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Well, I put them on there, and I have good and bad results (mostly bad). The good news is, I was able to trim down the "2004 address" section. The bad news is pretty much everything else; not many of the concerns I brought up are even considered "concerns" by some editors, and they have merely tossed
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Thanks for alerting me to the page. I had become so disliked over there that I just decided to leave my comments and go after a certain point, so I had not been regularly checking them. I just did, however, and found the article to be 100% more neutral. Thanks for listening to most of what I said; I
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I've been reading over your comments left at my list on the talk page, and largely agree with your edits. I have left some more slight comments on a few of the sections and another proposal that I would like to get your opinon on under "Cultural and political image". Thanks for everything,
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Okay, I have a list assembled on some issues. Would you like me to present it on the talk page now? After reading over the talk page, there are multiple discussions going on about POV; perhaps by introducing this list, the focus can be concentrated to a single discussion.
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Just want to say that despite my favoring of sprot for pages like this, I'm against fprot too - it's damaging. As are the neutrality tags that have been slapped on all over the place. So we'll have to just keep trying - Happy, it's good to have your help.
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