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information. It is something of a let-down to read through one of our excellent dinosaur articles and only way down realize that the taxobox is, once again, giving misinformation (and for professional researchers who use Knowledge as a quick-reference/literature index - i.e. basically everyone these
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Yeah, I found this to be a major problem with prehistoric taxa of disputed/unresolved affiliation. The template, as is, is simply far too rigorous for taxonomy (which is necessarily flexible); there needs to be some way to accomodate for taxonomic uncertainty. Many articles (especially Mesozoic
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I'm looking to start a series of articles on fossil Odonate genera from the Okanagan Highlands, but there is a problem. When described in 2021 the genera were placed into a newly defined suborder "Cephalozygoptera", based on head morphology detail. The erection of the suborder was quickly
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Unfortunately Odonata Central does not encompass fossil taxa at all, and as such does not take positions on the complex higher phylogeny that the fossil record entails. As it stands, we have to suborders with equal use, and no databases of reliable nature that cover the
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questioned by another paleoentomologist, who treated the name as a jr synonym of Zygoptera. There was a short series of papers from both groups advocating their positions, and now the two authors are using their preferred taxonomies, and noone else has waded in.
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Archibald, S. B.; Cannings, R. A.; Erickson, R. J.; Bybee, S. M.; Mathewes, R. W. (2021). "The Cephalozygoptera, a new, extinct suborder of Odonata with new taxa from the early Eocene Okanagan Highlands, western North America".
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Ran into this recently... I see some variance in how to handle these taxa. Very few are using the automated system. I started converting one... I ran into the family first,
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that isn't yet automated uses quoted text. What is the correct way to handle these? I was thinking of trashing and replacing everything above the species as
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Odonata Central doesn't have anything to say about it (their website is down at the moment)? If displaying "Zygoptera (?)" seem OK to you, you could
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This talkpage has been used for general discussion of issues with the automated taxobox system as a whole – taxobox templates like
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amniotes, for which there are abundant phylogenetic analyses but much disagreement still) at present give
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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If displaying "(?)" after a taxon name isn't sufficient, then use a manual taxobox (i.e.
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Is there a way to format for controversal higher taxonomy in the automatic taxoboxes?--
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taxa that don't indicate that status in any way in the article. Should titles include
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It's probably worth starting a thread at TOL to figure out what to do with
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