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as this template relies on that one. Once you get both copied over, Infobox Person should work fine. Forgive me, though...I'm concerned that if you aren't aware of how templates work, you might experience much more severe difficulties in creating an entirely new private wiki, fork or fresh copy, and I really can't help with mediawiki code if it comes to that.
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and not expect requests for additions like this. I've repeatedly looked for an awards or honours parameter for this template, and keep getting disappointed. Honours and awards are broadly useful attributes of people across many disciplines and careers, and for most people a highlight of their life.
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For instance, in Judaism, belief plays a relatively minor role in defining your membership to the group. Even when converting to Judaism, the role of the convert's beliefs is not a central part in the process. In Christianity it would seem that belief is relatively more important in determining one's
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currently says just "Alexander Graham Bell.jpg", which is not useful to someone who can't see the image (they already know it's an image of Bell from the caption). What would be more useful is alt text like "half-length monochrome photo portrait of Bell, with white beard, in a three-piece suit"; this
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Should my proposal not be accepted, I would strongly advocate that the parameter name be changed to "Religious beliefs" so that the label and parameter names are in sync. Without the paraemeter name and the display label being in symantic resonance, we are essentially corrupting the data that we are
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Ah. The parameter is "religion", the label that actually shows is "Religious beliefs". I suspect that originally the label was "Religion", but was changed to "Religious beliefs"; there may be something in the archived discussions. If the parameter were changed, then thousands of uses of the template
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I understand your concern but if I can figure this out i'll be fine. My main problem is that I don't understand exactly how it works.. from what i've seen (thoough I obviously have missed something) the data seems redundant. As in Paste this into this and then paste it again to the page you want to
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Well, as I mentioned before, you cannot copy the example. You have to copy the *source*. In other words, create a new template on your wiki, and copy the source (click the edit button here) to "Template:Infobox Person" on your wiki. You will also have to copy "Template:Infobox" to your wiki as well,
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Sorry, yes, here goes: as per the "Order" section above, the ordering of the elements in the template clearly needs changing: several elements come between a "title" and its associated parameters "term","predecessor","successor" and so on. Could these ("title" and its related parameters) be grouped
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I'm not exactly sure what you are asking about, but I'm guessing you are wondering why the infobox does not display fields in the order that you arrange them? If so, that is because the infobox has a fixed display...it doesn't matter what order the fields are written in, they will always display in
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edit back in February of this year changed "religious stance" to "religious beliefs" and I believe it has been that phrasing ever since. Before that it was just Religion, but it seems October, November of 2007 that changed. And then back to religious beliefs. There is also archived discussion, like
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It appears that they are trumping Knowledge biographical policy with their own subset of rules. It would be like the New York Wikiproject deciding that people born in New York City don't get infoboxes, or don't get birth dates added, or any other global Knowledge rule. Anyone else have an opinion?
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If I understand what you are saying... At some point the label was changed from "Religion" to "Religious beliefs." But the system is not dynamic. The label used at the time the template was inserted stays the same. How would one get an infobox to update? By simply removing that parameter and then
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WikiProjects are to some extent free to set their own standards if there isn't a wider guideline in place, and there's no mandate to use infoboxen on biographical articles at a project-wide level. The only real way to resovle this is the calmly try to persuade the WikiProjects in question to drop
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Not sure what you mean by "per the above"...is this meant to incorporate the Gunfighter template? If so, wouldn't it need to be notable_opponents? Also, perhaps it would be easier to change the sandbox to reflect what you are wanting, which would make it easier on the responding admin (unless the
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event. He is aware of these objections from long discussion elsewhere, in which he has participated, but is steaming ahead rather than waiting until he has (if he can) obtained consensus, as requested. This resul in fragmented discussion and well intentioned edits such as yours, from people not
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This is a retrograde step, and should be reverted. People are not events, and the various biographical infoboxes include a number of separate events, including things like birth, death, marriage, debut performances and office-holding. The edit causes what J_JMesserly refers to as (my emphasis)
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This template does not use the image syntax or wikilinking, it has separate fields for the image name, size and caption. You have to look at the template documentation, as there is no consistency between templates; some format it in this manner, others require that you use the full syntax and
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page, above the infobox, there's a little ] thing that should not be there; I can't follow the logic on this page, but the number "225" does not appear on the source of the page itself, so I think the template is most likely to blame.
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For many people military service is a significant enough part of their life story that it should be incorporated in their infobox. Is there a way to incorporate military info like the politician infoboxes do (see for example
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Are you trying to install this template on your own personal wiki? If so, you cannot just copy the example usage to another wiki...you need to copy the entire template code. If I'm misinterpreting your intent, let me know.
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Technical question: Is it correct that changing the display name of a template parameter will not affect the display names of parameters in infoboxes that were created before the change of the display name was made?
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I've updated the sandbox, as you suggest. I used the shorter wording for consistency and ease of typing; there are only a handful of pages which used the gunfighter template and I'm prepared to convert them manually.
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I would argue that Knowledge's current approach in this matter is skewed toward a Christian paradigm of what it means to be a member of a particular religion. That, of course, then breaks Knowledge's NPOV approach.
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Known for should definitely be high up the list. While we're here, title2, term2 might be an idea too. The conundrum is whether to keep the title/term combinations in the infobox, or use other templates for that.
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the image in an Infobox Person should have alternative text. Currently it merely uses the image name, which is not that useful for someone who can't see the image. For example, the alt text for the main image in
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Religions have varying approaches to the role that "belief" plays. In addition, religions have different approaches to the importance of belief in whether one can consider oneself an adherent to that group.
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Please specify exactly what you want changed and where: the two are fairly far apart in the template; do you want them simply reversed, or altered to a different order relative to the other parameters, or
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to the desired text. If you change the variable name, then you have to go to every article and change it; this template is used in thousands of articles. The variable name is not really critical, as the
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Lacking any reason against it, I'm going to add the additional line "| data39 = {{{misc|}}}" to the template (see sandbox). This will allow to add awards to the template, with a look similar to
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Then we can change the label text shown on the left to anything we desire. If not used, it would default to Religion; there would be no need to change any current article. You could then use it as:
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who don't use their middle names, or use a common diminutive of their first names. Is this correct, and if so, may I proceed with a slight clarification of the documentation of that field? --
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to create a preformatted appearance, and you will need to copy over both templates (the template source code) for Infobox Person to work. In any case, if you need any more help, just ask :)
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the same order. As far as I know, there is no way to allow for per-article rearrangement, and to be honest, I don't think we would want that to occur for the sake of uniform appearance.
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My guess is that those are more immediately related to the person, and the rest is more generic staff position stuff. Though I agree that Salary and Net worth seem odd in their place.
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and there doesn't seem to be any template overrides going on that I can tell, though I've known nothing about templates until today and I have limited editing experience on Knowledge.
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section, as in the general Office holder infobox. For example, the military service name be significant, but not primary - so a military person infobox might not be appropriate. —
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to have that here? I don't think that there is a high danger of arbitrary information ending up in the template since that field doesn't easily support the normal key value pairs.
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doesn't render two other parameters that were in the infobox before. I could live with losing them from the infobox, but if there were a Misc field where such subtemplates like
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No you arn't... it is my personal wiki, thing is I can't find the WHOLE template code. It would probably be less confusing if I could find it. All I can find is in this link:
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I do not believe that argument makes sense. In the case of atheists or agnostics the religion parameter can be omitted (it is not required) or "None" can be used as the value.
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How about added parameters for a person's hair and eye color? I think this would be appropriate and could be placed either before or after the height and weight parameters.
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Someone who knows what they're doing here should take a closer look and see where the problem is. I do not know if this problem afflicts other pages at the moment.
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I'm asking a technical question. If the spec shows that the label for the religion field is "religion" -- why then is the label showing up "Religious beliefs" on the
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The documentation I've seen, as well as what I've seen on other people pages, says that the display label for the "religion" tag should simply be, "Religion."
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To reiterate, I am proposing that the display label used for the "religion" tag in an infobox for a person be changed from "Religious beliefs" to "Religion."
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Yes. This should be stopped, but be aware that the issue is a contentious one, and dissent has been very aggressively stomped on in the past (for example
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How exactly does this work? I've pasted the empty template from the first example into Template:Infobox Person and all I get is template loop errors...
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IMHO it is more consistently of broad encyclopedic interest than several existing parameters (e.g. callsign, height/weight, body_discovered, boards).
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The label is what shows in the left column, the data is what shows in the right column. Label29 could be changed to any desired text with no issues.
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aware of the problems they cause. The pre-existing hCard template in the infobox is designed specifically to emit data about people, and suffices.
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describes the image to someone who can't see it, and contains info that is not necessary in a caption (which labels the image for someone who
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The parameter was coded as "Body_discovered", but was documented as "body_discovered"; these are case sensitive. I have fixed this. --—
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The display label for the "Religion" parameter was changed from "Religion" to "Religious beliefs" based on, from what I can tell, the
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Several people from musical Wikiprojects are systematically deleting infoboxes from biographies that are covered by their projects:
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it's the copy/paste from what I can find.. i've examined many different wikis through the net (anime, en.wiki, romsites, ect...)
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format which does not describe events. Further information on what this does and how to see some of the benefits may be found
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It's hard to think of all the possible combinations and I haven't checked the testcases, but this would seem the most logical:
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Can someone with more knowledge than I have, look into why the lable is not displaying and fix the problem, if possible.--
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is what's called a metatemplate. It is a template used to build other templates in a standardised format. In this case,
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use it on but with relevant data inside. Edit: this is the first time i've seen any (view source) links THANK YOU!!!
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field to this template? Current use I'd have for this is with Paris Hilton: her infobox was was recently changed from
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and the solution taken there was to add a new "alt=" parameter to the template. You can see an example of its use in
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where the subject is known by a name that is materially different than his or her given name, and not subjects like
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metatemplate, which in turn uses 'class="infobox ..."', which does much of the necessary formatting automatically.
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How is this box aligned to the right side of the page, after viewing the source, I can't find out how it does it.—
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nil. However, neither properly describes the beliefs of an atheist, agnostic or humanist. I suggest that we make
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Where is the discussion that led to the change? How and where can I make the case for going back to the old way?
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That order, not those numbers. These would have to go somewhere they'd make sense, quite high up I would think:
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associated with an individual. That said, I wonder if it would be reasonable for this template to function like
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to fit in her raspberry awards. I'm not happy with it, both because she's not foremost an actress and because
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Or whatever is desired. This gives flexibility where Religion might not be appropriate or desired. --—
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over a year ago, but apparently never followed up on. This would remove the need to use the seperate
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I think there are other subroutines that have to be copied over too for calculating ages at death. --
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together? Maybe it would be best to move "title" down to just above "term". That would be great. -
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The known_for field is clearly in the wrong place. Am I doing something wrong? Sorry if I am!
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There being no response to my above comment, please reverse the edit in question. Thank you.
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I have known_for, title, term, predecessor and successor fields, among other on the page for
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The documentation of the birth_name field has led to some confusion and even an edit war at
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This template has no reliance on age (birth or death) templates. If he wishes, he can copy
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Unsure why you aren't seeing the image in the infobox, as everything looks fine on my end.
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear, was I. Having checked the actually template, my question is:
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their deviations from project norms. In time, all projects will move towards the norm.
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in the infobox the label for the "religion" tag is displaying: "Religious beliefs."
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The order is annoying me now; even that simple change would greatly help. Thanks. -
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I'm a bit concerned that there is too much demand for more and more fields to cover
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in the template source; the change is the inserted "|{{{alt|}}}" near the end. This
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I rather agree: the semantic difference between Religion and Religious beliefs is
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Change Display Name for Religion Parameter to "Religion" from "Religious Beliefs"
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variable name is not what shows in the left column, it is the preset text set by
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field, into which subtemplates could be nested to fulfill this type of request.
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please add a section in the infobox for languages spoken, we dont have it now.
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Can you please mention somewhere to use Caucasian race instead of Caucasian?
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No, that's all that's needed. Everything else is already in place. Thank you.
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Is there really a possibility of confusing persons with a mountain range? --—
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Is it possible to add a parameter for awards and honours? This was proposed
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Let's wait until after the weekend and see if there is any other input. --—
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Per the above, please copy from the sandbox; to insert after "Occupation":
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You have it rather backwards. let's look at the template code in question:
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for that purpose, though that is beyond the scope of the current request.
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Some other good arguments for changing "Religious beliefs" to "Religion"
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is the name of the variable for data29. When adding the template you set
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This accommodates beliefs that are not a religion, such as atheism. --—
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What am I doing wrong? I've also installed parser functions already
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a variable that defaults to Religion. If we change the template to:
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including the parameter again. But that's a bit of a digression...
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Infobox Displaying the Wrong Display Label for the "Religion" Field
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Yes, now it works for me too. Apparently an intermittent glitch. __
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could be put into (as we have with several other infoboxes, like
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is that all you want added or do you want labels and data too?
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Template talk:Infobox Writer #Image should have alternate text
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When talking of a human, isn't adding race being redundant?
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and now it won't diplay. Can someone take a look at this? __
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Microformat upgrade request- no visual impact to template
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Is there an infobox for celebrity duos? For example, see
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to the sandbox shows the change that is being proposed.
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I'm arguing that the original label is much better?
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