2109:) 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Interesting stuff, if they brains are like a bird, they would eat like a bird. this ties with my Raptor bald head/neck theory(i don't want to start our arguement again), but you have to take in two factors, the shape of the raptors head, and the size off its prey, eagles don't have bald heads as they eat small prey such as fish and rabbits which are easy to disembowel, vultures eat large prey that they need to shove their head into, then theirs the shape of the head. Velociraptors tackled large prey but had a long snout that could have probed into carcasses. My idea is, smaller raptors may have had completely feathered heads as they ate lizards etc, although Velociraptor had a feathered neck but not head as it probed into carcasses with it's snout. Deinonychus and Utahraptor took on large prey like Tenantosaurus and Iguanodon, with short snouts, they had bald heads and necks but males may have had a crest of feathers or quills for display that could be flattened when feeding, they may also have had a neck ruff/mane similar to some vultures, also other parts of the body on all raptors may have been scaly, such as the legs, as all birds have scaly legs, and the hands, so the feathers don't get messy or in they way when hunting or carrying things. What do you think?
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weigh 9 tonnes and only just go over 10 mph, let alone 25 mph tops! Since you said you thought they were a bit big, what would you say a more reasonable etimate would be? How would they catch prey? Hadrosaurs and iguanodons could have been fairly fast moving, ceratopsians are a grey area when it comes to speed, but have the pontential to move faster than they look with their rhino like physique. How would a 9 tonne rex, 15 tonne carch or 13 tonne gig, chase down prey!? Sure gigs and Carchs may have hunted sauropods, but a ceratain amount of speed/ agility is required to avoid injury from them which is unlikey with these weight estimates, if you believe them, most large theropods were probably almost pure scavangers. Well, i guess we all believe differnt estimates, i believe we should take alot of things about dinosaurs, like weight, speed and other things with a 5t pinch of salt until we have concrete evidance for them, the only thing that can give us evidence is the only thing we will never have, a living dinosaur. Btw, great work on the new quetzal size graph, on the subject of azdarchids, did you hear that many scientists now think they were bad fliers, and lived mostly as ground dwelling quadrupeds, feeding in marshed and mud flats but scavanging carrion when the oppurtunity came.
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but add two additional clauses which are "for non commercial use only" and "no derivative work permitted". Since these are the same images which one of the license should be enforced? The more or the less restrictive one? In the end, all these licenses were created to protect the rights of the author (i.e. the copyright holder) against some of the most blatant rights violation (at one point someone was selling T-shirt with my dinosaur images on eBay ...) and the non commercial use seems a logical extension (the author has not given up his/her copyright so you can't sell something belonging to him/her without his/her permission, the author still being free to accept/deny the request/and any selling of an artwork means reproduction of the original so this could be considered as derivatie work). It is also a simple matter of courtesy to ask for the permission of the original author (this is easy to do and always appreciated). Ah, the intricacy of all these policies... Cheers!
2741:) 17:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Hi Dinoguy, when you read my comment above let me know what you think, i come t you today about rex speed(Again!), i was looking at that 40mph compy speed tests and compared the dino results to the ostritch/emu results and found that for anything larger an ostritch in the test would be at least 5mph, max 10mph toom slow, meaning a 25mph(in my view) is more likely, i also found it hard to believe that dilos and allos had 20 mphs top speed. Anthing smaller than emu was 5-10 mph too fast, meaning the compy didn't wizz of at 40 mph, which seemed highly unlikely too me. Can you also give me a good rex bite force idea? All i want is what you think i good idea for its bite force is, because from what uiv read it could be as low as 2 tonnes and as high as 22000 tonnes, both of which i don't believe, so what would you say is a good estimate? Also, was dilo a carnosaur or a coelophysid, i can never remeber.
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Eagle(I think thats how you spell it) don't have feathered faces, most of their head is feathered but the featheres stop behind the eyes about, i wonder as they would need to use snouts to tear carcasses to pieces, tjis would be the case with "Raptors". This brings me on to my nest question, you said that wolves and lions don't care about the rotting meat trapped in their fur( although i think because they have fur not as much gets trapped in than feathers as usully its blood in the fur, not flesh.) Usually carnivores like wolves and cheetas are pack hunters and clean each other after hunts, this may support pack living and/or hunting and they may clean each other although this seems unlikely as they probably thought more like birds than mammals. Also you said large "raptor" foot prints were found fossilised, what made his footprints or don't the people who found them know?
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proportions and do they know its species yet? Rex Build In the article it states that to different rex types have been found, gracile and robust, while these could be gender or age related, could it be that it was area and prey species related. Could some of the more robust rexes be designed to attack bulky , armoured ceratopsians and are more likely to have the engage in combat ansd sustain injury with their prey while the more gracile one was designed to chase faster moving hadrosaurs and ornithipods? Or would thse be utter rubbish as all prey lived in the same area? Hey dinoguy, in your theropod size graph were you using different estimates? As the rex was 12 metres and the gig was 13, usually they are bigger than that in your size charts. One the one in the gig article is is new or has been changed becuase i could swear its different.
2749:) 08:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC) Surely a 4 metre achillobator would be able to look a human in the eye? Also, about rex bites, a while back (1-2 years maybe) i read a paper about rex and croc bite force and by scaling up or down with the numbers and taking in issues like jaw size/shape, teeth design etc. They worked out pretty reliable bite forces for a gig, carch, spino, something else and an allo i think. The only problem is the rex bite was 4-5 tonnes which is a little weak. If i can find the papers again i might be able to scale up slightly to get a fairly good idea of other theropods bites, however finding the paper will take ours but i believe i have the data from the paper somewhere close, when ive done my setimates il tell you and show you.
2080:) and it said that there is slight possibility that ceratopsians may have been omnivorous, if the read the link the weirdest thing is it actually makes sense! In droughts hippos have been known to chase lions and crocodiles of herbivore carcasses, so in a really bad Creataceous drought, and needs must, do you think a ceratopsian may have chased tyrannosaurs of hadrosaur carcasses? Also in the fighting dinosaurs fossil, Mongolia was a desert, right? And in deserts if there is a drought thats bad enough, some animals well do anything, right? well, in the fighting dinosaurs, out of the Protoceratops and the Velociraptor, who was the one squirming on the floor, kicking madly with his claw to try and save his own skin...
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the dragon images not all of their tail is seen, fortunatley theres a komodo dragon image on their thats in lateral view. Secondly you said thefighting dinosaurs gave evidence of velociraptor being a solitary hunter, not necciserily, the rest of the pack could have seen the sandstorm coming and fled,after the sandtorm they came back and fed on the protoceratops body(remeber it was missing limbs). Lastly great work on the new deinonychus graph, also when you get a good time and have finished the squamate graph, could you make me a smilodon populator graph? Sorry for any trouble it may cause. Hey
Dinoguy, have you seen what i typed above as you haven't answered in a few days.
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one of your other messages, the one called
Deinonychus(Sorry to be nosy), and i wondrred what is Senter (2006)? Hey Dinoguy, thanks for the great smilodon graph, looking at your deinoychus graph and comparing it with size comparisons in books yours is shorter but much more accurate of course, the ones in the book come up to an average humans shoulder, their neck isn't in an s shape at all its pretty much lined up with the spine. Why is theirs bigger, but not JP sized, also i found a skeletal diagram od deinonychus that had a shorter tail than in your size graph!Il see if i can find it but in the mean time what do you think to the deinonychus height in other comparisons?
2167:) 08:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Wow, they seem so much smaller when flying, the comparison with the man and Hatzegopteryx was the one they used in the paper. Also may i request another size graph from you? This is your first modrn day request as it is for the Nile Crocodile called Gustave estimates are unsure of his size, but it is likely he is 25 ft long, the largest nile crocodile ever recorded, i want an idea of his size compared to people so you graphs came to mind immediatly, it would be extremly useful and would be good on the article too. If you could do it, Great! and thanks in advance.
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good idea of the height which is not shown in the current deinonychus size graph(Im not saying its a bad size graph as like all the others its brilliant, its just doesn't show the height very well.) Lastly i read that you are making a
Squamate size graph and im wondering how its going? I didn't mean to be nosey i just read it, i also wondered id i could help in any way as you said stencils would be hard to find( for the snakes i presume) and i have some good photos of komodo dragons from whn i went to indonesia in 2007 and i could search around for any good snake photos aswell.
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platypus evolved from. The article in Nature said that the platypus shares two genes found previously only in birds, amphibians and fish. I'm not sure if they are referring to the sex chromosome though. But even if they are, they are insinuating that reptiles don't have those sex chromosomes. Well that's strange because birds evolved from true reptiles and not synapsids which probably did have those sex chromosomes. If reptiles don't have those chromosomes, well it raises a lot of questions.
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24-25mph or should the latter not be ruled out( it seems a little "unfair" on the rex that hadrosaurs get to wizz of at 28 mph). Also while im typing, although there is no evidence of maniraptorian theropods hunting in packs wouldnt it be easier and safer to live and work in packs? Although the deinonychus find shows cannabalism, couldnt that just be a fatal confrontation with another pack trying to steal the tenontosaurus meat?
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would the impact of its high-speed "axe attacks" contain enough force to break bone? Also there are three species of
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2117:) 21:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC) I think my assumptions about what they ate are reasonable, lions have short fur and a rough tounge thats very good at cleaning, they also don't shove their heads right inside the carcass unlike vultures. Have you seen they new weight estimates on the Dinosaur Size article! They list a charch at 15 tonnes, a gig at 13 and a rex at 9! What do you think? I think they are way too heavy personally.
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are often multiple large predators in any given environment. The common explanation for this (that I agree with) is that each large predator probably occupied a different role with different prey, so that in these cases there was no true apex predator the same way a lion is said to be apex on the modern
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on birds JP's estimate might actually be accurate! Also, i know allos had a weak but force but may have used high-speed attacks to use their jaw like an axe, and i was wondering if any allo speed tests had been done? I also remeber someone that a rex would hav had a bite force of tonnes and a gig had a bite force of 3 tonnes, do you think this is a good estimate?
1277:, you're right, it came out a bit big, but that represents about the max flexion of the tail, as far as I know, or did when the artist drew it. Finding a decent profile view of this animal is nearly impossible... And 4444hhhh, how are you defining bird? Aves sensu Gauthier? Sensu Sereno? Sensu Charig? Or maybe Avialae sensu Gauthier? Or sensu Senter?
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don't know how many species the genus has. But what I can do? It's difficult to find the most needed papers:( I've seen that you're an expert, not only in the dinosaur field, but in general paleontology, and if you have access to good Dunkle papers, I will be grateful if you give me some important data from them. Thanks again.
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due to muscles in its tail, is there evidence of this in other dinosaurs? Lastly due to deinoychus sickle claws, the running speed has been reduced to no more than 20-25 mph, would this speed reduction apply to other maniraptorian theropods due to their sickle claws?Nice work on the new size diagrams by the way.
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bird), Utahraptor ostrommayum, and
Gigantoraptor erlianensis? This needs even less priority that the other one, so don't do it if you want, but, please, comunicate me if you don't do it. I appologice if I consume too much time out of your schuledude, and let me know if you feel I am abusing your stedyness.
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was mentioned there on the 16th, and is showing in the latest archives today (the 18th). So there seems to be a 1 or 2-day lag. Google is still only showing Wiki in the search results for
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If you can handle these, I can handle most of the rest. Then I'd suggest making templates of these images and saving in them in some useful place, e.g. a sub-page off
Wikiproject Dinosaur. Someone showed me how to index them as well, so I'd do that one it's agreed where to store them and how to link
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Hi there, since you're an IP and don't have a talk page yet I'll just reply here. Determining what the "apex" predator is in a given environment isn't an exact science (if it's science at all, seems more subjective description to me. But anyway.). Especially in
Mesozoic dinosaurs, in which case there
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it seems the platypus contains some genes that are more similar to birds. This I found unusual because mammals evolved from
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an "amphibian". It's correct from a descriptive standpoint, if not a cladistic one. And I don't think "bird" has been given a phylogenetic definition. Anyway, I wouldn't do this for an image intended for Knowledge. This was done as a private request (see above) and not intended for use in an article.
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I knew there was something odd about that skeleton, anyway i read somewhere, that a large dilo could be 6.5-7 metres, is this true? Also in the giant birds graph, you claimed deinoychus as a bird, do you think it was not a dinosaur at all and 100% bird, and would you say a deinoychus is morec closely
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Hi Dinoguy, thanks for accepting to do the size graph, i never new the smilodon articles had one until you told me yesterday. As for allos, differant theropods are designed for differant prey, a rex wouldn't reach the bone of a sauropod and would struggle to hunt, an allo wouldn't hav to much trouble
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Hi Dinoguy! I was wondering, have any large theropod eggs ever been found? We know from fossils that hadrosaurs, ceratopsians and small theropods laid theirs in large clutches, do you think big theropods would have laid theirs in large clutches or small? Do you think they may have made a type os nest
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Hey Dinoguy, thanks for accepting the smilodon offer and giving me the dave pictures, i never knew you had a whole list of requests! Maybe you should have a request page like Arthurweasly, what other size graphs are you doing st the moment? D Hey Dinohguy, hows the smilodon graph coming along? I read
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Hi Dinoguy, in dino autopsy the hadrosaur running position was with its tail raised in the air and its front body closer to the ground with its arms tucked in, do you know what positions maniraptorian, tyrannosaur, and carnosaur theropods would have been in while running? Also the hadrosaurs was fast
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I didnt mean the deinonychus having a turf war, more like hyanaes stealing kills of lions (or vice versa) but some members of th flock could have been to hungry to give up the kill and tried to protect it but were overpowered by the other pack. Also in the rex speed they had the same weight estimates
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Hi Dinoguy, i hope you had a merry christamas and a happy new year. You said that juvenile rexes had more ornithimimid leg proportions, what size, weight or age did they lose these? Also the newest speed theory for a rex is 18 mph, what makes this estimate more reasonable then the theory of it moving
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Thanks for the note! I wasn't aware of the non-commercial use clause in Commons. There is a question though when an image is uploaded by an author on two different sites such as Commons and dA but with a slightly different license. On dA for instance it is clearly stated that it is licensed under CC
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Hey Dinoguy! Just wondering if you know about the new series starting on the history channel next Tuesday called Jurassic Fight Club. It takes 2 or 3 dinosaurs from the same time and using dinosaur forensics, sees who would win in a fight. Personally i think it looks quite good and will hopefully be
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Regarding the extinction event, it seems that it wiped out all of the larger lifeforms like sauropods and large theropod dinosaurs. It seems that the extinction event made the environment hostile to larger animals but not smaller animals. So I guess we can assume that small dinosaurs survived? Could
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I belive he said that because birds are also descendants of the last common antecesor of all extant reptiles. Also, Reptiles is what amniotes with do not belong either to mamalia or aves are classified. But, unlike mammals, aves are not basal to the whole of actual reptiles, but are actually a crown
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Hi Dinoguy2, Any chance of having a Knowledge page for the Institute of Geology, Mongolia in Ulan Bator? So many fossils have IGM 100 numbers that it would be nice to have a list somewhere that could be added to as more fossils are added. It took me quite a while to even find out what IGM stood for,
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Hey Dinoguy! I was wondering if dinosaurs, particulally maniraptorians, may have exibited sexual display plumage, like a pheasant or peacock? it was pretty much brought on by a doodle of a Velociraptor i did earlier, and i also wonder if they may have been other sexual dimorphism between dinosaurs?
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Hey Dinoguy! When you read this please read the other things i typed above, anyways i was bored and read the T.rex talk page, and you said that the largest gig specimens(14 metres) were younger than Sue, sue was an elderly rex and a good deal bigger than younger rexes, this lead me to speculate that
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Hey Dinoguy! I was wondering about biteforce, the lowest estimate for a rex is about 1-2 tonnes and the highest is about 4 tonnes, whic would you say is the most reasonable? A while back i asked you about spino bite force, a crocs skull can take alot of pressure and deal out alot of bite fotce and a
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Hey dinoguy, the diagrams wren't upright, just taller and its odd i could swear in the skeletal its has a shorter tail but then thats just me, did you use the diagram as the stencil for the graph? Also, in the diagrams in the book, one or two were fairly new and standing like in the skeletal diagram
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Hey Dinoguy, i was wondering about maniraptorain theropod feathers and most birds dont have feathered legs, their thighs are feathered but usually the have scaly legs and i was thinking this would be the case in "Raptors" also, although not all, some birds, usually birds of prey such as the Battleur
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Hi Dinoguy in the utahraptor size graph it seems taller than in the giant birds one, also in everybook iv read with a size comparison the utahraptor always seems taller. You also said that its hard to get a good stencil for deinobychus, so why not use ArthurWeasly's picture as this would also give a
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Thanks for telling me all you know, i doubt T-rex would be 8 tonnes in the first place, 7 yes, but 8 no. The most reasonable estimate for the biggest T. rex found(Sue) was 6.8 tonnes which is close to 7. The weight estimate they were using for 25 mph rex was 6-8 tonnes. Also with smaller hadrosaurus
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NEED MOOOORE!. Right now you have given me a severe addiction to scale charts. Need my next doze! It's been a while and in the rehab they told me I am a hopeless fiend... Even a scale chart of a treeshrew and a mammoth would be fine.... ANYTHING!!! (delete my stupid comment if you want... just DO A
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Hey dinoguy! From looking at how long raptor and human legs are and comparing the speed, I think I have come up with some "fairly reasonable" raptor speeds. Velociraptor-Due to short legs and size only about 15-20 mph. Deinonychus- From fairly medium size anything from 18-22 mph. Achillobator- Legs
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Looks like I made more mess than I thought-- I see you're replacing "to" with hyphens. Thanks for being friendly about all this. It's not often that I can upset someone and yet they act forgivingly. Makes me want to go look for a barnstar after I clean up the mess. Unfortunately, this mess will
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But I have a problem, I can't found the exact size of the animal I want to compare in a scale diagram. It's Dunkleosteus, some sources says that reaches 8-10 meters, while other 6 meters. I was working on the article of spanish wikipedia and I think the info there can be a bit wrong. Also because I
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Thanks! It looks great, I'd put it on the article, quick before anyone else put another size graph like they did with the Smilodon. Its amazing how big Coelophysis looked in WWD, in real like it only came up to your hip, but in WWD it looked much taller, and on the Dilo article at the bottom of the
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Hey dinoguy! Thanks for telling me about parental care, i guess its one of the hardest things to estimate in dinosaurs but (for once) JP might og actually got something right, in the lost world, a pair of T.rex both help nuture the young, whilst in most popular culture its only the female and based
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Hi Dinoguy, my estimate for the deinoychus speed was more of a rough guess than a good estimate, and i was wondering it deinonychus may have been a little faster than i first thought. Velocirator's speed was 25 mph and deinoychus was bigger and had a longer stride length, would deinoychus have been
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Hey Dinoguy! Im looking into some Late Jurassic Carnivores at the moment, and one of your size graphs would be helpful and greatly appreciated. If you could, can you make a size graph with the average and largest sizes for Ceratosaurus and Allosaurus? Also, could you put the 12.1 metre epanterias,
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Hey Dinoguy! When they compare brain scans of allos/rexes, etc. They always seem to find its near identical to a croc's brain, do you think large theropods were as smart, smarter, or dumber than crocs? As crocodiles are very intelligent reptiles, capable of learning quickly, planning, and possible
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I have fixed all instances I worked on (didn't take more than a few minutes, thankfully!), except the grasshopper and the species which went extinct during the Quaternary with no prior fossil record (or fossils dating back only to 1600s, 1800s, 1900s), mostly marsupials and a manatee. Let me know
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Hey Dinoguy! Are you busy as you haven't replied to me in two weeks now. And i was wondering, in the most northenly part of north america, how much snow would dinosaurs like a T.rex have seen? Also do you believe dinosaurs are warm-blooded(endothermic), i certainly do, if you read this please read
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Hey Dinoguy, do you have a high res image of the dave fossil? Also, hows deinonychus size grapg coming along?dId you have a look at the image on the critter-shack link, it could even be useful for other size graphs if you find a decent veiw. Hey Dinoguy, first off, i apologise i now i look back on
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Hi dinoguy, il upload the Komodo dragon images as soon as possible,but one thing first, how do you up load images? Also there is a background on them but hopefully that wont change alot. Ive found a link with a good deinoychus image although it doesn't have alot of feathers but hopeflly that won't
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Hi dinguy, i was wondering about speeds of smaller hadrosaurs such as parasaurolophus and corythosaurus and have their been any studys? If not, what would you say a reasonable estimate would be? Also in your size charts deinonychus was 11ft, in JP3 the deinonychus were 13ft i found a size graph of
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It's certainly the stability that makes it most attractive of any of the clades for a category. I hadn't thought about it leading to other categories, but I see your point. To tell the truth, I was more concerned about the fact that azhdarchoid, azhdarchid, Azhdarchoidea et al. are kind of paleo
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Hi, I'm thinking of drawing an Alxasaurus, or some other therizinosaur we don't have, eating leaves or similar, since I've done a lot of rather "sterile" drawings already, it could be cool with some drawings showing behaviour. But then comes the problem of what kind of plants existed at the exact
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I would like to know what kind of sex chromosomes reptiles have. The article said, "the sex chromosomes of the Platypus are more similar to the ZZ/ZW sex chromosomes found in birds.", well if amphibians and reptiles don't have those chromosomes, then that would raise a lot of questions about what
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But not all vultures eat meat. Anyway, about the weight, im taking it with a 5t grain of salt alright, Gigs and Carchs were only 2-3 metres longer than a rex, but weight 5-7 tonnes more, and were meant to be lightly built! And im having difficulty believing a rex could be be "Built for Speed" and
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Hi dinoguy, with the rex speed estimates, if they had the same weight estimate (6-8 tonnes) why were they different or would that be all the "Technical Stuff" on the computer. Also, apart from Edmontosaurus and Anatotitan, what other hadrosaurs lived alongside rexes to match up to the dino mummys
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Hey Dinoguy, when you read this be sure to take a look at my size graph request too. Thanks in advance. Anyways, the largest estimate for a giga is about 14 metres/47 ft from fragmentary remains right? Do you have a link to anywhere saying this? I'd love to see it. Also, out of the various carch
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Erm, sorry to bother you again, but I am having a debate about feather presence in Deinonychus anthirropus, and my opponents are using size as a counterargument. So, if you could, could you make another diagram with Deinonychus anthirropus, Struthio camelus (Ostrich), Aepyornis maximus (Elephant
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Hi Dinoguy, First of i noticed your new size chart, very good! Just one thing, i never heard of an 18 metre Megalodon, i only know 15-16 metre ones, do you know where and 18 metre estimate is? Also about Allosaurus, it had an over-engineered skull that couldn't break bone with mere bite-fore but
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Hey Dinoguy, maybe it varied between raptors but unforyintaley we don't know for all yet, after reading what you said have any deinonychus fossils been found in Canada (Is Maryland in Canada i can never remember) and yes sometimes cheetas hunt in family groups but not all the time. Although they
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Hi Dinohuy, Thanks for answering my questions. On the gig article on the picture of the gig skull it states it is 47 ft long, is this the largest estimat because i thought the biggest was 46-45 ft long. Also have you seen arthur weasleys gig pic? I belive it should be on the article, what do you
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Thanks for your reply. Your user name suggests you could be an expert in a biological field. If you know Unwin's book, and believe it could be a reference for the use of traditional taxonomy, perhaps you could add it to the article. It would be interesting to know if Unwin has 'cladistic' in the
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He Dinoguy! Hows the graph coming along? Anyways, about carnotaurus, looking at various differant books and websites, they all seem to have differant size estimates, the lowest being 6.5 metres and the largest 9 metres, which would you say is the most accurate. How many carnotaurus's have been
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That is weird! Where in South America are Carnotaurus's fossil finds? Maybe it could have preyed on Saltasaurus? Also, while were on the subject on Carnotaurus's hunting, how do you think it used it jaws? Their so odd, maybe, being similar to a bulldogs it applied a stranglehold with them on a
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And uh, that's kinda funny too, images on Knowledge sure get around! I still get impressed when I see pictures uploaded here used in other contexts for some reson... Anyway, is there a chance that your Nyctosaurus image will be fixed so it can be used in the article, it's a pretty cool image.
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as well? Also is the DinoForum working on your compute? When you first gave me the link it was fine and the next day i was going to make an account, but the servers were down for ages and know all its is is a webpage with foreign writing on it, is this on your computer as well?
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all jp dinos and the JP deinonychus seem huge compared to the ones in your size graph whens its only 2ft. im finding a link for you but in the meantime what dou you think to my Questions (including the hadro speed one and the rex speed one you missed). Heres the JP link.
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I'm using "bird" in the vernacular sense here, which, according to my dictionary, means a warm-blooded egg laying animal with feathers and wings. All the animals included match that criterion. "Bird" is not even a taxonomic group, as Amphibia is, so actually calling
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related to a pidgeon than a triceratops? also, great work on the anomalocaris size graph! Interesting Stuff! Would you say some theropods are real birds, or that birds are actually dinosaurs? Aren't Dinosaurs, Crocs and birds part of a group called Archosaurs?
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Insteresting stuff, don't the deer and sheep live on islands that lack certain minerals so they eat the baby seabirds? Anyway, the elephant thing is just scary, i also have a question about raptor brains, would you say the more like a birds or a
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Hey Dinoguy, thanks for accepting the smilodon offer and giving me the dave pictures, i never knew you had a whole list of requests! Maybe you should have a request page like Arthurweasly, what other size graphs are you doing st the moment?
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evidence, all maniraptorans are birds under that definition. And also dinosaurs--all birds are dinosaurs, but not all dinosaurs are birds. Figuring out which dinosaurs are birds is pretty easy, but varies based on what definition you use.
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Hey Dinoguy! Have you seen my biteforce questiones above? I was wondering if you could please tell me what you use as the gig template in size graphs? Hey dinoguy!, did you see what i wrote as you haven't answered in for awhile now.
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3405:) 09:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Interesting, theropods may be smarter than we give them credit for, also reading some else's question, gigs didn't live alongside argentinosaurus?! A part of me just died.;)
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group of them. Not to mention, they are the closest living relatives to crocodiles; and both crocodilians and lizards are closer to them that to turtles. Take a look at the cladogram in the Reptile page:
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Hey Dinoguy, good luck with the sizechart and did you hear about the newest maniraptorain theropod discovered in S.America? Austroraptor, five metres long and arms like a t.rex, sounds a little weird.
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discovered also? Lastly, whilst were on abelisaurs, did you hear about the new one discovered? Scorpiovenator? Cool, Merry Christmas for when it arrives, also, good to hear about the new carnotaur.
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article that shows the different size estimates of that crocodilian. It would be very helpful if I had a version with original layers that is designed for programs like Photoshop or Gimp.
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That's funny...I didn't revert any of those back to mid-Cretaceous. I actually thought I was helping clean up poorly done fossil ranges. Maybe my unknowing action will help the push.
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earlier this year. Don't worry if it's a lot of trouble, I should try out the Annotated image approach on the existing scale pic first, as I can easily remove the legend from that. --
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article. You are right. Birds are dinosaurs. I say that a lot and people don't believe me. They think it's weird when I say that the kiwi is my favorite dinosaur.
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Sorry about your hard drive - come to thank of it, I think you may have mentioned it in a similar conversation at
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and the smallest allosaur, and any small Cretaceous or late Jurassic theropod, plus the inevitable hapless human.
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we say that all of the small dinosaurs that survived were theropod dinosaurs that eventually evolved into birds?
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Do you have access to JSTOR? There are very important and neccesary papers about the species and nomenclature.
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I have to admit, people are likely to find the name "Giantbirds" for this image confusing or controversial. --
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1894:(It may interest you to know you are the first Wikipedian ever to receive this award! Have a wonderful day!)
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for editing? I like the basic design of this image a lot, but I would like to make a special version for the
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Hey Matt, could you email me on john.a.conway@gmail.com - I have a project I'd like to discuss with you. --
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The part of this that directly concerns you, if you're kind enough to take it up, is the "Sizes" image in
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Hey Dinoguy, you pretty much anwered eveything. I was wondering what a good idea of a T.rex bite force
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Megalodon shark, which should be 18 metres (60 feet) long (as this is a widely accepted estimate now.)
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I hope you aren't to busy, are you still willing to help me with the prehistoric park test edits?
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Hey there's a question on the science board which I think you might be able to answer.
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probably have to wait until tomorrow, as I need to look for a better job yet this week.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Hey Dinoguy! I read an article about ceratopsids, (heres the link:
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May I request you again a size chart? Sorry for any inconveniance.
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What did you mean by that? How are they technically reptiles?
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article. Is there a way of using a taxobox in this case ?
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Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Tyrannosaurus#Swimming.3F
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Dinoguy2, could we discuss farther into Dinos-Birds?
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After watching a show on the History channel called
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are different sizes, bu the text is the same size (
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4121:http://the_dinosauria.tripod.com/segnosaurus.jpg
3171:North Africa--I assume you're talking about the
1268:a bird is *more* appropriate than calling, say,
2216:Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon
1844:was partly driven by some recent happenings on
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1918:Thank you so much it looks great!!!
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2891:About platypus evolution
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1961:Tell me what you think.
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1776:Image used on NG channel
1671:that you should review.
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3777:Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
3254:is not just a juvenile
621:Thanks for tellng me.
4031:Firsfron of Ronchester
3348:Firsfron of Ronchester
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2695:Requesting assistance
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1067:Sarcosuchus imperator
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3577:list of participants
3431:Copyright permission
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1085:Crocodylus niloticus
1073:Deinosuchus hatcheri
3783:Epanterias amplexus
3747:. IIRC from an old
3208:Rio Limay Formation
3185:Carcharodontosaurus
3142:Jurassic Fight Club
3065:Jurassic Fight Club
1451:I'm working on the
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1079:Gavialis gangeticus
3808:Talk:Tyrannosaurus
3173:Baharija Formation
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2101:crocodiles?
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1587:D. terrelli
1522:69.76.52.74
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1275:Deinonychus
1266:Deinonyhcus
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4389:Archive 10
4322:Westivoja
4250:Abelisaurs
4197:J. Spencer
4181:J. Spencer
4092:J. Spencer
4088:Dinogenera
3571:: Rollcall
3485:. Thanks,
3462:ScienceApe
3275:Bagaraatan
3236:Andesaurus
3216:Mapusaurus
3123:ScienceApe
3102:ScienceApe
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2554:ScienceApe
2511:Sauropsida
2329:Quaternary
2258:Quaternary
2251:Quaternary
1516:suchomimus
1132:Steveoc 86
123:EdJohnston
107:EdJohnston
99:Cladistics
90:Archive 10
4381:Archive 5
4376:Archive 4
4370:Archive 3
4364:Archive 2
4359:Archive 1
3895:Dinosaurs
3734:Arthropod
3730:Arthropod
3265:. Unless
2933:Eriorguez
2856:new image
2591:Eriorguez
2501:DAB links
2491:review me
1842:talk:Bird
1696:Megalodon
1292:Updated.
1270:Tiktaalik
1113:Eriorguez
1099:Eriorguez
1051:Eriorguez
1037:Eriorguez
82:Archive 5
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71:Archive 3
65:Archive 2
60:Archive 1
4312:Dinoguy4
4295:contribs
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4338:archive
4237:Abyssal
4055:Abyssal
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4008:to the
3912:Vuerqex
3832:Philcha
3812:Philcha
3793:Philcha
3531:Tuatara
3487:Nergaal
3318:et al.'
3308:removed
2900:birds?
2507:Reptile
1854:Shyamal
1585:, that
1502:Finavon
1487:Finavon
1017:Sheep81
121:index!
39:archive
4230:Favor?
3891:Birds
3706:images
3538:Mokele
3483:wp:GAN
3364:SharkD
3256:T. rex
3248:T. rex
2439:WP:TOL
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2030:About
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