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that it was produced in such high numbers. (only reason why Soviet won the east front, is due to extreme numbers of material and personell, not cleverness, but that is another story). Has this article been written by a russian?? (or a stupid propagandaist, I see the main contributor has been banned from
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The article also says: "Red Army T-34 tanks outclassed any other tanks in the world". This is not correct. German Tiger, and later
KoningsTiger was far better. Also others where better than T34. T34 where easy to shoot trough, due to armor of not the higest quality. Only reason T34 reached Berlin, is
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A comparison of the losses demonstrates the cruel treatment of the Soviet POWs by the Nazis. The majority of Soviet POWs taken prisoner by the Axis died in captivity. Out of the 5.7 million Soviet POWs taken by the
Germans, 3.6 million died in captivity. Of the 3.3 million German POW taken by the
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In the first part, if we are assuming 4.55 million captured
Soviets, but 939 thousand later rejoining and 1.8 million released, we come up with approx 1.81 million "loss". But what about those who volunteered then for the Axis? The millions who did so? Of course, nothing is said of this number...
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Of these it lost 6,329,600 KIA, 555,400 deaths by disease and 4,559,000 MIA (most captured). Of these 11,444,100, however, 939,700 re-joined the ranks in the subsequently re-took Soviet territory, and a further 1,836,000 returned from German captivity. Thus the grand total of losses amounted to
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Impossible to parse. Which was the predecessor of the KGB and MVD, and convoy guards—the Soviet Armed Forces or the OGPU? Or was the convoy guards the fifth element of the Soviet Armed Forces? Why are some of these capitalized and some not?
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A unit struture and size somparison would be useful. What was the size of a Soviet Army comparted to a German or
Western allied one. What is a "front" compare to an "Army Group" etc. --
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In order to properly expand and rewrite the article on the Soviet Army Ground Forces, I'm splitting away an article on the Soviet Armed Forces as a whole. Any help's appreciated.
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Why is'nt the annexation of the three Baltic States in 1940 mentioned here? It was a part of Molotov-Ribbentroph pact also, just as sharing Polen and attacking Finland was.
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This isn't made clear in the article. Also, the Red Army isn't mentioned after World War II, is there a reason for that?
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