news items over American news items, or if this was simply circumstantial. I guess my major complaint is that America is obviously part of the world, too, and while we shouldn't necessarily be held up above other nations in terms of newsworthinses, neither should we be deliberately neglected.

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the cut-off at 50,000 articles would substantially address the problem by including more of the other major Wikipedias. (In fact 30 or 40,000 might be a better choice, but that number seems a little too arbitrary). I suspect there is a strong correlation between usage of en: Knowledge by a particular language group and the size of that language's Knowledge (Punjabi certainly bears that out) so this would also mean that the displayed Wikipedias were more representative of - and useful for - our front page readership. Here's how it would look:

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and for each continent news reports, then subdivided to smaller categories like countries. Will this be a good idea to try out? Knowledge wants to expand news coverage and generate discussions to produce good results in the edits and addition of new information of encyclopediac value. Not all news reports are going to appear drastic to get considered of historic importance, but we made Knowledge to have a world scene, not only Italian soccer (football) because the U.S. is in war as some people claimed and I just don't buy that. --

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would seem to meet many wiki-ideals, but my experience of having many articles on DYK is that they simply do not get edits. The topics on which Knowledge no longer has an article are inevitably on increasingly minor topics and the DYK facts are usually so obscure that the "Did you know...?" phrasing seems facetious. I don't think it would hurt to replace DYK with an FL on one day a week. That said, I realise the inertia with the front page is enormous, and I'm pessimistic.

1943: 6785:- are the values "More than 350 Lebanese have been killed in the 11 days of violence, many of them civilians. Thirty-four Israelis have been killed, including 15 civilians killed by rockets fired by Hezbollah into Israel." That's a factor of 10:1. The phrasing on the front page is misleading. "ounting military and civilian casualties, particularly on the Lebanaese side." would be a fairer reflection of the true state of affairs. 1085: 6446:

page. The last version (that D. Levy managed to revert, fortunately) was useless, magalomanic, politically incorrect, insensible, impractical, ignorant, against the general wikipedia-spirit, and against users switching between several language versions. I am mentioning this here, because I see that the adherents of this side have not noticed this discussion and are nor so loud as one overly active user above.

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did you know and on this day (inclusive of news) in a much better format than we have. I believe it's becoming hard to keep the quality of items up due to there being a limited amount of quality articles left to feature. Reducing those to one a day would help this. They've suceeded in taking the news ticker aspect right out of the front page, which removes the current conflict ITN has with wikinews. --

2046:). The featured article is the most popular thing on the main page after the search box (the developers did measurements to this effect last year). This suggestion is bad beyond words. Lists do not make good content to link to - a list is not something that will attract someone's attention, and putting it there at the deteriment of something that is already popular is a non-starter. 6215:

towards the idea of ordering by English name for the language, in both of the two sections. Ordering the second by size seems odd if several languages are in the first section instead. Ordering the first section by Knowledge size makes a degree of sense but would make it harder to find a particular language in the list. Sorting by language code isn't obvious to the general reader.

5862:- there are some stats on this somewhere, and I particularly remember that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have extremely low readership. This is presumably one of the reasons the Punjabi Knowledge is currently so dire. While I like the idea that highlighting the Punjabi edition helps counter systemic bias, it's very unlikely to actually draw in new editors. English Knowledge probably 5364:: consisting of opinion, no more, no less. I could very well write up a page saying the opposite: work on consensus if there is disagreement, and then implement changes, especially on high profile pages that aren't true articles. For what it's worth, I disagree with the change: the template was fine before; it was concise enough, while demonstrating more of the other languages. 2163:

with their numerous links connect with a huge amount of content. Some people find lists as interesting as the articles, and lists are as much a part of what Knowledge is about as are the articles. Certainly, not every FL is worthy of the front page, but there are many that are. An occasional posting on the front page won't hurt anything, and might even be helpful. --

3590:. Whether that effect is desired here or not, their layout is excellent--far better than ours is or ever will be (after all, with a community as large as the English Knowledge's, big changes to the Main Page are unlikely to ever meet approval thanks to our desire to do things democratically, as if a bunch of yes/no opinions ever produced anything innovative). — 226:. Knowledge isn't the forum for discussing who's to blame in this very messy and prolonged "trouble" (to borrow from the N.Ireland vernacular). The current entry says "Israeli troops launch a military offensive into Lebanon (pictured) in response to the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah." which is the current state of affairs. -- 3268:/Dinner_plain_summer_pano02.jpg/450px-Dinner_plain_summer_pano02.jpg". To see it, people should either disable their ad blocking software, or we should move the image to a new name (caching paths are determined by file name). Roughly one image in 256 has this issue and developers have refused to change the caching system to resolve it. 2147:"Media of the day" is a nice idea, but it makes far more sense for the Commons' main page than it does for ours. I think that we should allow that site to maintain a unique identity. Otherwise, we'll only contribute to the notion that it's nothing more than a place for the other projects to store their media. — 6929:

The ITN that says "Former Khmer Rouge commander Ta Mok, scheduled to stand trial in 2007 for crimes against humanity in Democratic Kampuchea, dies in a military hospital in Phnom Penh, Cambodia." is very unclear. When I had read it, I thought the trial was going to be in Democratic Kampuchea. I would

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Nothing in the statement implies equality of the losses, only that both "sides" are suffering "increasing" loss, which is fact if you accept there are two sides, which I do not. Again this points to the idiotic concept of NOPV, how do you state something on this without someone seeing it as biased.

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I'm wondering if it might be good to put the link to the wikipidias in a slightly bigger font than the link to the en article about the language. Aside from making it clearer what links to the other wikipedias, it also could fill up the white space in the second line that looks pretty awkward in many

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Firstly I think the it.wp mp is too cluttered. But I like the functional idea of the Contents down the right column and the content down the left side, this means those looking for information have a starting point. Although the search box should probably be associated with the contents. -- The first

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Yes, you've stated your votes, but you haven't backed them up with rationale. The last rationale was about why "fitting everything onto one page" is a bad idea... but nobody was suggesting we do that; you've lumped my suggestion into one extreme (presenting countless links on the main page) to uphold

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As the original poster, I just want to say that first, I do not think Marshall Faulk's retirement deserves a news notice any more than I think Italian football scandals do. Secondly, I think that first presidential veto by George W. Bush, on no less a grand subject than stem cell research, deserves a

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You don't visit enough then mate. Knowledge can be very American biased at times. The Italian football story is huge but as football is not an American sport you pull that one out as meaningless. Not every political movenment in America needs mentioning, or business for that matter. Today for example

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I realize Knowledge is the world's encyclopedia, but there is a decided lack of American news ever showing up in the "In the News" section. At first I assumed it was just the coincidental result of a few visits to the front page, but too often I see what I might consider "irrelevant" or at least less

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Indeed. It is a near-policy convention to always indicate that something is fictitious in order to prevent confusion that people unfamiliar with the subject may otherwise have. (For example, Star Wars-related articles often start with "In the fictional Star Wars Universe" even though there is no such

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wrong, if that! Would you mind updating it to my suggestion? Plus or minus the "other languages...", as you see fit. I'd be bold and do it myself but I'm not an admin. It looks a little scrawny at the moment, which can't be helping your argument. There's also the question of ordering - I am drifting

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In general, each article in the English-language Knowledge lists all of its versions in other languages. I don't see why the main page should depart from this rule. The "in other languages" list is a useful navigation feature. It is particularly useful to people who are not monolingual. Those people

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I don't believe that such a strategy should be applied to the main page. It's viewed by many as "official" (so revert wars are embarrassing), and only sysops are capable of reverting. Unlike many talk pages, this one is read by a large number of people, so there should be no shortage of feedback.

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People usually comment on a change when they notice the change. Invoking the change early is not done as a means to say that the change should be finalized early, but simply to get the attention of anyone interested. Otherwise, we are only getting the attention of anyone who happens to frequent this

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I just found out that my unicode font doesn't include Bengali and Punjabi. That's 17 list items, such an awkward number. But yes I like your de-bias-ing rationale behind it. I do believe that we should put less emphasis on being the repository of links when there's a perfectly good portal for all of

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and they've addressed this with the selections directly below the welcome bar. The community links below are probably a good idea, pointing people off in appropriate directions. All the links included there would need to be thought through and justified well. -- Then they've put their featured item,

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I'm not saying you're lying. I'm saying that I get the impression that you alter the reasons behind your statements as it becomes necessary for you to do so. I considered the layout of the news section to be part of the overall "layout", while you seem to have chosen a more restrictive definition of

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Why on Earth shouldn't the Italian football story be there? Three of the biggest teams in one of the biggest leagues of the biggest sport in the world have been found guilty of match fixing, a crime not only punishable by the football authorities but by the law. People could go to jail for this and

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As someone who has shepherded both a list and article to feature status, I find Raul's comment to be a bit harsh. I think there are some very interesting featured lists, and I would like there to be a forum where they are more featured. Why? For many reasons: FL's show what a list can become, and

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It is the absence of qualification that leads to the implication of "equality of loss." Re the rest of it, of course there will always be some who find any statement on a topic like this non-neutral—but that doesn't invalidate the NPOV policy. In its absence, it's hard to see how drafting sentences

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Good idea...the internet is a global service, so I believe someone in India and Pakistan who is fluent in Punjabi can help out improve their language edition. What is pa-wiki anyway? someone please explain that one. I think Punjabi uses the Arabic script, although I might be wrong as many languages

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The obvious solution is the reversion to a multi-tiered "quantity of articles"-based setup, but with a threshold much higher than "1,000" (but lower than "50,000"). "10,000" presently seems reasonable, but this can be occasionally increased (along with the other two tiers) as all of the Wikipedias

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In the U.S., Russia, India and China, where universal language literacy is high, many of their citizens may preferably use Knowledge in other minor languages. Also to note English, as well Chinese, Russian, French and Spanish are taught in classes, and students may want to use that language edition

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The relative importance of languages is a frequently contentious political issue. I hope that Knowledge does not have an opinion on the issue. The size of Knowledge's various language editions, and alphabetic order by ISO code, might be the only appropriate ways for Knowledge to rank languages. For

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It still stands that our main page is highly oriented toward praising the work of editors, and not oriented toward helping readers find content quickly and easily. Instead, we shift that responsibility onto sub-pages that are ridiculous jokes. We should take back that responsibility, keep this page

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I couldn't disagree more. Our main page is less flashy, but all of the information is laid out in a logical, accessible manner. The Italian main page places far more emphasis on looking pretty than on functioning as a useful gateway to an encyclopedia. "Innovation" doesn't mean "abandoning sound

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I object to the last comment...Knowledge holds no bias against any country. The purpose of an online encyclopedia is international and will not focus on one single country, whether the U.S. or Angola or Panama or so on. I agree that American news reports should have a special place on the main page

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Because, to (I'd imagine about) 70% of Knowledge users, its some random crime about three obscure teams playing obscure sport in an unknown league of some unimportant country. To said 70% of Knowledge's user base, San Franscisco Outfielder Barry Bonds not being indicted and the imminent retiring of

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It's true, the name "Featured List" is largely a misnomer. Having nursed one list article through the demanding FL process, I was left with a feeling of "What now?" The answer seemed to be "Not much", which I found disappointing having worked on the page for so long. I think DYK is a great idea and

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article (the salary) was not updated. This is the sort of thing that justifiably gives Knowledge a bad reputation. What is the point of saying that our articles can be more up-to-date than others, when no-one checks to see if they are up-to-date? Can processes be put in place to stop this happening

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If not, then what foundation is there for your argument against listing the largest languages in the world? Sure, "100 million" may not be a perfectly accurate number, but we have to draw the line somewhere based on the evidence at hand. "FUD, FUD, FUD" accomplishes nothing. We should be revealing

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get more traffic from Hebrew-speakers than Punjabi-speakers, despite the gap in numbers of speakers. On the other hand, we obviously can't use readership-by-language stats directly to pick the selected Wikipedias. May I please make a strong suggestion that would substantially address this? Setting

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More like 35%. The problem with your argument is that it would take far more than adding another 20 to get anywhere close to even 70 or 80% of the population, since the number of speakers drops rather quickly once you get below 100 million. Just out of curiosity, how much of the population did the

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I would prefer it very much if, on arriving on the Wiki site, the cursor is already in the search field. That way, I could start typing immediately, without first cliking into it with my mouse. I know it is just a small thing, but it is been bugging me for quite some time now... :-) If possible, I

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My point is, there have been many bombings in London, probably enough to have one in On This Day for half of the entire year. Unless one is particularly notable - the subway bombings, for example - it certainly doesn't measure up in historical significance to humankind's first landing on the moon

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By that logic, every time someone dies in Iraq, it should go In The News? Unless bombings have a greater significance than simply to those affected, if they mean more than just a continuation of a conflict, (i.e. pretty much if they have their own article), they are not notable enough for the main

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The discussion ended with no real conclusion. The result was several speakers that raised the problems and several more who claimed there were no problems. Piecemeal changes usually end up like something designed by commitee; not really good for anything. I think it would be better to examine the

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I just can't believe this is considered more significant (as determined by its placement at the top of the section) than a military campaign that has already displaced half a million people, killed hundreds, and may yet trigger even worse. When historians look back in the future at how Knowledge

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No need to complain for now, because the main page is very organized and not cluttered of unneeded information. The new multi-lingual coordination list is short and avoids rambling of how many languages exist in the world. The news articles can be expanded by let's say 10 paragraphs and given the

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I'll note that if additional size reduction is desired, we could drop the "10,000" tier entirely. I believe that this would be of little benefit, however, as this would only remove text from the very bottom of the page. As the Wikipedias in question are in decent shape, I see no harm in listing

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Based upon the concerns expressed above (and both the favorable and unfavorable criticisms of the new setup), I created a compromise version that still contains well under half as many language editions as before. To improve accessibility, I increased the font size (except for the article links)

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editions are self-explanatory, because some academic circles are fluent in those languages or to promote literacy for those unable to understand advanced "scholarly" English. You may find the internet in isolated underdeveloped places, where English or the nation's official language aren't widely

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Another thing that really irked me about the current rewrite is the "More than 100 million speakers" when it actually means "Other languages with more than 100 million speakers". In fact, I'm not sure that even that is quite right (maybe it implies that Polish in the top row does have 100 million

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It was very hard to find a particular Knowledge in that old list anyway - far too many sections. The disadvantage of this new style is that it is highlighting what are currently some of Wikimedia's duffest projects (the Punjabi Knowledge currently has a "Nobody has really started on this section"

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You talk about "the English language Knowledge" as if all of its importance must be conveyed on the main page. I fully understand the position we're in, but the previous version was a complete mess of links that I could never see a user sifting through to find what they want. The complete list of

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This entire qualm is based in trying to marginalize an entire discipline. Moreover, it's a specific attempt at marginalizing information about one of the most important people to Western civilization. The absurdity of doing so is beyond measure or count; I'm lead to wonder if this is an attempted

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I bet you can't write something so quick that it's still the present; the past is so much larger, and getting longer and longer...In other words many more important things have happened in the past that there are currently happening. You can say that the main page is biased on History though; and

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Of course Americans are going to care more. However, as someone who is from neither a European or American country (and a country which has, until recently, not cared about soccer), I have heard about the Italian scandal, and haven't heard anything about the baseball scandal. Also, if baseball is

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So should we form Wikipedians Advocating Solar System Understatement Program? We can call ourselves WASSUP! The greetings would be awesome: "WASSUP?" "Hell yeah, Γ Quadrant for life, son!" ...of course, this would fall right into the nerd-bias above, but what do you expect from people who think

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Articles that make the main page do so because they're well-writted, well-sourced, and have good information. Since a preponderance of so-called "nerds" edit Knowledge, more "nerd-related" articles are likely to be well-written, well-sourced, and have good information. Thus, more "nerd-related"

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Well, Latin is the mother language of most of Western Civilization. A Wiki that could translate legal phrases, common medical terms, inscriptions off famous statues and buildings, as well as just infamous sayings might be popular enough. As for the idiot who started this thread; "Illegitame non

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The current version disregards the firing of hundreds of rockets by Hezbollah towards northern Israel. These rockets have already caused the death of over 10 people, and I think that not mentioning them makes it look like Israel is reacting only to the "minor" incident of kidnapping two soldiers.

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Let me just point out - on behalf of the speakers of all the "non-important" (because not spoken by 1 bn people or so) languages - that this topic has been dealt with here several times thoroughly and the final consesus has always been that we also keep the smaller languages at the bottom of the

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3. We aren't demonstrating bias against any languages. We're demonstrating bias against small Wikipedias. The goal is to link to Wikipedias that serve as useful resources, not to one with fewer than 100 articles! The language in question is spoken by a large number of people, but that doesn't

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Many of us like to read articles that explain things in simple, everyday terms or as they say "in laymen's terms". Knowledge is much aware not every person or any given country don't know/ speak the same language. Universal language literacy in some countries aren't always abided, includes those

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The new model on the Knowledge language edition directory is meant not to exceed half the page or any longer. I'm sure the most spoken languages and those with 50,000+ articles demonstrates how more used the languages are. Knowledge editions in small or dormant languages (under 1,000 articles or

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intended to reference anything that you wrote—as "a longer portal list"). I'm stating my opinion that including such a section, while possible, is a bad idea. I'm stating my opinion that it's better to include a link to a separate page. I'm stating my opinion that the Italian main page design

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say that " problem was with Portal:Browse, not with the main page." I noted that your criticism of the former was separate from your criticism of the latter. (I can't imagine why you would interpret a statement that "issue A has no bearing on issue B" to mean that "issue B is nonexistent.") My

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I totally agree, Knowledge's bias against the present shows at every corner. I mean, we're a present project, based in the present, created by people who live in the present. I mean, look at the "on this day section" EVERY ENTRY TODAY IS ABOUT THE PAST!!! tell me that's not past cruft. As a

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Wow....I probably should have checked before I asked about that....One good thing about wikipedia is that if you make a mistake or say something stupid, someone (or some people) are likely to point out your mistake before you realize it yourself...I don't know any latin, but perhaps I can redeem

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I think it rather non-neutral for precisely the reason described above: it treats as equal an order of magnitude difference. Yesterday, I had a copy of the Observer which cites this exact phrasing in reference to media bias (tossed it, or I'd give the quote). Whether they were referring to Wiki

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With featured content and project information seemingly strewn about in haphazard fashion, I don't see how their layout is more helpful to anyone. We include links for new users at the top of the page (clearly demarcated from the featured content), so I don't understand your assertion that our

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You complain about having to scroll to view the featured content, as if that's a problem. Our layout is angled toward presenting our best content, whereas theirs is angled toward helping people find content and understand Knowledge and its community--something that I think is more important. We

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in a sport on charges of perjury in regards to doping is as big a scandal as the match-fixing by a few teams (no players). The Eurocentrics may not realize it, but baseball is huge in East Asia and much of Latin America; not as big as football worldwide, of course. To be honest, I don't believe

6179:- if a bloat is approaching, whack the line in the sand up. The 50,000 or 100,000 (or 250,000...) is basically arbitrary. Let's just pick it so that it highlights a decent but easily navigable number of our best projects. The current number highlighted is too low, the previous number too high. 3869:

I complained about the main page. You mentioned Portal:Browse as being sufficient. I said that it wasn't sufficient. You said that my problem was with Portal:Browse, not with the main page. You were thereby shifting my complaint about the main page into one about Portal:Browse, lumping the two

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As noted above, the "quantity of speakers in the world" criterion relies upon unverifiable (and controversial) statistics, and it fails to consider the number of Knowledge users per language (which tends to directly correspond to the number of articles per edition). It also necessitates the

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We can't fit everything onto one page (nor would we want to, as this would be overwhelming), so we use the main page as a means of directing readers to the appropriate content (conveniently broken down into separate pages). This quickly establishes the type of navigation used throughout the

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So fix it. :) Welcome - Knowledge is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. There's no one person responsible for general content. So if the editors who originted that article lost interest or are busy then it gets left to someone else to take it up and suggest things for the Current events.

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recorded "in the news" as a first draft of history, this will be another reason why our discreditors don't take an online, democratic encyclopedia seriously. Is the policy that the most recent news must go at the top, or is there some standard for keeping the top story the most important?

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It most definately should be changed to reflect the wording of the original article. As I would think global security would be the number one issue given current events. But perhaps the only mistake is lack of punctuation, particularly commas, rather than "energy security" and education.

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Knowledge, not the Terran Federation one, so the only 'small' languages that I can see should get special treatment are, arguably, Gaelic and Welsh, for being minority languages within an English-speaking country. Or if that is controversial, just the largest ones, say 50,000+, period.

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A longer list of languages is a tiny price for improving multilingual coordination. The English-language Knowledge has a special role in multilingual coordination due to the international scope of the English language and the large size and influence of the English-language Knowledge.

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It should be noted, however, that the idea of including fewer language editions was discussed and rejected during the main page redesign process, so your "boldness" defies an existing consensus. It is, of course, appropriate to seek a new consensus. (For the record, I'm undecided.)

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stated that I disagree. I've made a good faith effort to accurately and appropriately describe my view on the subject (including the reasons behind my disagreement). What am I supposed to do? Say that I agree? Say that I agree halfway? I don't! Do you want me to pretend that I

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I believe that our current main page is practical, accessible, inviting and aesthetically pleasing. I believe that the Italian main page is cluttered, disorganized, overly fancy and less functional. You're entitled to disagree, but please stop attempting to invalidate my opinion.

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At the risk of repeating myself; the current ITN format places entries in the order at which they are added. There's no subjective judgement made as to one item's significance over another. To do so would just lead to more arguments. (Another reason to revisit the format of ITN)

3972:. I haven't proposed that we "fit everything onto one page", or even close to that. I'm proposing a block smaller than On This Day that provides quick links to general subjects for readers, so that they can easily find more specific subjects. How is it that the Italian Knowledge 6301:

I'm sure in business situations, diplomacy and public education, a common language is required to fairly communicate as in everyone understands. But to my fellow Wikis, the multilingual coordination link is your resort to create new language editions and translate our articles.

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If done well it looks good. The it.wp guys haven't done it well. But I think Brian was speaking more to the content rather than the form. There's a few good ideas in there that could be taken onboard. Especially the way they've handled the "news", making it totally un-newsy.

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There are language revival organizations represent tribal or regional languages threatened with extinction, wanted to promote and celebrate linguistic diversity. They use Knowledge to create their language editions and select a limited number of articles in their language.

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I'm very happy with the new section - it's much closer to what the main page when we originally switched to this layout; the language list was never meant to grow by a factor of 5 - it just happened to so slowly as to avoid complaint - this doesn't mean it was a good thing.

979:, in Indonesia. According to that country's President (as quoted by Rueters and AP wires at this point.) At 6:37am they're reporting 6.8 under sea, meanwhile at 6:54 their "eyewitness" Kathy Quiano: is reporting a "7.2 magnatude quake which read 7.1" on the richter scale. 2833:

This is yet another example of Knowledge's blatant bias toward the past. The entire main page is flooded with crap from the past, and this is one of the worst examples--who cares what happened back when the world was only a few thousand years old?! Delete NN empirecruft. —

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links for more details. However, the Cherokee language suggestion hasn't been accepted. On the other hand, Nepali is expected to get included as the language has a million speakers. I love the main page's current format and let's keep things rolling smooth in Knowledge. --

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Can you provide links to these past "final consensuses", and then explain why exactly these past discussions should prevent present and future changes? (Otherwise, why even bring them up?) If users want to easily switch between language versions, they can simply go to the

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massive list-o-links was useful to readers??? It's practically unmanageable. It's also biased toward languages that our pool of editors is willing to edit. For example, it doesn't list Punjabi, which is spoken by more people than most of the other languages on the page. —

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The current version (David Levy's version sans the 10,000k section) looks good to me. It's aestehtically appealing because it is approximately the same size as the 'sister projects' and 'Other areas of Knowledge' and it includes virtually all of the important languages.

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If one person claims that a cat is black, and another contends that the same cat is white, this doesn't obligate both to agree on the "middle-ground" statement that the cat is black-and-white (or gray). Consensus sometimes lies somewhere in the middle, but not always.

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I mostly agree. Please note how I've never suggested that Bonds of Faulk should be in the ITN box, nor have I suggested that the Italian soccer controversy shouldn't be. I simply stated that Americans care about Bonds and Faulk, and not Italian soccer. Do you deny this?

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We can't clearly draw lines like "languages with over 100 million native speakers" using available evidence. In particular, estimates of numbers of native speakers come from sources with imperfect and widely varying reliability. Yet they rarely state a margin of error.

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news notice, and is at least as worthy as a possible house owned by Augustus. And thirdly, I went out of my way to say that I was not gaming to have every American business story posted on the front page, and yet I was accused exactly of that. This is what I am saying:

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If that's the case, then we should replace another part of the main page (maybe DYK? OTD?) because frankly, if Featured Lists are featured then they should be at the Main Page. If they would have absolutely no chance of being featured, either rename them or delete the

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Language is a mode of human communication, but it's held as an art form in literature and cultural preservation, and most of all, everyone has the right to speak any language they want in circumstances (i.e. in private and with their family or friends/companions).

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Agreed. Our list on the main page is basically useless as it stands. I suggest that we list the 10,000+ wikis, as well as the other world languages that have populations larger than the least-spoken of the 10,000+, and keep the rest on the separate list of wikis. —

2451:). The OTD choices should be mixed up differently every year, otherwise the lesser-known events will never, ever get chosen. Maybe what we really need is a script that will randomly generate the entries, so we can stop having these "you forgot Poland" debates. -- 6556:

Because it's a rather obvious systematic bias. One of the largest languages in the world has one of the smallest Wikipedias. To not link to it seems like we're trying to hide our inherent bias. But maybe that's something more appropriate for www.wikipedia.org —

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learn from them is their handling of "other languages". The ten largest wikis, plus minor related (Romance) languages. That's it. Click here for the full list. We need to get rid of the 'other languages cruft' here, at least of the below-10,000-articles ones.

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You can't be serious? I have never even heard about Barry Bonds or Marshall Faulk. The soccer story is on our news, but baseball never is. It is a purely American game, and the rest of the world couldn't give a crap. On the other hand, many of the players who

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Is there a Latin-language wikipedia? and if not, why hasn't it been created? wasn't the first encyclopedia written in latin? isn't this an insult to history? I would create it myself, but I can't because the only latin word I know is "vagina" (and I know it

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Raul, I think you're reacting to a threat you infer to the Featured Article spot. Nobody said that, though (although I see how you could read it that way). In fact, I think that's the worst place for featured lists aside from the controversy it would cause.

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our shortcomings, and encouraging others to help counteract this bias. Your version embraces this bias to an even larger degree, by showing off even more languages that outrank some of the largest in the world, and removing the list of largest languages. —

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If you feel this is necessital and informative, go ahead and use it as an educational tool in any language you choose. I believe the freedom of expressing your knowledge in any language is an essential part of Knowledge as an international academic source.

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They provide numerous links to sub-portals right on the main page, which is definitely reader-friendly. And their first block explains Knowledge, replies to common concerns with Knowledge, etc. We devote only a few words to that on the entire main page. —

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The reason "# of native speakers" is important is because we are trying to be as useful as possible to the largest number of readers. If you can suggest any other factors that will help the most people find what they need, we can look at those as well. —

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In buisness school, the very first lesson they teach on the very first day is this - if you have a successful product, DON'T MESS WITH IT. This was considered so basic, so obvious, they didn't even teach it for many years. (They started teaching it after

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You talk about the Italian main page being a jumble, then reference Portal:Browse, which is the epitome of ridiculous and useless jumbles. The simple truth is that the Italian Knowledge's main page portal breakdown is far superior to anything we have. —

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Is it really necessary to inflict that horrible smug grin on us? How about replacing the latest Prime Minister with the first Prime Minister, ie Robert Walpole. Walpole is no longer controversial and in the picture in his article he looks statesmanlike.

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Meanwhile, we aren't going to improve international relations (or reduce the appearance of "bias") by including the Arabic Knowledge (containing fewer than 16,000 articles) and excluding the Hebrew Knowledge (containing more than 41,000 articles).

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We would essentially be listing 200+ links on one page. It's needless clutter of the main page. If people want to find a language, they simply go to the list of Wikipedias. I don't understand your argument about "people who are not monolingual". —

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at the top of the main pg, it says we currently have 1,268,835 articles. however, clicking on the link to the stats pg tells us that we have 1,268,861 articles. this statistic is probably changing as i type. pls fix this contradiction. thank you.

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I agree with your suggestions, but am unsure what to do about the "More than 100 million speakers" bit. It should be pretty obvious to people that the reason an entry isn't in the 2nd set is because it's already in the first set (eg, Spanish). —

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If I remember correctly there is a lag between the stats and the front page figure due to technical limitations. The figure is always in flux, with articles being constantly created and deleted, so a difference of up to 100 isn't a big issue.

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I thought that the purpose of linking to small Wikipedias from the largest languages was similar to one of the purposes of DYK: to encourage people to participate in editing/expansion, and also, in this case, counteracting systematic bias. —

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Bear in mind that the ITN blurb isn't designed to act as a full news story. As it stands, it's already the longest blurb up there, and is both neutral and accurate. Those interested in learning more can click on the link provided to do so.

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I think it is sad that we are so provincial that we can't even look for an article out of our solar system. I hereby declare a CRUSADE against SYSTEMIC SOLAR SYSTEM STIGMATISM/BIAS on Knowledge! Forward the Great Attractor and Great Wall!

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Well, if you weren't trying to lump one discussion into the other, why would you word it that way? "This has no bearing on whether the information contained therein should be crammed onto the main page." That's obvious and unnecessary. —

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Except that it was designed in the USSR. The JSF is the same airframe as the Yak-141 and the twist-pipe jet engine is also based on soviet technology. America paid 300 million USD to Russia soon after end of USSR to gain this technology.

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1. Obviously, I disagree with your assessment. I believe that that simple, succinct links are the best means of directing readers to the appropriate content. I believe that additional clutter would only distract and confuse people.

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the Main Page are poorly designed. Just because I decided to comment on the former doesn't mean that my comments on the latter suddenly disappear. We should have a main page portal breakdown like they use on the Italian Knowledge. —

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and being overly minimalistic. The current version is as minimal as it gets, but there are more detailed versions (such as the breakdown on the Italian main page) that are simple, yet more functional, useful, and reader-oriented. —

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signals (from tracking radars, often short range) striking the front half of the aircraft, making it almost undetectable (stealthy) to such devices from this direction but not particularly stealthy from the rear and not stealthy to

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I can't help but ask, "Surprising to whom?" Does this seem like weasel wording or POV commentary to anyone else? Would this be better asked on the article's talk page as it's in the article without any citation there as well?

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we don't know who yet there could be major business men or even the former PM, he owns AC Milan. This is a major news story and if some team winning a national cup in America is worthy of main page space then this certainly is.

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Why aren't featured lists ever on the Main Page? They all have introductory text, and are often as interesting as the featured articles. Is this the proper forum for discussing this? Has it been discussed before? Thanks. --

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On a somewhat related note, why is 2006 is parenthesis after Marine Day? Its article said it was first celebrated in 1996, so shouldn't that be the year listed, or am I misunderstanding what the year in parenthesis indicates?

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speakers) but it is definitely closer to the key idea: we don't repeat English and Spanish, which clearly do have 100 million speakers, on the bottom row too. Could somebody either change that or suggest a better alternative?

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I prefer the Italian layout, with the exception of the half-way icon thing, which I think is ugly. The English wikipedia is too focused on showing off featured stuff and referencing random stuff(Did you know and On this day).

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I'll just say: death before pastels and shiny big icons! They invade our message boxes, and we fall back. They assimilate entire front pages, and we fall back! Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!

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It's a headline and as such can't include everything - that's what the article is for. BTW, it would look strange if it said that Israel entered Lebanon for something because of something that happened 4 or 5 days later.

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That's a secondary goal, but we have to draw the line somewhere (and we absolutely shouldn't link to a Knowledge that's barely gotten started). As noted above, the number of people in the world who speak a language does

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for looking beyond the colors and icons! There is hope among us yet :) So, yes, the news section is definitely more article-oriented and less like a news-ticker. Are there any other aspects of the layout that you like? —

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provided a rationale: I believe that our main page contains an appropriate amount of content (and the Italian main page contains too much). The fact that you disagree with my assessment doesn't mean that I haven't made

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I'm going to have to agree with Bruxism. The Miss Universe thing doesn't warrant being higher than the conflict on the main page. It doesn't even deserve to be above the Tour de France. Some prioritization is necessary

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You've replied to my 2 words "ridiculous jokes", and not to the rest of my comment. As I said, we should shift the responsibility back to the main page, which is what we present first and foremost to every reader. —

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The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides. Other nations rush to evacuate their citizens, while the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis.

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The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens. UN officials warn of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis.

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Well, I think we should avoid shifting all responsibility off the main page. Also, none of those lists sort by the size of the population, just by the size of the Knowledge. Can you comment on my proposal below? —

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The Main Page still reflects only what happened 4 or 5 days ago, in a way that suggests this is a one-sided assault. That's not making it short, that's making it factually inaccurate. I suggest something like "The

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of the news section." I'm referring to its editorial content. 3. Please examine all of the comments that I've made "from the very beginning" (including numerous criticisms of specific design elements). Now find

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present-er, I am appauled at the systematic bias against the present and future brought here by the members of this project! We're all citizens of the present here! We should focus more on it and the future. --

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Perhaps some general talk page should be as accessible from the main page as the discussion of the main page itself; it's very tempting to post anything unrelated to the main page here. Anyway congratulations! ;)

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to me (and I will began collecting evidence on) that when these two stories are presented to the In The News as options, the Italian one is selected more frequently than the American one. And that is what I find

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article seems dry and unimpressive. I'd have a hard time justifying the displacement of any of the current selections for that unless it's a 'round number anniversary'. Good articles will always get priority. --

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I don't think anybody would miss 'did you know' all that much; frankly though, I'd much rather see something like 'Media of the Day I set up on commons - a different video or song on the main page every day. See

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articles will be featured. It has nothing to do with a bias in terms of which topics are picked for the main page: its a bias of what topics are covered well enough in Knowledge to be picked for the main page.

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If I recall correctly, a majority (but not necessarily a supermajority, depending upon one's definition) opposed the modification. Yes, consensus is subject to change. I had mixed feelings, and I still do.

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language edition is still disputed and I had one response that most Cherokee in the U.S. don't always use the language, even in a period of revival by tribal members with access to that peculiar language.

4967:, to counteract the bias of our pool of editors. So, for example, we'd list German, Spanish, etc, because they have 100,000+ articles, but we'd also list Chinese, which represents over 1/6 of the world. — 4623:

Ignore me, I'm just the peanut gallery. I don't actually want to contribute to discussions on the Main Page layout, because, as you've noticed, it takes huge reams of comments to get anywhere. If anywhere.

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I think it will be nice, if the InterWiki link to Englisc/Anglosaxon Wikipeda is added. I think it made ang.wiki more popular, and - maybe - encourage people to learn the history of their/foreign language.

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So far you've said that we should try to keep the reader-oriented content on the main page short, but there's no reason to go as extremely minimalistic as the current main page is (one word for each vast

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The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens; the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee

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in the UK we have had major reforms in the home office but we wouldn't ask for that to be included. Relevant US stroy will be mentioned in In the News as will loads of non-relevant ones so don't worry.

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In the 1992 presidential election campaign, Pat Buchanan made extensive use of the phrase in his unusually strong showing against the normally-unchallenged incumbent Bush in the Republican primaries.

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I agree. I think it should be changed to merely "in his challenge to Bush", as the point you brought up, and the question "Strong, compared to what?" should be reason enough to eliminate them both.

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Did the disucussion on name changes for ITN get anywhere? I haven't checked. Maybe a whole raft of ITN changes should be proposed, or is it better to try and get bits through piecemeal, bit-by-bit?

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Well, clearly this is some brand of consensus-building I've never heard of. Can you explain how two people come to a middle-ground when one of them repeatedly states only, "I disagree with you". —

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I hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE trying to read several columns of info. It's not a natural reading style. Keep it simple. (And yes, the cutesy pics and colours are positively barf-worthy too.) --

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Very seriously: I thought it was great that we got away from such depressing news and got something cultural up there for a change (that isn't sports). And I have nothing against what's there. --

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to something of the "Hezbollah attacks Israel, Israel strikes back" sort?? This seems to be more accurate - the current writing seems to indicate that Israel is the propogator of the attacks....

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Was the change actually "rejected" in that a supermajority of the voters were opposed to it, or was there no supermajority either way? In any case, "consensus" is simply a means to bring those

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If a sports scandal in Italy is worthy of the front page, then a sports scandal involving the greatest hitter in baseball history is worthy of the front page. If not, then both are not. But it

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Related Tsunami news: --The North American Tsunami warning system on Tuesday moved a step forward with an agreement signed to place a Tsunami warning systems in parts of the Caribbean region.

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The news section is ordered chronologically (which is objective), not by importance (which is subjective). That said, the shuttle landing did occur before the tsunami, so it should go 2nd. —

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per language (which tends to directly correspond to the number of articles per edition). There might be a billion speakers of "Zxelquent" on another planet, but they aren't using Knowledge.

5168:? It specifically says not to revert war. So, why would there be revert wars? Regardless of who actually has the talk page on their watchlist, far more people actually view the main page. — 3196: 3178:"1954 - First Indochina War: The 17th parallel was established at the Geneva Conference, partitioning Vietnam into North Vietnam led by Ho Chi Minh and South Vietnam under Emperor Bảo Đại." 6934:

When I read it, it also sounded ambiguous to me. I've removed the phrase "in Deomcratic Kampuchea". Someone may want to add it back in later, but at least in this way, is sounds clearer. --

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2. Again, your belief that the pages in question are "ridiculous jokes" has no bearing on the optimal location of the information contained therein (which should be improved regardless). —

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To be honest, the entire section needs a rethink. I am sure that every single person will want 'their' subject covered, and everyone elses ignored. There needs to be some better criteria.

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Again, I'm of the opinion that the overall design is poor. Just because I decided to comment on a particular flaw doesn't mean that my comments on the other flaws suddenly disappear. —

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It gets better, FF6 and FF8 are going for FAC at almost the same exact time :-). Kinda like what happened a few months ago, when like 8 FF articles got GA status over a 3 day period :) —

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It says here that the two main G8 issues are "energy security" and education... should it be energy, security, and education, as in the summit's article? Or should the other be changed?

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So you are for having the bare minimum of links to portals and explanatory pages, but you have mixed feelings about a massive unformatted list of Wikipedias? Can you explain further? —

213:'s bank account. If Nasrallah was so loaded those youths wouldn't have money to march back and forth with ammunition attached to their chests and arms. They on Nasrallah's payroll."-- 3997:(which includes such a section) is poor. I'm stating my opinion that our design (which includes a link to a separate page) is good. I don't know how I can make myself any clearer. — 3470:

To clarify, the number is automatically updated in both locations, but the updating happens faster off of the Main Page. The high number of hits on the Main Page slows its updating. —

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That's exactly the sort of thing that slowly turns featured articles into crap--small changes that are alright by themselves, but in large numbers make the article a total mess. —

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the World Cup are in a lot of trouble for game fixing. This is much more newsworthy. How many people watch the World Series (if that is what it is called) than do the World Cup? --

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inclusion of the Punjabi Knowledge (which is practically nonexistent) and the Bengali and Hindi Wikipedias (which are rather small). Those are the only three that I've removed.

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My "B" was a partial "R" (which counts as an "R" under actual policy). If anything, the fact that it was an attempt at compromise (rather than a complete "R") meant that it was

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Deutsch (German) · Español (Spanish) · Français (French) · Italiano (Italian) · 日本語 (Japanese) · Nederlands (Dutch) · Polski (Polish) · Português (Portuguese) · Svenska (Swedish)

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is poorly designed, fix it! This has no bearing on whether the information contained therein should be crammed onto the main page. Obviously, I believe that it shouldn't be. —

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Thanks for that link. I think it is a non-argument though: most people (read: all that I know of) use the scroll-wheel on their mouse, rather than the arrows on the keyboard...

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I think you misunderstood me. We should present the largest Wikipedias (100,000+), because they are our best work, but we should also present the Wikipedias that represent the

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I support the idea of making the section "more article-oriented and less like a news ticker." This has absolutely nothing to do with the page's aesthetic design and layout. —

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preventing users from writing about the future, and people freely use pejoratives like "crystal ball" to label anything that doesn't agree with their temporal mentality... —

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clearly has a lot of energy that needs a useful outlet. Perhaps he could Punjabi (one of the largest languages in the world, after all), and translate some articles...? --

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to have discovered should get top billing in the “In The News” section; especially considering the fact that Earth already has more important issues to deal with such as

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I love how the imagery in the front page, as of this edit, shows the space shuttle right next to a note about an escalating Israeli/Lebanese conflict. Let's all escape!

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Using the terminology of "forward hemisphere"fixes to offer as WP doesn't have a "hemisphere" article and the F-35 page itself doesn't even mention the hemisphere jargon.

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I think "civilian and military casualties" would be more appropriate than "military and civilian casualties", considering the apparent ratios between the two categories.

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Don't you think it makes sense to do it by what is most significant (like on the Yahoo! front page) as opposed to what order they were added/occurred in the real world?

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I just ordered them by largest to smallest populations. Alphabetical would be fine as well. I don't understand how this is an "argument against" the current version. —

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On the English-language main page, I think the only edition that might merit special mention is Simple English. (I'm not as concerned about this point as the others.)

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Getting to the subject, Israeli officials say that the Lebanese government is responsible. Hezbollah is a legal "party of God" in Lebanon. It is as ethical as the

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I do believe that space is less of a concern here, because the section is at the very bottom of the page. (This change was made during the redesign process. When

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was poorly designed was an argument for improving its content (irrespective of whether said content is to be displayed on a separate page or on the main page), and

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After spending a little over a year here in Knowledge, I am willing to make the call: there is a bias, but towards nerds (of which I am a mere Class 2 Nerd). From

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Hmm. The above WikiProject doesn't seem very active. Only four other posts on the talk page since the end of April. Though the guideline page is a bit more active.

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In the 1992 presidential election campaign, Pat Buchanan made extensive use of the phrase in his surprisingly strong challenge to Bush in the Republican primaries.

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4. With or without the "10,000" tier, the current list is short, manageable and fairly evenly divided, and it contains only Wikipedias in reasonably good shape. —

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Today, George W. Bush made his first veto against a stem cell research bill. This is his first veto in his 6 years of being President. Is this Main Page worthy?--

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We do what we can with the information we have. Sure, it's probably not 100% accurate, but until better information is provided, we stick with what we've got. —

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That covers the 100,000+ Wikipedias, as well as all the languages with 100 million+ speakers. All the rest would be listed on the complete list of Wikipedias. —

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You've really just said the opposite of what everyone else says about Knowledge's bias. Which leads me to believee no one knows what they're talking about. ;)

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The F-35 Lightning II, called in development the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), is a military fighter aircraft designed by the United States and the United Kingdom.

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Yeah i always notice images beside the top story that look out of position, but this one actully looks right in the proper position. lets evacuate Earth before

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user's screen will allow? This would look really cool on the main page, and a lot of featured pictures only start looking good when they start getting big. -

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an attempt to address anything that you wrote. It was merely a general statement regarding why we limit the amount of content that we seek to include. I'm

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popular in Asia, that doesn't change much, as most Asian countries do not speak English as their primary language. They would be using different Wikipedias.

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Are you suggesting that any one of the languages that was listed under "100 million+" actually has fewer speakers than any of the 200+ languages that were

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How, by explicitly noting that the two issues are separate, was I attempting to "lump one discussion into the other"?! I was doing the exact opposite! —

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It is world news, and american news is very common here, as there 1 192 some countries in the world... and america get more than 1/192 of the news slots.

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I Agree! Keep your neo-clasisist 'truth is beauty' ideals out of our wikipedia! We are post-postmodern and into neo-realism, come on keep up peple! --

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The first manned lunar landing and the Viking probe are both hugely significant, certainly more so than one-of-many bombings in London. No, thanks. —

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But, clearly, that's simply to counteract the genetic bias toward females. After all, 3/4 of the sex chromosomes are X (XX for women, XY for men). —

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Interwiki links are added to the bottom of the Main Page once the Knowledge has 1,000 articles or more. Is this true for the Anglo-Saxon Knowledge?

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shows off more of our better projects (any WP with 50,000 articles deserves to be called an encyclopedia - 49 articles, on the other hand, doesn't)

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was the second-to-last section, there was more support for the idea of either removing the "1,000" level or hiding it by default. This faded when

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necessarily correspond to the number of available Knowledge readers/editors. The quantity of articles per edition is our best available gauge. —

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and not even 50 articles!) and it is hiding some of the best other-language Wikipedias. What the language list fails to take into account is that

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Minor point, but it seems a bit over the top to have two space exploration items right next to each other. How about replacing the 1976 one with:

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why 'the other world languages that have populations larger than the least-spoken of the 10,000+'? I think we need to remember that this is the

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It's not the best picture, and the article is (as I pointed out in Talk) too focused on history, but I think Blair is the right person to use. --

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Numerically, "30,000" makes slightly more sense for the middle tier than "25,000," but the latter currently results in much more even division.

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Today is Mary Magdalene's feast day. The novel is based around cracking codes to discover the truth, which is the blood-line of Mary Magdalene.

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I'd like to include the couple languages that are "100 million+" but below 25k articles, but this looks alright. At least we have the top 5. —

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Hey, I was wondering if there was any way for featured pictures that are wider than they are long (that are displayed over the text, just like

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Perhaps FLs would be featured weekly? Because if they don't have a chance of being featured on the main page, then "featured" is a misnomer. --

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That's grand, but there're two problems. First, you haven't given an updated article. Second, suggestions for the ITN section are made over on

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section is for. Please try to confine your passions to editing the article so that it includes as much encyclopedic information as possible. --

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it looks nice. although my first thought is "spam website". It has nice and flashy design details, and you'd be tired of them within a month.

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The Italian main page includes the same type of content, but it's jumbled with the project information (seemingly without rhyme or reason). —

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1. The statistics in question are estimates that we have no means of verifying. The quantities of articles, conversely, are 100% verifiable.

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I really would've expected all the bugs to have been fixed before it was rolled out! Could be good, but there are too many problems in IE.

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Would anyone else like to see us adopt some form of the new Italian Knowledge layout (except for the icons-halfway-under effect)? (here's a

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My laptop does not have a mouse or a scroll wheel. Breaking standard methods of page navigation is, in general, a bad idea in web design. —

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I disagree, the grandparent has it right: the surprise was that Bush got any opposition at all, not over who the opponent was. A revision:

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ITN is listed chronologically, and lists articles with updated content. It is not a "top news stories" source, and is not a news ticker. —

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holistic problems and solutons and put forward an entire model for replacement that addresses all concerns. But changes are slow on WP. --

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DYK looked better without the bullets a few months ago. Why use them along with an ellipsis starting each line ? Ugly and superfluous. --

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You: "Would anyone else like to see us adopt some form of the new Italian Knowledge layout (except for the icons-halfway-under effect)?"

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A sitting president usually has a breeze in the primaries; Bush did not. It was a stronger challenge than most sitting presidents get.

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I think our present page is cute enough without being a Mac OS/Windows Vista wannabe like the Italian Main Page is. Have we no shame?

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As Marine day is not on a fixed date. The "2006" refers to it falling on the 17th in 2006. In other years the date will be different.

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OTD is not too short, but DYK is too long, making OTD look short. And please keep the 1976 event. It's the 30th anniversary today. --

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My intial change was B, as were my subsequent later changes based on the discussion here. Yours was also B. Nobody has gone to R. —

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some language editions of Knowledge, it might make sense for the main page to give special mention to specially related languages.

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Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, the picture in the "Did you know..." section is a rhinoceros woodcut, not a bidding box.

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belittle the essay. I inquired as to why you believe that all editors would heed its advice (irrespective of whether it's good).

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says that this term is controversial or even offensive to many Chinese. I suggest that the wording in ITN be changed to "eastern

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Hell, you haven't even mentioned Knowledge's bias against alternative timelines! Can you imagine: as important a topic as, say,

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indicted, that should belong on the front page as much as the relegation scandal. The federal indictment of the most noteworthy

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to have a decent introductory lead section and an image, so you could replace TFA with TFL, say, one day a week. I wonder what

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Is it correct to talk of "civilian and military casualties on both sides"? Surely the military casualties are only on one side?

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Implies some kind of parity. In fact, Lebanese deaths are an order of magnitude higher than Israeli losses. In this report -

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St. Louis Ram's Running Back Marshall Faulk are 100 times more important, relevent, and news worthy. But we don't compain.

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I disagree with you. 2. What gave you the idea that consensus must be build via "middle-ground" compromise? Please read

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Front page images need to be free, so our only option would probably be something like the Lebanese flag or a free map. --

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So, "the aesthetic design and the layout are poor", and "we shouldn't adopt it at all", but we should adopt their ITN? —

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What about the bias against wrong information? Everyone seems to work on keeping wrong information out of the main page.

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CNN is reporting @ ~ 6:37am(GMT -4) that a earthquake spawned Tsunami has hit the Western Shore of the Asian island of

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Space Shuttle Discovery lands at the Kennedy Space Center, ending a 13-day mission to the International Space Station.

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This is clearly another case of Knowledge's blatant Saturnian bias. There's a whole universe out there, people!!! —

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There are two semicolons in this sentence, which is grammatically incorrect. Try replacing it with something like:

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I just boldly switched to a compromise version of the list. If someone reverts to your version, this will violate

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I didn't say adopt the colors/icons. I said adopt the layout. I only care about the functionality and usability. —

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I didn't say adopt the colors/icons. I said adopt the layout. I only care about the functionality and usability. —

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I didn't say adopt the colors/icons. I said adopt the layout. I only care about the functionality and usability. —

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I didn't say adopt the colors/icons. I said adopt the layout. I only care about the functionality and usability. —

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You could have mentioned the male bias as well, 10 out of 10 of persons mentionen in the whole page are men!!! ;P--

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As I keep saying, OTD should not be held to strict rules, definitely not about hurting people's feelings (because

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In my opinion, it could work by simply replacing the featured picture with a featured list once or twice a week. —

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Horrible. I don't like the way the blue border goes through the icons, and it happens in both Firefox and IE. --

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either story belongs on the front page, but the use of precedents on this page throws everything up in the air.

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Alright, I've updated it. I used "Additional languages" instead of "Other languages", but if you find a better

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swapped positions.) At the same time, I feel that "1,000 articles" might be an unreasonably low threshold. —

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Yes, you can click on it to see it. But why can't it be on the actual page? We've had panoramas there before.

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can subsitute with the "featured media". And we don't have featured media (it is proposed, though). How about

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More than 30 years ago I got this info : Danny Cedrone passed away on July 17, 1954 What do you think of it?

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Hebrew (more articles than Arabic, Malay, Bengali, Hindi, and Punjabi put together; more edits than Russian).

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Your changes constituted "B." Mine were tantamount to "R." The next step is supposed to be "D," not "R." —

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your other extreme (presenting the bare minimum) when my suggestion is closer to your end of the spectrum. —

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turkish conquest in Europe. The 550 year celebrations are held during this weekend throughout Hungary. See:

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It might be an idea to sort the first section other than by language code. I would like to emphasise that

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The image is a different story, however; it only changes when and if someone gets around to changing it.

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Yeah, tuum culpa (your bad)....er, if that accusative for "your" is wrong then it's mea culpa (my bad)!--

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This is LARGELY more important than the Space Shuttle and deserves first mention on the news section. --

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in India is written in Sanskrit script (an ancient language of Northern India used 2,500 years ago). --

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There are other factors in the relative importance of languages besides the number of native speakers.

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I'm expressing my distaste for the form especially because nobody else seemed to do so. I'll leave the

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I have no idea why the "importance of languages" is being discussed. This is about linking important

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Ah, another minor edit. A point needs to be inserted between العربية (Arabic) and বাংলা (Bengali).

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is disgracful. I'm not saying that that event should take place but we should have to space events.

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are the majority in this world, including about 40% of English speakers (according to Ethnologue).

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I agrees with darth shikari, most people know what a pokemon is however there are a few who don't--

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Why do you expect everyone to abide by the terms of the essay that you've unilaterally applied? —

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Middle-ground is the usual outcome, especially when someone will only keep saying "I disagree". —

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This image is being ad blocked because it is cached as "upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/

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would even like to have something like this implemented on all pages. Let me know what you think.

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The link for "magnitude 7.7 earthquake" leads to the "Penis" article. Might want to change that.

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Should the relegation of Italian soccer teams really be listed above the Israel-Lebanon conflict?

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wikipedia, not United-Nations-Knowledge, hence we have no responsibility to link minor projects.

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It just seems silly to be obvious and wrong. At least the "Other languages with more..." is only

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Alright, you've belittled it for being a mere "essay". Now show what's wrong with its content. —

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has recently been changed to a non-free license due to its prohibition on derivative images. See

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to better understand the layout) Of course, it will never happen, but one can always dream... —

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The factual account should include Hezbollah entering Israel to murder 7 and kidnap 2 soldiers.

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Let me be the first to say, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH CREATIONIST! RUN AWAY! --

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Three of hte current DYKs are American. But the Italian soccer thing shouldn't be there, IMHO.

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thats your internet browser, if you are using firefox just refresh your page, thats what i do

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There should be something on the frontpage about the 550 year old defence and battle of Fort

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myself by writing the latin wikipedia article on the vagina...I'll see what I can do... :)

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Knowledge:Main Page FAQ#Why doesn't the cursor appear in the search box, like with Google?

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The 100,000 articles line in the sand is pretty arbitrary, I think switching to 50,000:

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talk page, while leaving other people out of the whole consensus-building process. Read

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You're the second person to report this issue (which I'm not experiencing). Please try

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It's not fair to assume that everyone reading the encyclopedia knows what a Pokémon is.

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Although the inset box on its own looks ideal for giving a sense of global location. --

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What are you implying, Brian? That we shouldn't adopt some aspects of the layout? :-P

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I replied to the rest of your comment above (under point "1") by plainly stating that

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Keep the two space-related events and add the 1982 event. Today's OTD is too short. --

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summit is not listed in the current events and is not mentioned on the main page, and

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We can't update it every five minutes. This is, again, a misunderstanding of what the

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and was shown on MainPage for 24 hours straight. I'm not sure what the problem is. --

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While I would prefer to retain the "10,000" tier, the current setup is acceptable. —

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2.I've already explained that my "we can't fit everything onto one page" comment was

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But it would put a strain (or will it?) on the servers? And will it be slow to load?

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How about patiently continuing the discussion and establishing consensus instead? —

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There's of course the 'third' option, where we list none at all, but simply link to

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I think that 100000+ and 20000+ would be a better chose (than 50000+ and 25000+) --

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Stories that feature "in the news" need an updated wikipedia article to link to.

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I've replaced the image in question with the better version cited on that page. —

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about the statistics concerning the number of speakers. Now, please answer this:

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is one click away from our main page (thereby avoiding needless clutter), as are

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In most cases, all of the items listed on In the news is sorted by most recently

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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2. The number of speakers per language is far less relevant than the number of

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This is the English language Knowledge. Started in 2001, it currently contains

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The current twenty languages exclude many languages of substantial importance:

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from 95% to 100%. I also tweaked the introduction's wording, added a link to

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The lightblue rectangle on the right shouldn't be covering the cute icons. --

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We haven't even gotten to Knowledge's bias against the future! There are even

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was my point. Please stop accusing me of engaging in dishonest "tactics." —

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What do you mean? On Knowledge, or from an external news service, like CNN?--

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Why are links underlined (as of today?) in the English version of Knowledge?

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Of course Knowledge has an article on that (fake) Latin phrase as well...see

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claiming that you advocate "presenting countless links on the main page." —

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contributing to a free online encyclopedia is a cool way to spend time ;-) (

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Perhaps that particular thing isn't a bug but there are plenty of others.

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design elements for the sake of change," let alone change for the worse. —

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Surely there needs to be a "beware of trolling" notice added to this page?

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Check the indent Jimmmmmmmmm, it was directed at the original poster. :) --

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carbarundum - Julius Ceasar { Don't let the bastards grind you down } "

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My bad, I just realized I was saying "10,000+" when I meant "100,000+" —

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change the fact that there's practically nothing there for them to read.

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my suggestion does not entail continual bloat of the number of WPs shown

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old page cover? My guess is only about 70-75%, over the current ~65%. —

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should be as reader-centric as possible, especially on our main page. —

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Sorry Cigarette I'm a little unclear as to who you message is aimed at.

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involved in discussion toward an agreement. If you look at a page like

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neglecting other sciences, such as Chemistry, Biology, und so weiter.--

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But why are they "of substantial importance"? You said that we should

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You said, "we shouldn't adopt it at all". Then, you said "I'm all for

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very good.. and here is a nice wiki link that does exist about latin

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I'm not disregarding either criticism. I'm noting that the issue of

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1. Of course you accused me of lying. 2. I'm not referring to the "

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In my opinion, both the aesthetic design and the layout are poor. —

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In my opinion, both the aesthetic design and the layout are poor. —

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In my opinion, both the aesthetic design and the layout are poor. —

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In my opinion, both the aesthetic design and the layout are poor. —

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While interesting, I doubt an article about something archeologists

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would be the best place to suggest layout changes to the DYK box. --

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no, don't be silly, it would be too small as a thumb to be of use --

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suggest putting a comma after the 2007. 03:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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I expect an apology for your rude implication that I was lying. —

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The "it" in "we shouldn't adopt it at all" refers strictly to the

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That isn't what I wrote (unless you define "everything"—which was

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IMHO the new main page rocks. The new village pump (bar) su**s. --

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Great. A featured picture of the day without the actual picture.

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You're oversimplifying the debate. There's a difference between

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Hadn't the 17th parallel existed for a long time before this? —

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I thought about doing that too. Let's see what others think. —

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Incidentally, we both sound pedantic and utterly ridiculous. —

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Considering that I was the one who added the Augustus entry to

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Wikipedias looks much better and is easier to scan through. —

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I don't like the design at all - I prefer clean and simple. --

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complaints together into one. It's a very common tactic. :) —

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Just face it. Knowledge hates America and supports Terrorism.

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as a learning tool to advance oneself in linguistic studies.

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reflects better the language skills of those reading the page

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readership of Knowledge varies widely from country to country

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Wikipedia_talk:Featured lists#Featured lists on the Main_Page

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Can we please get that image removed? It looks horrible. See

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I can understand that point, and it seems alright to add. —

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I got the impression they focused on what they thought were

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PFFT! Now you're just being serious. That will never wash --

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I think you'll find that very few men can decline vagina. --

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Oh finally the evil has been curbed! Much, much better.

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Prehaps setting the width atribute to 100%. I'm not sure.

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Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if Bonds

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly would miss

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Because they would be hard to do? how would you do it? --

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on the principle that they've already done it better. --

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was just the name of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. --

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They're listed too, right? Albeit chronologically. --

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