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Signpost on recent policy or guideline-related matters. Since there has been a lot of things to do with templates recently, I decided to take that as a sub-topic. One of the matters addressed is the recent deprecation of Template:Substub. So what I'd
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Hey, I need a favor. I'm going to be camping in the woods for the next week (with no internet!!!) from the 23rd through the 27th. Could you watch my various user pages while I'm gone and revert any vandalism? Not that I'm expecting a deluge of vandals upon my departure, but I'd rather be cautious.
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I only tag things with a substub if they are nothing more than a line for a subject that pretty likely deserves an article, and I don't have the time to add enough to make them a stub. I have no particular attachment to the template, tho - I'm certainly not keen on folks starting articles this way.
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Hi, again. I totally forgot about the
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Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Although the voting period just ended with a 14-8-2 vote, I will admit once and for all that I used it more as an evaluation of myself. Being promoted would have been a plus. I was more interested in who voted, when they voted, who would change their votes and
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Apologies if you took my comments personally (perhaps I should have added one of those horrible smiley things) - I have no wish to upset you, as my feelings on your edits are equally positive. However, the term is widely used in some parts of New
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Its amazing isn't it how this page continues to grow, and hopefully after Friday, a lot more New
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Jerusalem ought to qualify as European royalty). Also, the message at the bottom is simply
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Thanks for saying that so politely. (I'm not being sarcastic.) You're perfectly entitled to your own opinion, and I have to say that on some level I agree with you. However, the issue is dead to me. I intend to ease back into
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Yes, I know - I've actually done some editing work on that page. You might also note that it is not official policy, just a recommendation, as there is not a clear consensus supporting it. If there was any way that I could put my signature as a text item I would. Unfortunately, my signature
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Its ok. I did run a spell-check on the article, so it is clean now, spelling wise. My main concern is the
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Hey James, you wrote "Support - with caveat. Looks good, and you've got my support so long as you manage to get better translations! The Babelfishiness of those translations is pretty obvious. Grutness...wha? 05:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)." I just want to know what sections do you think sound
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Dear James, I won't tell Cyberjunkie (though he or she may read it here), but I can assure you that this is the first time in my 64 years in New Zealand that I have come across the idea that the term "Australasia" is used in New Zealand to refer to Australia and Papua New Guinea,
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I'm not sure if you know who I am or not. You're someone that I know by sight, but I started in 1996, and finished in 2003, so I'm not sure if you know who I am or not. I worked with Tamar, we share the same first name, and you may be able to infer my surname from my username...
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No, it's fine. But damn, I always wish that welcome messages and the like didn't urge people to "be bold". I wasn't at all bold when I started, and my lack of boldness (plus my ability to spell, etc.) saved people a lot of trouble. Re-reversion of
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incorrect (and grammatically vague). Monarchs aren't nobles, not always, and vice-versa. I really object to this conflation, and I don't think it's that great a hardship for editors to look through two categories instead of one.
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Hi Grutness! Yeah, I'm one of the few who actually use the substub tag... I think they serve a purpose, but at the same time those articles that deserve "substub" should generally be deleted. I'm open to any and all ideas.
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Hi Zach - I really don't know enough about the subject to have any idea about whether it's good (although it does look good, and I will have a look from the point of view of editing, grammar and the like).
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Just thought it would be most useful there. Are there any other projects that might be able to use it (A Ukrainian one, or a Belarus one, perhaps? Or just a 20th century history one?)
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Hey. To let you know, I am (painstakingly) trying to draw the Kiwidraw image into a png file. I want to let you know of this before I start to change templates and things like that.
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I will place it at the Wikiportal sometime soon. But thanks for telling the Project people. I personally think the project is done, with everything shifting over to the Wikiportal.
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I also added those pages to my watch list, so your covered. Plus, to Grutness, does WikiPortals work better than WikiProjects? I created one for Russia, and I hope it works well.
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Hi, I was just about to mention it and I didn't wan't to start a new post. The server has been acting up lately (for me anyway) and putting images is just an extra strain.
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much more interesting and rewarding than the European subjects I've done, as this has been more discovery (for me anyway) I had never heard of him two months ago!
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