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6919:, because they're countries, and don't even bother with considerations about which one is better known (implicitly, most "important"). Either that or have wikipedia create a comprehensive list on unlinkable terms, presuming this is ever feasible. "In the lead section of any article, links should be kept to an absolute minimum and only be to those where there's a good chance the reader will need an explanation." - that is personal preference too, and adds another layer of subjectivity (who is to judge that likelihood, and starting from what criteria?). Surely there is a compromise way between a soup of internal links and a purely editorial judgment about terms should not be linked - I believe I have found that compromise in articles I have written, but you're of course free to disagree. 8332:

faced by Halkett, in needing to be small enough to carry strapped to a pilot's back, light enough not to weigh down a parachutist, rapidly inflatable at short notice, and stable enough to survive freezing conditions in the North Sea). These in turn trace back to Goodyear and Hancock's early rubber dinghies, rather than to Halkett—to the best of my knowledge, Halkett's designs were completely abandoned after his death. The abandoning of the search for the Northwest Passage and the shift of European focus to Africa and India meant less use for inflatable craft in the later 19th century; inflatable boats would have been a liability in a colonial war zone as they're so easily punctured by a well-aimed spear or arrow, and they were too lightweight to carry weapons or trade goods. –

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if the institution has its POV inserted in the article. The former would be a conflict of interest and the latter would be attempting to game the system by undermining neutrality. This is not Coca-cola offering free Coke for anyone who writes an FA about the company - this is a publicly funded organisation whose mission is broadly the same as Wikimedias - to share knowledge with people. The FA Prizes (which - by the way - the Hoxne challenge is not a part of) is the museum deliberately saying "you can chose the subject, we'll help you improve it and we will accept your judgment of whether it's good quality". Recall also that the prize isn't cash - it's a voucher at the museum shop so the money stays within the organisation. And, if you say that you're not inherently against

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only right to finish them since most of the content was finished off of wikipedia at the time of his Arbcom. I do see his point, but I don't have the strength to go through FAR's on my own. He suggested the two of you as potential collaborators, but if you don't care to do it, then waiting is the best option. I worked on the poetry project only long enough to know that it was completely useless; quality content tends to come from only the most active editors, who in turn tend to get in the most conflicts with other editors. Frankly, I don't have the stomach for wiki politics, so I am perfectly content waiting for someone to step up and getting caught up on reading until OR is allowed to return:)

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to lead both to bad press and to bad feeling. If Knowledge were serious about improving coverage of the history of arts, literature and philosophy in Britain, the most useful action they could take (by quite a long way) would be to unblock Ottava and Peter Damian. That there's no chance of either happening is a sign of the current internal culture of Knowledge—that building the community has become an aim in itself, over and above improving the content. I have no issue with the BM project as a concept—if I get the time, I'll try to send a couple of FAs your way if you want—but as long as that prize contest is in place, I don't want to be associated with it or to have my name attached to it.

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a greater degree and if folk want to spend time in promoting their cause I don't mind at all. However, I have a practical question on similar lines. I am researching the sad story of Lady Grange, who being an aristocratic lady of 18th century Edinburgh speaks a form of English. However I am puzzled by some of her turns of phrase. When she says of her husband (who had her kidnapped and banished into penury) "He told me he loved me two years or he gott me and we lived 25 years together few or non I thought so happy" can anyone confirm she is saying something like "He told me he loved me for two years before I agreed to marry him and we lived 25 years but few if any were happy."?

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interest. As I understand it, the play and film treated Treves's account as accurate despite its likely exaggeration of Merrick's suffering prior to being "discovered" by Treves, and has led to a distorted "he led a barely-human life beforehand, but the nice doctors made him an experimental subject and talked to him, so then he was happy" oversimplification. If that's the case, what you want to be doing is illustrating how Treves's account and the film/play differ from what's actually likely to have happened, while leaving the broader details for the articles on the film and play. But don't take my opinion as gospel; there's no "right way". –

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like using them unless I intend to draw attention to whatever follows the first dash in the sentence. For breaking points within a sentence, I find semicolons far tidier. I can't see any obvious candidates for splitting in that article; we don't want to be overcomplicated, but equally we don't want to dumb down for the sake of the lowest common denominator among our readers. Teratology is not exactly a popular field, and 18th-century teratology is vanishingly obscure. Most readers of this article will be people with a working knowledge of revolutionary France or 18th-century medicine, and I don't really want to take a

4458:), I've always had severe reservations about it. I think it (and its cousins Wikicup and Triple Crown) suffer from the same problem the Award Center had, in that they encourage people to worsen Knowledge's reputation as a den of pointless trivia by submitting ridiculously boring facts to DYK, and to clog Knowledge's strained processes by submitting articles at GAN which already meet (or almost meet) the FA criteria. It's also part of why I'm coming more and more to the idea that the yellow stars should be removed from FAs and that WBFAN be deleted; there's a lot to be said for removing the status from DYK/GA/FA. – 11870: 5411: 648:

talkpage.) The unwritten nature of Knowledge's governance makes it less obvious as to what's going on when it comes to the influence of these undeclared Knowledge Illuminati on the project—the admins hold their squabbles centrally on noticeboards, but the real business of steering Knowledge generally takes place on obscure talkpages; it's certainly not ideal, but cooking up deals and compromises in the dingier corridors, rather than on central discussions where a hundred passers-by all demand to have their say, is the only way to get anything done on a reasonable timescale other than imposing rule by fiat.

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states in any sense; they have the same responsibilities and authority as any other province. I have the general sense that Scotland and Wales have essentially similar autonomy within the United Kingdom; that is, the higher level government being responsible for nation-wide initiatives and broad brushes of major social policies, treaties, foreign policy, and defense; and the lower levels being responsible for the more front-line application of social policies, region-specific issues, and the day-to-day operations of the usual public services. Of course, I'm probably woefully uninformed about the UK...

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the impossibility of meaningful enforcement of standards when the article/admin ratio is 3,900:1, and the lack of any governing body following the effective abdication of Jimbo & co from internal administration without leaving any alternative power structure in place. Who is and isn't an admin is a lot less important than it sounds—a lesson most admin hopefuls learn the hard way when they finally "level up" and pass RFA, only to discover that it's a title that gives you no more respect from anyone other than your fellow admin-hopefuls, a group about whose opinion nobody else cares. –

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Knowledge's core contributor base; they're the demographics who end up spending lots of time stuck indoors at unsocial hours with nothing much to do except goof around on the net.) The former tend to have spent their lives surrounded by people telling them how bright they are, and probably at school are/were the most gifted person in their class, so feel a real culture shock when they come up with people who tell them they're wrong and/or don't treat them with the respect they think they deserve. (It's not their fault—if you've spent your whole life being told how great you are, why

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gradual evolution. If you want that setup changed, you need not only to show that you understand the current setup and what the pros and cons of it are, but you need to demonstrate why the 12,636,026 other users on this project should listen to you. People like Malleus and Giano are listened to when they complain about the system, because they've put in the hours both to write multiple high quality articles and to help others, and even they have both been blocked repeatedly for behaviour no more disruptive than the kind of thing you've been doing lately. (That is

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statement that "the idea that we should ever accept paid advocates directly editing Knowledge is not ever going to be ok". (My original question still stands; how is the BM paying people to write on their collection ethically any different from one of the smaller British local authority owned museums paying people to write on their collection? If there's no difference, how does it differ from the local authorities paying people to write on their other services or the areas they cover? It's worth reiterating that, while Greg Kohs certainly hates Knowledge

14896:. There's no point antagonising people for no reason, if there's an easy way to reword whatever you were about to say that won't offend them. (To take a comment from that Joseph Merrick discussion above, "retarded" is an absolutely standard term in the US, but we don't use it on Knowledge because it has offensive connotations in Britain.) Giano said long ago that the best way to approach Knowledge is to assume everyone is 14 years old, and it's good advice; try not to say anything you wouldn't say to a 14 year old whom you don't know very well. – 2935:"-ize" is certainly acceptable in British English use. However, the article as it stands mixes-and-matches "-ise" and "-ize"; it also mixes US-specific terms like "World War II" with spellings that are never used in US English such as "armour". The individual examples don't matter—it's beyond doubt that at the moment it mixes different variants. That's not a particular problem—it happens to most articles that have more than one active editor—but if not fixed it would be enough to get it quickfailed at FAC, which is the point under discussion. – 15470: 2259:

referendums; Vermont elects its governor for two years). All German states have unicameral parliaments, I believe (in fact, Bavaria was special before 2000 in having a Senate), and Bavaria's referendums are local only. The CSU I'll grant you, but Canada has much larger variation among the political parties in its provinces. Gibraltar's being part of South West England is only a quirk for the EP elections, and the UN list is largely meaningless. Heligoland is only outside the custom and VAT areas, which shouldn't be too hard to explain.

11737: 5278: 3096:). FAC will be different from what you're used to; large numbers of people will turn up to give often contradictory pieces of advice, and what you'll need to do is decide which pieces of advice you'll follow, which you'll disregard, and when you do disregard a suggestion be prepared to explain why you're not going to follow it. The other think to be aware of is to make very sure your sources say what you're quoting them as saying; at GAN people are looking at style, whereas at FAC they're looking at content and accuracy. – 15462: 11707: 5248: 16366: 11788: 5329: 159:

focus on the article subject. On Knowledge, where we can't assume that the reader has any prior knowledge, generally needs far more general background to the articles; while wikilinking gives us the luxury of not having to explain everything, my general attitude is "if someone were given a printout of this article and couldn't read any of the linked pages, would they still understand it?". I find that's quite a good exercise in highlighting what needs to be added, and what can safely be trimmed. –

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Yet, I thought three of your sentences in the article were quite long. It doesn't bother me, but some readers might find them difficult to digest. Also, while your uses of commas were technically correct, a few of the sentences would have benefitted from a strategically placed em dash or a spaced en dash—whichever you prefer. It's a useful tool in sentences that are replete with commas already. Just a few ideas from someone who's writing skills are likely inferior to yours anyway. Best regards. --

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debilitating disability, or was seriously mentally ill, in a society only separated by a few years from mass witch-burnings. There's a minor rant to that effect on the FAC page (and it's why I'd oppose it being April 1 TFA). That arch (but sourced) one-liner at the end is very intentional; I didn't want it to turn into the dull-but-earnest article on a medical condition, or the uplifting "all God's children are equally loved" homily, which are the only two ways it could have been played straight.

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difference at all between an employee of a company writing about that company (grounds for an instant block) and a fan of a band writing about that band (warmly welcomed). My issue is that I (and Rootology, and David) agreed to abide by "the community" on this matter when it was obvious we were outvoted—but now the WMF and Arbcom are turning a blind eye to the ignoring of the hardline policy they themselves fought tooth-and-nail to impose and enforced ruthlessly. Take a look at what happened to

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stuff, that is kind of a hangover from the article before I started editing it and looking at it again, it's pretty much a non-story in that he denied it all anyway. It's the kind of thing that belongs more in an article about MJ's eccentricities. I will be putting more work into this so appreciate any further suggestions, although won't be on much the rest of this week. I'm also hoping to get my hands on some more sources soon. By the way, do you think I should write

4308:). It's fundamental to the way Knowledge operates and has an overwhelming consensus in favour. (Those who argue against it are generally admins disgruntled at finding out that their all that hoop-jumping to get through RFA hasn't led people to respect them any more and wanting some souped-up status to force people to pay attention to them, and people fed up with reverting crap from articles they've written who want some kind of power to get rid of troublemakers.) – 772:

I'm finished. I'd like to also add in Edgar Speyer and Albert Stanley, but then I'd need to bring Charles Yerkes up to at least GA, and most of his life history is in the US and not directly relevant to the UERL. I'm excluding the Great Northern & City and the Waterloo & City as they were under the control of others until after the creation of the LPTB. Will you be including the GN&CR as part of your MR articles set as it was in MR ownership from 1913?--

352: 11815: 5356: 11496: 5009: 14354:—is this your first visit to ANI? I promise you, it doesn't get any saner than that. Despite what some people think, most Knowledge admins are perfectly normal people, but there's a noisy gaggle of around 10% of them who seem to think spending their entire waking lives reverting each other and arguing about things that not only don't concern them, but will never concern anyone, will somehow compensate for the fact that they never get invited to parties. – 11892: 5433: 16146:(outdent) For UK photographs, the UK copyright is for anonymous works 70 years after creation or 70 years after the work was made available to the public if within 70 years of creation. For known authorship, it expires 70 years after the death of the author. The photograph's US copyright, however, largely depends on its publication date, so it is safer to say that if it was published from 1923 to 2003, it will be copyrighted for quite some time (see 12927: 11331: 9519: 7413: 3736: 3437: 1055: 988: 2068:"keeping the Union" to appease the unionist element in the Party, while establishing an England with enough of a Tory majority to get all their schemes enacted. Split England into autonomous regions, and the South would be effectively a one-party state. Spain is well on the road to doing the same with Catalonia and the Basque Country, and there's Canada, Belgium, Russia headed down the same route, so it's not like there aren't precedents. – 12043: 5584: 12446: 5982: 13508:; I think it encourages people to submit really dull and/or poor-quality material at DYK just to get the numbers up, which in turn feeds Knowledge's reputation for amateurishness and inaccuracy. (We deliberately put articles on obscure topics and rush-job articles which have had every corner cut to meet the five-day expansion rule—and then we complain when people say Knowledge is full of dull articles and sloppily written material…) – 8356:

parent article will be, on the assumption that most people who get as far as these obscure subpages are going to be the hardcore nerd-types who already know the basics. I'm trying to avoid calling in favours at the moment, as you, DavidCane, Moni and Redrose are all going to be pestered to look over the parent article once it's written. (Even with as much as possible split off to subpages, it's still going to be a bloated monstrosity.)

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since this is a class project, once the article passes, the chance for any further improvements will go down (unlike in regular articles, where editors are more likely to keep tinkering with the article after the review is over). Oh, and yes, thanks for all the extra levels of explanations, it is much appreciated. PS. There are also a few subject issues I want them to expand upon (see my review above yours). PPS. Off topic quibble:

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typical Edinburgh speech is probably closer to standard-written-English than anywhere else in the world, while an outside observer probably wouldn't guess that a Glaswegian and a Shetlander came from the same continent, let alone the same country. We don't have separate projects for places like Mississippi or Singapore, where the dialect is far further down the line towards "mutually unintelligible language".

10953: 12339: 5880: 13099: 13064: 13029: 12994: 13858: 4306:"There must be no cabal, there must be no elites, there must be no hierarchy or structure which gets in the way of this openness to newcomers rather than trust humans to correctly identify "regulars", we must use a simple, transparent, and open algorithm, so that people are automatically given full privileges once they have been around the community for a very short period of time." 15296:(re Aiken) It was a point-proving exercise; I've always said admins should be desysopped whether they like it or not for three months out of every year so they don't lose touch with what it's like to be ordinary. I didn't have any particular intention to come back (and am unlikely to do anything more interesting than delete the occasional sandbox); this request came from the thread 2391:, which includes the house mouse and a variety of Old World species. That is what Britannica does, and what our current article tries to do (according to the taxobox, at least), but I think that won't work, because we will always get people adding in things about whatever mouse occurs where they live (in the current article, for example, the piece about hantaviruses refers to 8916:(or the summary at the top), you'll see that an unlikely coalition of myself, Rootology and David Shankbone were the ones pushing for it to be allowed, while Jimbo and co were pushing for a "no exceptions" hardline. I recognize that we were massively outnumbered, though; what galls me here is the "paid editing is OK in this case, because it's not someone Jimbo Wales/ 8418:(IMO a much better quality article, and one that will probably be thrown in at FAC to break up the "derelict stations" monotony) was suffering from a condition which had been well documented in at each one other case. (While nobody ever seems to have diagnosed either Tarrare or Domery, I'd quite confidently guess some kind of cretinism-related thyroid disorder.) – 9158:

review each others' articles—that's not part of a conspiracy, but just because David, myself and BulleidPacific are the only ones with a knowledge of both 19th-century civil engineering and the FA criteria and thus the ones most likely to spot gaps. I wouldn't want the BM participants unfairly penalised just because they're the only ones with a shared interest.

9694:. As Malleus will probably pop up in a moment to say more eloquently than I could, if you still want to be treated as a newcomer, don't try to stomp around the place bossing people around. (Lest we forget, it's less than a week since you were telling the FAC delegates how they should be closing FACs, and you're now telling Arbcom how to run elections.) – 3566:@Iridescent, thanks for planning to take a look at the article. I've left a message at Realist's talk page but they have not been frequently using Knowledge so I most likely will not get any feedback from them because "Speechless" has been a FA nominee for two weeks so the candidacy will probably end before Realist has a look at the article : (. 13892:

their overall income appears low by modern standards, virtually all their income would have been disposable, and thus "as a proportion of income" makes things appear far more expensive in relative terms. The same thing can be seen today in those professions where employees are provided with food and board; the pay of a soldier, for instance (

6884:; it means "likelihood that the majority of readers will understand it". In the lead section of any article, links should be kept to an absolute minimum and only be to those where there's a good chance the reader will need an explanation. "Traveler" is an Americanism and not correct in any English-speaking country other than the US itself. – 9082:(FWIW, in my experience collaborations on articles involving more than two or three editors are virtually impossible once you get to FA level. You'd be better off going down the "you be the lead author on X, you be the lead author on Y, you be the lead author on Z" route, with input and criticism from museum staff as needed, rather than the 10865:"Herostratus, has anyone ever actually accused you of being a pedophile or are you just milking "Knowledge Review was rude to me!"? What WR actually said was "notorious pedophilia editor Herostratus", a very different kettle of fish. (I've just written two articles about French cannibals, it doesn't mean I am one.) If you're going to have 2694:

even a single Anglo-Saxon expletive I didn't hear, sometimes addressed to me, sometimes not. Nobody cared much, just the way it was. Swearing at customers if you're serving burgers, or working in a call centre is clearly beyond the pale, but telling your fellow workers that they're acting like fuckwits if they actually are is productive.

8920:/the admin corps/Arbcom (delete as appropriate) dislikes who's doing this particular paid editing" attitude. What damages Knowledge isn't its weird policies, as long as they're applied consistently; it's the "one law for us, one law for you" mentality of those in charge. You of all people should understand what I'm trying to say here. – 8991:. You may note that I've stated from the beginning that my project here at the BM and all activities within it are deliberately avoiding the articles about the institution itself and articles that are politically contentious (e.g. Elgin) so as to avoid CoI and POV pushing. (see the original announcement, section entitled "out of scope" 1904:. I can see more of a case for Cornish Knowledge than Scots; Cornish is a language, albeit a dead one, and a site like that potentially serves as a teaching tool—I just can't see why the WMF should be funding it when there are more pressing things on the big projects that need financing. Regardless of whether Scots and Middle English 13191:(ec) Someone (Malleus?) did suggest that at some point. I generally bypass GAN if I think something's FA quality; this recent burst was because I'm trying to create a featured topic and everything needs to be either GA or FA, so I've been putting them through GAN as well to make sure they all have a coloured dot of some kind. – 9798:"Just go through the article with a fine tooth comb. First look at all the commas and semicolons. Then look for all the non-breaking spaces. Finally read each sentence and see if it is awkward. Would a teenager not interested in engines understand it. After that, you're done! The article should be considered as pass after that." 8855:

that will backfire spectacularly once Seth Finkelstein and co notice it. Building positive relationships with a body is one thing; actively promoting it is another; offering rewards for actively promoting it is completely beyond the pale as far as I'm concerned and I think the blind eyes being collectively turned on grounds of "

17073:, so it's unlikely there will by many incoming links. I don't see the point in this plethora of redirects unless there's some evidence that reasonable people might reasonably type alternative spellings or names into the search box, which in this case there isn't. Nevertheless it's no big deal, so keep it if it makes you happy. 10713:"Merrick was now homeless on the streets of Leicester … Merrick still had some of the haberdashery wares in his possession and continued to hawk around Leicester for the next two years." – what actually happened here? How did someone homeless manage to carry enough haberdashery around with him to support himself for two years? 10046:

ago; annoying people by wading feet-flying into discussions without understanding what's being discussed, without enough of a history of good work on the project (either in mainspace or in assessment) to make people take them seriously. You made a complete turnaround and there's no reason Suomi shouldn't be able to either.

4616:? I remember being very unhappy with the way this turned out when I wrote it last year, but looking at it now she actually looks quite promising in my "odd characters of the 19th century" occasional series. (If that's "start class", I'm not sure what that particular reviewer would consider B-class, let alone FA-level.) – 16018:: these three share the same problem: were they "published" before 1923? Publishing means the distribution of copies (by printing in magazines and books, or selling copies of the photographs to train lovers, etc), so if these photographs have been developed and later kept by a hobbyist, they would not qualify for the 8223:

find that in educational assignments, the line between main content writing and addressing comments is often much more blurred - but the success rate is decent enough (~50%, based on my past assignments). Hopefully our comments will help the students understand the subject (and Knowledge). Thanks for your input! --

16175:. No publication dates, the owners of the collections are playing smart; by offering the photos for sale on the internet, it could be considered first publication (if no earlier date is proven). If you want to try to claim fair use at showing the engine, I would suggest at least using these (they are clearer). 9945:. As Essjay always used to say, before you hit "save" think about whether what you're about to post improves the end product of Knowledge. If you wouldn't be able to explain to someone why you think any given edit of yours will improve Knowledge for our readers, it's almost certainly not an edit worth making. – 8305:

ultimately came from there. I considered adding it to a "further reading" section, but decided against it; to the best of my knowledge there are no copies available in Canadian libraries and the only copies in the UK are those in the copyright libraries and the National Maritime Museum. Both the NMM and the

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but don't sent representatives to Congress. AFAIK, since the collapse of Austria-Hungary there are no surviving unions of a similar nature to England/Scotland; France/Andorra, China/Hong Kong/Macau, Netherlands/Aruba/Dutch Antilles etc have far more independence from each other, while the French overseas

15593:? My personal feeling is that the Brill branch "Wotton" is enough of a primary usage to warrant first dibs on the name (I'll guess 95% of people searching for "Wotton station" are looking for this one rather than the GCR), but I can see the arguments for splitting them both off and having a dab page. – 13978:, and carried on towards Ely. I accept the 1903 map could be wrong, in the light of other, more contemporary, evidence. However, in addition, there is archaeological proof of the Romans in Little Thetford, and indeed a Roman villa at Stretham. How should I have worded the article? What is your view? -- 16412:

I feel a certain respect for Tarrare. Although it doesn't come through all that well—the sources, for obvious reasons, focus more on the gross-out qualities, and you can only bake the loaf with the flour you have—I've done my best to show the decent qualities in what was a man who either coped with a

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might know someone who does.) In the interim I removed the link just because otherwise, people might click on the existing link and get confused—unless someone's very aware of English geography, they won't necessarily know that Buckinghamshire isn't adjacent to Cambridgeshire. Malleus might pop up at

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Done. The article was quite good. I wasn't sure about two issues on which I commented. Once you've addressed them or noted why they are not issues (they may not be), I'll be happy to change to support. I thought I might mention something here instead of the FAC page though. Your writing is excellent.

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I'm neither; while obviously there are things that can be explained and I'm more than happy to reply to anyone asking my opinion on a given issue, I don't believe Knowledge editing is something that can really be taught, other than technical details such as wikitext formatting. If you want people who

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are a thank you prize/incentive/reward for anyone who writes good quality content on a subject area that's relevant to the mission of the (public) institution. This is quite different to commissioning a specific person to either a) write the article about the institution itself or b) only "paying up"

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Incidentally, if I could use the facility of the "Editors' Noticeboard" here: if anyone feels like taking a look at my latest creations, I'd be grateful. There are 73 listed churches on Anglesey, and I've set myself a challenge to write about them all and get some, if not the majority, to GA status.

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about the similarity of Halkett's designs to the current Sevylor kayaks. As I understand it, the similarity is a case of convergent evolution rather than descent; Sevylor's designs trace back to the flotation rafts carried by aircrew during the Second World War (which had similar limitations to those

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Hmmm. After having spent quite a bit of time on this, I think it can probably only be saved by someone who either already has a couple of the relevant books or is prepared to buy them, and that person isn't me. I've separated out the comic from the comic strip, which I think was the article's biggest

4225:

Thank for your your insights. Consultants can be useful in many situations. For example, famous people paid for prison consultants when they are about to go to prison. The consultant teaches them about prison culture that the ordinary person wouldn't generallly know. Your Knowledge advice is also

4190:

As Malleus (almost) says, I think you're misunderstanding the concept of "equality". It means, both on Knowledge and in the wider world, not that everyone should be treated the same but that everyone is entitled to the same basic courtesies. (There are no "rights" on Knowledge other than the right to

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has been inactive since 2008, and in any case was a surviving fragment of Esperanza with all the scrutiny that entailed. Regarding the other two, can you honestly not see the difference between, on the one hand, a program for experienced users to mentor newcomers and a coordination page for people to

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Thousands of articles? Really? Correcting the amount of Pink Floyd studio albums will affect thousands of articles? Such drama! Obscured By Clouds, More, and The Wall are all studio albums by Pink Floyd that are also movie soundtracks. Zabriske Point, Tonight Let's Make Love In London, and others are

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Thanks! It's niggling me as I know there are a few really obvious questions which I'd certainly ask if I saw it at FAC—"How many were built?", "How much did they cost?", "How did they influence later boat designs?" and so on—for which I just can't find the answers. I know that not many were built, as

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Computers were never scary, but sadly they've now become boring. I do agree with you about this "swearing in the workplace is unacceptable" nonsense though, which seems to fuel the children of the civility police. I spent several years working with the British Army, and in that time I doubt there was

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Vermont, California and Nebraska don't have their own laws, postal systems, currency etc with all those laws created by a single government in Washington who meet on separate days to debate Vermont laws, Californian laws, and so on; likewise, Guam and Puerto Rico are under direct rule from Washington

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and a system unique among the German states (unicameral legislature, direct citizen government by referendum) it's at least as "different but equal" as Scotland. Gibraltar is officially a part of South West England for electoral purposes, although it doesn't send MPs to Westminster, only Brussels; it

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as heard in Inversneck is certainly simply a dialect. The aborigines were speaking Gaelic until relatively recently and it never had time to evolve into anything more distinct, unlike Doric. I don't know that we are particularly disagreeing here, save perhaps that I tend to celebrate the diversity to

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Maybe. I forgot how funny the scots one was. I have no idea how many folks actually look at it. The universality of WP in a gazillion languages scores great kudos points, and having spent time where folks speaking minority languages are pretty proud to use them, I sorta don't mind the wee ones. Damn,

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Regarding the MR, I'm intentionally working inwards from Buckinghamshire; I suspect that by the end I'll be sick of the sight of them. I probably won't touch the GN&CR or the Stanmore branch—and may leave out the Circles and the H&C and stop at Baker Street (mainly because I dread the idea of

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In terms of "ranking" in Knowledge's undeclared power structure, community respect counts for far more than what buttons a user has; there are many non-admins with more influence than most Arbcom members, let alone most "vanilla" admins. (You can generally find a representative sample of them on this

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I'd say slightly more; more like 20–25 words per line at full width (and this is on a laptop, not any kind of enormous monitor). As a reference point above, with the window zoomed fully out, the first line of your post above breaks between "31" and "July"; the first line break in the current version

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But if there are no such redlinks - save for this talk page - there's a difference between creating redirects which are not needed, and leaving alone those that already exist: the former won't have incoming links from the rest of the internet, whereas the latter may well do so, and when followed, we

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Reading the transportarchive article pointed above, it is likely the photos "published" during Newton's life were of the railroad workers, and those of the line could be unpublished. I am not sure if Newton's "take them or they are gone" gift of the photos to Daniel constitutes publishing (hard to

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originally, but I can't prove it; the earliest publication I can verify for both is 1974. As no verifiable PD photographs of the line in operation exist (if these don't count) they'll almost certainly qualify for fair-use; would it make more sense to go down that route? (They're both verifiably from

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I do understand the point that you and NYB are making, I'm not a fool. All I can promise to do though is to try and remember your advice the next time the civility police come knocking; I can't promise any more than that. If someone comes waving their administrator's willy on my talk page, then they

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good at is reading the undercurrents of popular opinion. The point he and I are both trying to make is that you not understanding why people get offended (or understanding but not changing) can be seen by some not as integrity, but as the same kind of "I'm so important everyone else has to change to

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That "20 million" figure is slightly misleading. Remember, most articles and userpages also have a corresponding talk page, which in the case of articles is often very short and just consists of a couple of templates. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of pages were the talkpages of IP accounts,

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I understand where you're coming from regarding affordability, but I think CPI is the correct index to use to show it. Presumably most of the passengers using the line would have been farm labourers and servants; they would have had their lodgings and food provided by their employers. Thus, although

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I wouldn't worry too much about it being closed prematurely; as it has a support and no opposes, Sandy and Karanacs are very unlikely to close it unless opposition comes along. (Fasach Nua's oppose will be ignored by whoever closes it, as the issue's been resolved.) You may be better off asking some

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Thanks for the initial thoughts. I didn't realise "freak show" was an Americanism, so will be happy to change that. I want to convey in the lead that he was both a medical curiosity and a professional freak (although in whatever terms would be appropriate). I actually agree about the Michael Jackson

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what terms would and wouldn't be considered appropriate; if a lot of people are going to find "freak" offensive, it probably shouldn't be used unless there's a particular reason to. Remember that people with facial deformities read Knowledge too (and are probably going to be more likely than average

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Personally, I'd say "freak" is derogatory. The traditional British-English terms—going right back to Francis Bacon, who founded teratology as a science (before that, such babies tended to be killed as evidence of witchcraft)—are "monster" or "prodigy", but those have both taken on new meanings since

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which is skewing your figures wildly; you also used to use Huggle which distorts the editing stats. (Because every revert is automatically accompanied by a warning, a huggle rollback counts as two edits—one to the article and one to the user talk page.) You also have the legacy of your old days; not

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I think you're missing my point about pay, rewards and prizes. If I were setting Knowledge's rules I'd have no problems with editing for any reason, and would be perfectly happy for Coca-Cola to employ a Knowledge Officer full-time to write articles about Coke provided they adhered to NPOV; I see no

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Laws are actually harder to write on than you'd think, as the legacies and background generally need explaining. The great advantage of stations, ports, airports and roads are that one can write as little or as much as one wants and the article doesn't seem incomplete. Churches and Ancient Monuments

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Please don't misunderstand. I did not want to create a new structure with meetings and findings. What I wanted to create was a group of mentor/mentees/both. Not sure, and just go down the list and ask someone. Right now, when I have a perplexing question, I go to a wise administrator in India to

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I'll take your word for it—that was just what came up when I was looking for "Flemish". The only Dutch words I know are "kaas", "apartheid" and "laager". As you say, it doesn't affect the point, that "World War 2" is a phrase used only in the US while the languages of all countries actually involved

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you doubt that your opinions matter more than other people's?) The latter group (especially the military/police and retired-academic types) have generally been part of a culture in which collaboration and respect for others are facts of life, not pithy slogans, and understanding when and when not to

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with powers over health, transport, and the vaguely defined "home affairs". The status of Scotland and Wales within the UK is far short of the autonomy of a Canadian province, let alone a US state; the example of Canada was chosen deliberately (no Tory government would ever give them the autonomy of

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If it's offered, Alex can hardly turn it down, given that he's been presenting himself as the face of independence for twenty years. Give Scotland and Wales the same kind of status Quebec and Newfoundland have within Canada, as autonomous states within the British Federation, and it preserves enough

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Knowledge's internal structure was created with a project with 1,000 active members and 100,000 pages in mind, and is manifestly unsuitable for a project with 10,000 active members and 20,227,426 pages, but the problems are due to the inconsistency in application of mutually contradictory policies,

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I respectfully disagree. Some admins certainly act like petty tyrants, but they generally get flushed out and marginalised quite quickly—one thing I do agree with Brad on is that, while Knowledge doesn't have an effective desysopping mechanism, "the community" does act as quite an effective brake on

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this one particular figure remains recognisable 400 years on. How many people would recognise an ultra-stylised depiction of George Fox, Robert Catesby, William Cecil, John Milton, Oliver Cromwell, or any other significant (generally far more significant) figure of the 17th century with the possible

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No problem; the history of the Labour Party is tangled, as it was (and is) a coalition of assorted groups constantly disaffiliating from and reaffiliating to the main party, so it's hard to track who was involved with what at any given time. Given Sam Blacketer's shenanigans—and the proximity to the

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about it. Although I currently live here I'm not a native and my knowledge of what is and isn't common terminology isn't that accurate, especially out of my "19th century attempts to use emerging technology as a social engineering tool" comfort zone. My personal feeling is to go with what it's most

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a reason the Civility Police watch you. Remember that rant of mine a few months ago about why the civility policy doesn't work because of cultural differences? It cuts both ways; yes, west-coast Americans are generally hypersensitive about things which wouldn't even register on the radar in Bolton,

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The real problem now is that, because DYK and ITN have become a waystation on the road to gaming an RFA, there are too many vested interests who'll prevent the mainpage being redesigned into something more interesting. This is one area where Jimbo exercising his prerogative powers would actually be

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FT. It's mindnumbingly dull, but I'd challenge anyone to combine "brilliant refreshing prose" and "average annual milk transport by volume", and I think it's as interesting as an article on such an inherently dull topic will get. After that it's a toss-up between Domery and Lambert; hopefully after

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You're absolutely right. I shouldn't have forgotten about our readers, and since I'm well aware of these kinds of issues from my real life work, I should be more aware of them on Knowledge! Losing sight of the real goal... I've edited some of the language in the article to avoid the use of the word

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Oh yes, I forgot about huggle and DYK as well as my 300+ edits to ANI (many from Sept. to Jan. since I've now tried to avoid that place like the plauge) That would also explain Fetchcomms' edit chart. Perhaps Suomi just needs someone to tell them what we are here for and help him find a good topic

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where I mention that an oppose voters states on their user page that they are away and ask what we should do. I ask whether or not that is a pass. Hardly bossing others around. In contrast, I hereby order the 29th Command Regiment of the Royal Artillery to bomb the hut 52km NNE of Kandahar in 10

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WP coverage of the visual arts is not quite as bad as one might think if one only looks at the contributions on art of the "engine" editors you rather hilariously listed above (excepting Bishonen & Giano, who for various reasons write little article text these days). I'm not meaning to be rude,

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Just noting that there is no need to hurry with regards to signing off on the article. The students have over a week to address your comments, and I think they can use all that time, particularly as in educational assignment there is a known tendency to do the work just ahead of the deadline. Also,

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Hahaha, I do understand the reluctance. The only reason that I was ever very active on WP was that I had Ottava to work with and was able to divide the grunt work on the poetry articles in half. Whereas I am perfectly content in leaving these pages half-finished until his ban is up, he thinks it is

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across was legitimate, as even with potential errors it was still clearly an improvement on what went before; amending an existing article is a different kettle of fish. Poetry coverage on Knowledge is suffering from the fact that Ottava and Poetlister were the most active editors on the topic, but

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definitions so if a line's going to be drawn, it's clear where to draw it—likewise with other "different meanings in different places" animals like robins or badgers. If you really want to find yourself losing the will to live, discussions over naming where there's no clear convention are the place

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Different meaning in Scotland; in England it has general meanings of "smoothing the ground in preparation" and "verification"; in Scotland it refers specifically to the mass-evictions of the 18th and 19th centuries. One of those words like "evolution" that has lost its original meaning when used in

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The milkybars are on me. I am neither for nor agin a Scots Knowledge, but I am not sure you can draw these hard-and-fast distinctions about language and dialect with any confidence. Language constantly evolves and the difference between Scottish English and Scots is simply one of degree. The former

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I've no doubt it qualifies as a living dialect, but so are plenty of others, and think on how stupid Geordie Knowledge or Cockney Knowledge would look. Sure, Scots used to be a "true" language, and 16th-century Scots had the same relationship to 16th-century English that modern Danish has to modern

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Thanks. Interested to see you're going for featured topics with these. I'm not too far from completing the components for an "Underground Electric Railways of London" Featured topic. All the UERL's tube lines are done. Just need to work up the Metropolitan District Railway and the UERL articles and

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know the topic. It's the reason I try always to put a "…for dummies" background section in at the start, so people who aren't familiar with the topic can pick up enough to understand what's being discussed in the body, while people who are familiar with the field can skip over it to the meat of the

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Well done on getting her to DYK, btw; as "regulars" on this talkpage know, the "social planning and new technology can improve the world" idealism of the age of electrification is one of my pet themes, and while I focus on the "mass transit means housing no longer needs to be near the workplace and

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A useful trick with the DNB is to do full-text searches on the subject's name; that quite often brings up other people who worked closely with the subject but aren't mentioned in their own article, and allows you to fill out background; part of the DNB's problem is that their house style is a close

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Yeah you're right, we do have to be particularly careful. I feel a bit silly that relevance to the election hadn't even crossed my mind. I'll have to look into the history more, for my own education and with a view to improving the article. I have used the DNB article for this one, actually. It's a

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Thanks! I've incorporated most of them; the two I haven't (and why) are: (a) I've kept both "through route" and "shortest route"; the two aren't synonymous (a route can be the shortest, but not the quickest if it involves a lot of changing), and (b) even though it involves repetition of That Name,

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Look, I recognise that I'm being ticked off by the headmaster, but I've never laid claim to being important here on wikipedia. On the contrary, I recognise that it'll do just fine without me. Or you. Or Newyorkbrad. In the meantime, I'll continue to do what I can, or whatever takes my fancy, but I

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to be corrupt, and that's not about to change until the system does. And to label me as "consistently uncollaborative" is a joke beyond mere words. Besides, I've come to accept it as inevitable that those who either can't or won't look beyond the ends of their noses to see what's really wrong with

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Interesting. I don't plan to say anything else there though, no matter what happens next. To be honest, I feel a little sorry for Rodhullandemu, and I think a line should be drawn under this incident asap, to allow him to get on in peace with whatever it is that he intends to do. At least until he

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Thanks for the compliment, although I don't consider myself a particularly good prose stylist (which is why most of mine tend to be sanitised by Malleus before they reach the general public). I use dashes as sparingly as possible; they overemphasise whatever's placed between them, and thus I don't

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I'd also take the Michael Jackson stuff out of the lead—there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that it's true, and it seems to be giving undue weight to a silly-season tabloid story to devote more space to the Jackson story than to David Lynch's film (which at the moment is the case in both the

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blunt instrument—because some people tend to do major rewrites in sandboxes and paste it into mainspace before deleting the sandbox, it can make the prolific writers look less active than they are—so don't necessarily put too much store by it. Suomi is in pretty much the same place you were a year

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The difference between article edits and talk edits isn't the issue; what I'd say is symptomatic of a problem (note: just my personal opinion) is that your mainspace edits are only around 30%, which is the kind of level I'd expect to see from a long-term Arbcom member who's forced to spend most of

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While I wish the project all the best in its aims, you know my concerns. I do understand that you're acting in the best of faith (although I'm not sure I'd say the same of some of your supporters) and that this may well produce a short term improvement, but you know why I think it's a bad decision

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PS. You probably also remember how much of a fight it took to get rid of the word "theory" from that one… Substitute pretty much any other theory if you prefer if you think it will confuse them less; I tend to use ID as an example of a good "disputed topic" article, as it does a pretty good job of

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I've no idea about the italics thing (I think it might be an infobox parameter) but looks like you've managed to sort it. I doubt I'll be much help; I don't know much about the comic (or comics in general) and don't know any of our guidelines or policies regarding comics and wouldn't know where to

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is enforced so zealously, and why a suggestion to revive Esperanza (which is what a club of people "trying to help each other with editing suggestions, encouragement, and friendship" amounts to) is going to be greeted with what looks like an unnatural level of hostility if you're not familiar with

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split into factions; to me, one of those key splits—albeit not immediately obvious—is between the "eager nerd" types on the one hand, and the "military/cops/parents of young kids/shift workers/retirees" group on the other. (While I'm not sure the research has been done, I'm confident that would be

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I was quite surprised (but relieved) the article was promoted yesterday. Thank you for the review offer, Iridescent. I may take you up on that in the future. I agree that reviewing articles on subject where the reviewer knows nothing about the subject can be tricky; it's often useful, though, as a

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Scotland (and Flanders, Chechnya, Bavaria, Greenland, Gibraltar, Heligoland…) don't really have North American equivalents; all the separate institutions and legal structures of an independent country in place, but administered as part of a larger country to whose government they send members. The

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I think all three of us are saying the same thing in different ways. The odd status in which the Union welded together two different systems with independent currencies, laws and educational systems, but controlled by a single central government, means partition would be more like decolonisation—a

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Oh my. Your understanding of Canadian politics is...well, amusing. Canadians accept that our internal disputes aren't particularly well understood outside our own borders (or inside them, for that matter!). Neither Quebec nor Newfoundland and Labrador (the full name of the province) are autonomous

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If I were the WMF, I'd seriously consider killing about 75% of the foreign-language Wikipedias, or at least withdrawing financial and hardware support. Most of the dead-language and constructed-language ones are pointless intellectual-exercise time sinks, and I'm sure that in almost all cases, the

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Oh, I know it's named after the man not a place and the village is "Verney Junction", not "Verney" alone; I wouldn't use it in article-space. In conversation I'd hope it's clear from context, in the same sense as people will "change trains at Clapham" even though Clapham Junction isn't actually in

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There's probably a lesson in the fact that English mythical figures are all ultra-reactionary martyrs who bitterly fought progress and social change (from Arthur to Churchill by way of Whittington and Fawkes), while Scottish mythical figures are generally xenophobic anti-English rabble-rousers and

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Replied there. Although the "fact" that Stamford Bridge was built with the Metropolitan Railway excavation spoil is sourceable, I don't believe it; the dates are out by 40 years, and Chelsea is nowhere nearby and wasn't connected by rail so they'd have needed a fleet of barges and carts. My money

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However, do note that reviewers might be justified if they still think it a weak rationale ("I think readers can perfectly visualise buildings themselves", "what aspects shown in this picture is crucial to the article and cannot be adequately expressed with words", etc). The strongest opposition

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I'll come out and say what others are hinting at but not quite saying (I assume he's watching this page, given his post above); I think he needs a proper break away from Knowledge for an absolute minimum of a couple of weeks. He's acting like someone who genuinely thinks the place will fall apart

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Personally (this is purely a matter of taste) I'd get rid of the photo of Fawsley Hall. It's a deeply uninteresting picture (I'm sure the readers know what a field of grass looks like) and only marginally relevant to the topic. If you're going to include a picture of a building, go with the Royal

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It's disappointing that Knowledge feels the need to talk down to its readers. The concept of a gaol keeper isn't hard to understand, and if a reader hasn't come across the term before I doubt it's beyond them to spend a few seconds finding out. Besides, I think gaol keeper works well; someone not

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A bit of a tricky one—this isn't like Wikicup, where the log-rolling's generally obvious. If (for instance) everyone with an interest in Ancient Egypt signs up to the BM project, they won't be "independent" but they're still the people best qualified to check for errors. DavidCane and I generally

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Overall, I'd suggest you post your updated review to help guide them, and they still have a week (till next Sunday, more or less) to finish addressing our comments. In theory, they should have stopped developing the article last week, and spend this week on addressing the comments. In practice, I

4562:. All those Brill Tramway articles technically break this policy (I see no point in calling them "tube stations" just because they were owned by LT for two years, when they're not underground and no tube train ever came within 40 miles of any of them), so I wouldn't be too strong in pushing it. – 4043:

I always considered them as section numbers, rather than figure numbers. I suppose given that each section accompanies a figure and vice versa, it doesn't really make a difference (unless someone has a particularly strong objection, I don't propose to go back and change them). It shouldn't really

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parameter). This shows up better in Firefox, where the4 link target becomes highlighted in blue (IE will link, but not highlight). This isn't such a big deal in articles with few sources, but when there are many, particularly when more than one book by the same author has been used, it can help a

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The main reasons I haven't sent it to FAC are (a) it necessarily uses only a few sources, and although Mattisse is no longer with us there will no doubt someone to slip on her mantle when it comes to "you're citing the same source too often", and (b) the Brill Tramway is clogging the queue at the

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Whatever. Still waiting for that "taking it to the talkpage" you seem so in favour of. Given that the people you're arguing with about what will and will not cause errors are (1) the original author of the program, (2) the person who currently maintains the program and (3) the person who spent an

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Looks like Karanacs has beaten me to it… I don't entirely restrict myself to topics I know or that sell themselves flashily—I seem to have done an awful lot of rats lately—but I do generally try to restrict myself to areas I know (mainly civil engineering, music and transport). In general, I find

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Perhaps many people aren't aware that Scotland even prints its own banknotes, something I don't think any Canadian provinces or US states do? Scotland is of course also different from Wales and Ireland, in that Wales and Ireland were militarily defeated by the English, but the Scottish Parliament

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in 1707. It certainly doesn't seem ridiculous that, as Iridescent suggests, if England has voted Tory and Scotland has stayed Labour, we could aspire to go our separate ways and move to full independence. The divisions of the Thatcher era are often cited as the major factor in the SNP moving from

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as an FA appeals), that will qualify it as an FT under the new rules. Then, I only need to get one of Verney, Winslow Road or Granbrough Rd to qualify the Verney branch, since I'll be able to double-count Quainton Road. After that, we're on the mainline where although the articles will be longer,

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good case for saying he's meant to be (or more accurately, to see himself as) the Guy. Not only is the Guy the only character in English folk heritage who traditionally wears a mask, but I'd be shocked if there's been a year in the last century (except possibly during the blackout) when that mask

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Tricky. Normally, I'd say leave "In popular culture" to an absolute minimum in any article, but in this case the film will be the only reason most people will have heard of him. My gut reaction would be only to focus on how the play and film changed popular perception of him and led to a wave of

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is very low (you have more edits to user talk pages than to articles). My advice would be, pick a topic that interests you, write on it, and ignore the policy discussions unless they affect you. Knowledge certainly has problems, but the current setup is the result of ten years of discussions and

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You better watch out. Next week, I will tell the commander of forces in Afghanistan what targets to attack and the following week, I will be issuing orders to the UN Secretary General. In general, I try to be kind to everyone and hope others will do the same. Nastiness can be cultural as some

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Iridescent, your right in a way, but wrong in another. What we hope for here is access to sources, not cash. O and there are 600 years of reasons why I dont go near Brit art...even though Turner is probably my favourite painter, London my favoutire city and I like The Fall more than most doctors

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Feel free to chop it up; as you know this is the fifth of these and I'm starting to glaze over—it's hard to remember what has and hasn't already been explained in whichever particular article I'm working on. Per my earlier reply, these are intentionally written at a more technical level than the

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Done, for the moment. Although I've not immediately passed it, all the points I've raised are minor and easily addressed. Given the class-project nature, I've gone into more detail than I usually would, as I assume they're not familiar with Wiki-minutiae; hopefully, I've not scared them off with

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I'm not sure of what to make of Piano non troppos' implicit suggestion that people who've written an article are not allowed to nominate it for FAC. Is it naivety or unfamiliarity with how Knowledge works? It would be nice for someone to stumble across an article, think "this is fantastic!", and

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problem before, and I'll tidy up whatever else I can, but I think it needs someone else to step up to the plate if it's going to remain an FA. I wouldn't vote for its delisting—at least not when I've done what I can tidying it up—but I wouldn't argue for it to be kept either. Besides, I can hear

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Railway stations are exempt from deletion and merging; they're always considered notable, on the grounds that even the most obscure strip of concrete in the countryside will have been the subject of the fabled multiple independent non-trivial sources ("New station opens" and "Old station closes"

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Excluding redirects, I've only created a very few articles—it just seems like more. I certainly don't qualify for Autoreviewer status, although someone gave it to me at one point and I can't see any reason to remove it. (It doesn't give any special status—it just means less work for the New Page

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The contents page of Mitchell & Smith has five entries, one for each line covered, which I consider to be five sections; each is further split into stations (subsections? chapters?), each of which is listed in the alphabetical index. However, neither of us is strictly correct: Mitchell &

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Likewise, commented there. Without wanting to prejudge Karanacs (Sandy seems to have gone walkabout), I suspect it'll be promoted on the next pass unless someone comes up with a new problem. I do think SoniaSyle's criticisms are valid, but I think they've been adequately addressed, so don't lose

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Don't let the spelling issues faze you too much; if an article gets as far as FAC and the only issues are spelling, people will generally just fix it there and then. As previously mentioned, I do think you ought to seriously consider getting rid of the occurrences of "World War I" and "World War

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Posted a note, we'll see what happens. At least while I was in England I got all the old bishops tombs from Winchester, Chichester, Salisbury, Canterbury, Lincoln, and Ely. I couldn't get York because that section of the cathedral was closed off, dang it! And Durham doesn't allow photos at all.

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the place. (An author known for writing about the town, the architect who designed the local buildings, someone famous enough that people make journeys to see their house…) They have too much of a tendency to become laundry-lists (and magnets for locals to list anyone they've ever heard of)—see

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Actually, I've been pleasantly surprised at how low the stupidity count has been lately; most of the arguments I've seen recently have had valid points on both sides and been resolved by reasonable discussion. I don't know if it's due to it being summer vacation in the US (or just the World Cup

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Already posted on your talkpage; I've undone this as patent nonsense. A gaol keeper is not a prison warder any more than a brothel-keeper is a prostitute, and while I've no idea what a "corrections officer" is I'm certain they've never had them in England and certainly not in eighteenth-century

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give is to reiterate what I've said above; stay clear of policy pages unless you understand what you're discussing. While anyone is welcome to comment anywhere, if you keep throwing yourself into discussions on topics you don't understand it will likely end unhappily. Everyone on Knowledge is a

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Thanks for that; I haven't been as active as I ought to be at GAN lately, but I know I can be harsh. I do try to be scrupulous about reviewing GAs purely for compliance to the GA criteria, even when I'd flame them to cinders if they surfaced at FAC. This one's a class project and Piotrus is the

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Yes-and-no. Nobody (except maybe that nice Mr Cameron and his little friend Mr Clegg) is saying that everyone should speak the Queen's English all the time, but what makes Scotland a special case? Besides, the idea that one passes Berwick and the language immediately changes is dubious at best;

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is available as a live feed to anyone who wants it (it's what drives Huggle). While most people have no use for Knowledge data in real time, and couldn't handle that volume of information even if they did, Google and Bing consider it worth their while to update their information on Knowledge in

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In Knowledge terms, the text of Halkett's brochure is pretty much unusable; because it's effectively an eight-page sales brochure ("book" is pushing it mightily), under Knowledge's sourcing rules it's a primary source and can't be used as a source in most contexts, although a lot of the images

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template, so sorted now, as you say. I've found one useful source, but even second-hand it would cost over £60; luckily there's a Google preview of the relevant pages though. I haven't yet checked what's available in my local libraries, but I'll get around to that. Right now I'm just trying to

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FWIW, my approach is to take advice from Ottava, as I would from anyone else, not instructions. Whatever we add here we have to stand behind ourselves. Sadly though, I've never really got the point of poetry, so I'd probably be even less use than Iridescent with the Ode. About as much use as a

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stand your ground in a dispute is so drummed into you that it becomes the natural way of things. (I do wonder how the "swearing is never acceptable in a work environment" types would react if they ever saw the inside of any government department, let alone a police station or military base.) –

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As I said in Another Place, while I can see the arguments for leaving V4V out of the main article, I do think there's an important unspoken point in that it shows the extent to which "Guy Fawkes" the folk character has detached himself from the real Fawkes and become a part of the English folk

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Thanks to both of you. The ratio: "...If it's not buried..." and "...Depends what you mean..." caused me to have a mild stroke. I still don't understand. If I magically clicked everything right now, any wild, wild guess on main vs nonmain, archived discussions and all, (not including previous

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Depends what you mean. Current page size is stored in bytes for all pages in the page_len column. It's trivial to sum() that for all pages in NS:0 and compare it to pages in NS:1. Things get a bit trickier if you want to look at non-current versions of pages, though the rev_len column is now

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had tried to pay Moni for getting their article to FA status, I'm sure she'd have told them exactly where to shove the check.) One of the more ironic things here is that, among the names of people who've signed up to the BM project, I see at least one person who also signed their name to the

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Don't they? Gibraltar and Greenland are equivalent to U.S. overseas areas like Puerto Rico and Guam (perhaps with some differences in level of autonomy, but the idea is the same), Heligoland hardly has any special status at all, Bavaria is not really constitutionally different from the other

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Wearing my admin hat, my opinion on redirects has always been "don't create them unnecessarily, but don't delete them without reason". There's not anything saved by deleting them, since their history still sits on the servers, and they do no particular harm unless they're misleading in some

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Go away unless you have something useful to say. There may be a page somewhere on Knowledge where you're less likely to impress someone with the Head Prefect routine than here, but I'm finding it hard to think of one. If you genuinely can't see how you come across as arrogant, it's a pretty

10716:"the Commissioners for Hackney Carriages revoked his license" – what were the CfHC (who presumably regulated taxicabs) doing deciding whether he was suitable to be a door-to-door salesman? If they regulated other licensing as well, it needs to be explained, as that set off a WTF? right away; 10041:

counting your user talk page, your most frequently edited page is your own userpage, and you have 368 (!) edits to ANI. (To put that in perspective, that's more posts to ANI than I've made in my entire time here, including two years as one of Knowledge's most active admins.) Edit count is a

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but would the others think of themselves as art editors? - we are not talking about the "arts" here, as music & literature are obviously way off-topic for the British Museum; history is more to the point. In fact most recent visual art FAs have been highly collaborative, usually led by

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Shoot, Ranger Steve beat me to it. Iridescent, I love this article. Somehow I ran across it in its first days of development and fell in love with the dreamlike drawings (especially that top one). They complement the boat-cloak idea and its wistful story perfectly. Thanks for the smiles! --

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I suppose, in the case of Little Billy F/films it would provide a distinction between a company called "Little Billy Films" and a body of product (films) from Little Billy. In the context of wikilinks, you would probably automatically correct a red link when you found it, but when no other

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If you want a serious answer: in that context, probably yes. The whole point of Arbcom is to air dirty laundry and sort out which accusations are justified; if you think someone's a troll, a POV-pusher, a spammer etc I'd say it's acceptable at Arbcom providing you can back up why you think

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That's not fair on Malleus, and don't believe everything you read in Mattisse's emails. (I think we can safely make assumptions as to who this particular anonymous "someone" is.) Malleus can be rude—sometimes to an extent that I think goes beyond what's acceptable—but I have never (that is

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The problem is that I've looked at the sourced article (I can send you the copy if you want) and IIRC that country wasn't even mentioned in the main body (!). Personally, I have a feeling the reviewers might have ignored the appendix, but there is no way I can prove it, and the publication

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Doubt it; with no opposers I suspect Sandy and Karanacs will let it sit for a while longer. (You can always ask Sandy what she has in mind—she doesn't bite.) At some point I'll go back to FAC reviewing; I've been sidetracked trying to get the Brill series done before the library books run

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is pretty much how I'd envisage DYK if I were running things.) I try only to submit things to DYK if they meet my personal "would someone who doesn't care find it interesting?" criterion. I have very few DYK submissions; I actually create very few articles, most of mine are expansions and

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Are't many of the things you say about Bavaria also true for Quebec? Really, I don't see how the situation is much different in reality from U.S. states, which also have different internal systems of government (Nebraska has a unicameral and nonpartisan legislature; California has lots of

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a valuable contributor there; it's just that the "valued contributor" side is to some extent being hidden behind the "needless drama-mongering" side. While it may not seem it to Suomi, I am genuinely trying to help by nipping the problematic side in the bud rather than flame them off the

4710:), I think he treats words still in standard usage in British English (amongst, whilst, upon) as archaisms. (It cuts both ways; "oftentimes", perfectly correct standard usage in much of the southern US, looks like something out of Shakespeare to the British or northern/western US eye.) – 2521:

to open your preferences; select the "Gadgets" tab; check the "Display an assessment of an article's quality as part of the page header for each article" check box. The titles of pages will be color-coded according to article status, and the current talkpage rating immediately below each

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Not sure if it's as simple as that—what's the case of something where the creator has been dead for 70 years, but it was published posthumously less than 70 years ago (which is potentially the case here), especially when the company which originally created them was nationalised in the

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Yes actually, you're right in a way, and thank you for correcting me. The distinction between grammar and pronunciation is an important one. And, thinking about it, even Welsh's characters, while speaking demotic urban Scots, often use beautifully constructed grammatical sentences. The

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Quite the reverse, I think you're being too soft. I've left a few additional comments at the review, but I think there's quite a bit to do yet. Like you though, I'm aware that I can be a rather demanding reviewer, so take my comments with however much salt you feel is appropriate.

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is well on the way to the "Princess Diana" state in which "in popular culture" and "in reality" lose any real relationship to each other. Darwin and Shakespeare are beginning to slip down that particular slope, too; I wouldn't be surprised to see Brunel and Attlee join them in my

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You know my opinion of DYK; it should be interesting facts from any article, and get rid of the "last five days" rule, which both encourages people to create needless articles, and means that we're far too often highlighting really badly-written rushed articles on the main page.

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The website you used allows you to compare either retail price index or average earnings (those two check boxes to the right of where you type in the amount and year). The retail price index figure gives a little under £7. As for a percentage of average income, I have no idea.

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Um, Iridescent, It was'nt Mattisse who e-mail that to me back in January. I know who it was (though we no longer talk) and I'd rather not tell you who for their sake. I do have to give Malleus credit for motivateing (in a harsh way) me to becomeing the editor that I currently

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volunteer, and gets irritated when people waste their time; there comes a point when Knowledge's admins decide that although a contributor makes good contributions, the benefit their good contributions bring to the project are outweighed by the time they waste. Behaviour like

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I gotta stop looking at all these YouTube clips that're popping up on talk pages... (a) I've got all the Python episodes on DVD anyway (b) every time I do so, my keyboard switches to USA layout, so @ switches places with ", and (where are those tildes... try the sig button)

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Moved Waddon Marsh and Morden Road to their non-halt names. I'm not 100% certain these should actually be separate articles, since they're still open as tram stops and it seems strange to have separate articles on their different identities, but that's a fight not worth the

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is invaluable. (It's hidden behind a paywall, but if you have a UK-issued library card then 95% of British libraries give you free access—just enter your library card number in the box on the left—and if you're not a member of a subscribing library, any UK resident can join

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worked in a call center, I can safely assure you that while rudeness to customers is beyond the pale, the moment that "on call" light is out there's a good chance of a stream of invective that would make a sailor blush. ("When computers were still scary" is a lyric from a

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I agree with your point about the stabilized government section needing more clarifications. I'd also add that I've told the students that they should reference every sentence, and as such, this section (and a bunch of others) should be fact-tagged (I can do it, or would

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Thanks. I'll follow your advice and check with some of the others as well. If you get to it, that would be great too. I'll look at Tarrare in the next 48 hours or so. I had quickly scanned it and it seemed interesting. I liked the one-sentence closer too. Best regards,

8365:; its sister article has been picked up by Stumbleupon and is currently getting around 800 hits per day and I suspect this will go the same way, so it may as well be in decent shape before the vandals notice the potential in "he moved to Liverpool and ate dead rats". – 8413:

for having a "sexist title"). Originally, it was intentionally vaguely worded as "the camp guards brought their captive to the attention of…" as I wasn't sure who among the camp had actually notified the Commission. The main reason for that one was that it proves that

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Malleus, leave it. Either he's sincere and is going to stop constantly trying to pick fights with everyone in which case, apology accepted and everyone put it behind them; or he's not in which case let it go. Him being obnoxious doesn't mean everyone else has to be as

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about the topic so am possibly not the best person to ask. (It's unlikely to be for a couple of days, though.) One thing that immediately jumps out is "Mignon Fogarty points out…" with no explanation of who Mignon Fogarty is or why anyone should care what her opinion

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As a side note, seeing that graph just about broke my heart, Iridescent. It bothers me to have such a low percentage of edits in article space. Although I was rather stunned to see that I had 23 edits to the template namespace, an area I thought I had always avoided.

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I doubt Raul will go for it; it sets too much of a me-too precedent for future requests (and probably also triples the level of vandalism). Obama-McCain was a special case; it would have looked very strange if Knowledge had run a hurricane or bird that day given that

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PS. If you're looking for a cheap laugh at an earnest attempt to treat "regional accent spelt phonetically" as an separate language, it's hard to beat the "if Gerry, Alex and Dafydd can have their own language we want one too" posturing of Paisley and his pals at the

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Sure, will have a read through; you might want to ask Malleus as well. I agree with PoD; "freak show" is an Americanism which jars in a 19th-century English context. "Curiosity" or "prodigy" was how this kind of show was generally described (Treves himself just uses

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Quite. Despite the Union, Scotland and England have remained separate countries in many ways, like the legal and educational systems you mention. Alex probably doesn't have any other cards to play anyway, after his SNP failed to make inroads in yesterday's election.

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Meh. There can be a difference between being seen as standing up for what you believe in, and dog in the manger. I'm no great fan of NYB but his heart's in the right place, and most importantly he's one of those who understands what he is and isn't good at. What he

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UK library regardless of where they live.) Because the DNB is written in the same summary-style as Knowledge, their articles can generally serve as frameworks around which to build WP articles, and as an OUP publication it's an impeccable reliable source in and of

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Get rid of "enamoured". An absolute rule as far as I'm concerned is, if you need to include an external link to explain the meaning of a word, you shouldn't be using the word; in this case there are plenty of synonyms (infatuated with, developed a crush on, taken

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article, do you have any objection to my changing the reference format to match the others? It will make it easier in future if someone has a new piece of information that needs to be added to all six stations, as it will mean it can just be pasted into all six.

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It's all my fault. I should have never asked for an opinion :( Thanks for the help guys. The article should be written in British English but condisering that I spell in American English, can one of you guys fix any cases where I spelled a word in American? Many

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election—I think we have to err on the side of caution when it comes to anything related to British politics at the moment; Seth Finkelstein and friends will be watching the main page like hawks until polling day, looking for any inaccuracies they can run with.

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Could you upgrade the class to C/B as you feel is appropriate? One day I hope to bring those articles to GA myself, if nobody does it before. I agree with your analysis of what happened to D.'s name. Unfortunately, there are many places which sound similar :(

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If anyone has any comments beforehand, I have Daniel earmarked as the next FAC; the more I look at it, the more I think it says all that ought to be said without saying anything more. Besides, despite my general dislike of TFA I think he'd make quite a good

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should it go? There's no "misc" there - "Food and drink people", perhaps? Or the "Historical people - others" section? "Military figures"? I've plumped for the "Food and drink people" section for now, alongside the gorgeous Nigella. Only on Knowledge...

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Perhaps unsurprisingly, I don't entirely agree with Newyorkbrad's assessment, although I'm certainly not about to call him "a corrupt SOB". In fact I don't recall ever having called another editor corrupt; what I have said repeatedly is that I believe the

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Sandy defer to me? that'll be the day. I have to admit that I find Tony quite intimidating, and if I see he's commented on an FAC I've got some interest in, I'm always filled with a sense of dark foreboding. I was pleasantly surprised when he commented on

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foolish but because middle class people in the UK consider them to be so. In some other countries dialects are taught in schools as part of the rich cultural fabric of their country. I wonder if that nice David Cameron would consider introducing the idea?

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No, that's fine; there's always a tricky balance with anything technical in how to cater for Knowledge's mass-readership—who it can safely be assumed will know nothing about the topic in question—without dumbing-down too much and annoying those people who

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No—because of the geographic quirks of the Northern Heights I'm in direct line-of-sight from Alexandra Palace despite not being particularly close, so every other signal gets swamped by it. I have a feeling the last day of the Brill branch is included in

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Personally, if there's only one notable person from the town I'd be inclined to slip him into the "History" section, rather than give him a section on his own. I've never been a fan of "notable residents" sections in general, unless the resident actually

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start with sourcing. As ChrisTheDude (almost) says, by their nature any sources are likely to be expensive full-colour books that aren't in many libraries. If you haven't already, it might be worth pinging both the comic-book and the football regulars. –

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notable person does not get a mention. By the way, I have personally met David Bowie, the Spice Girls, Rod Hull and Emu (erm, had to get that one in, but it is true), and a host of others. We are not going there. Fair enough. Thank you for the input.

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directly as to whether he can suggest someone; people don't necessarily watch project talkpages very thoroughly, but Tony's done so much in collating the Chicago articles together, he'll likely know if anyone has an interest in Yerkes and his dubious

2710:, but I've never taken offence at that, and I wouldn't even take offence if I was called a fucking dick. Neither would I have any hesitation in telling any member of my team at work that they were taking the fucking piss if I thought that they were. 2387:). You can't write anything biologically sensible about "small rodents known as 'mice' in English", and there are no high-quality sources which review small rodents known as "mice" in English. One solution is to simply restrict the term to the genus 2283:

True, the UK situation is unique. Even Austria-Hungary was not truly similar, since the two parts still had separate parliaments and were internally autonomous; there was no one parliament that made Austrian laws one day and Hungarian laws the next.

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closest equivalent in North America would be one of the more powerful Indian reservations. If you think that's bad, try explaining Kaliningrad, the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, the Isle of Man, Andorra, or Alderney to someone outside Europe. –

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isn't really an alternative; this was built by a different company, at a later date, to a different design, and doesn't have either the "wooden hut" building nor the split-level platform which were the distinguishing features of the stations on the

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I'm sure he will. There's some basic stuff that needs to be addressed though, like calling Africa a nation, and the inconsistency in the map. GAN may not be FAC, but we do have our standards. :-) I'm sure the article will be able to make it though.

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form. I took it off on these because it was playing havoc with the figure/section numbering Middleton Press uses, and there are few enough sources used that the loss of the links isn't causing a problem. What I'm talking about is getting rid of the

13974:. My original source was a 1903 map, which I had borrowed, and no longer have, showing a few hundred yards of Akeman Street, passing through the north west corner of Little Thetford. When I drew a line on the map, it showed the road came from near 11285:(re PoD) At the moment this is lined up in my unofficial FAC queue; I try to alternate "engineering history" and "other" there, as I don't want to get pigeonholed as "the one with the disused railway lines". I'm flip-flopping on whether to include 2562:

that reviewing articles in fields I don't know is tricky, as so many areas have their own particular conventions. If you ever want me to look at one in future feel free to poke me here—I won't consider it canvassing given that I've requested it. –

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Try telling a Bavarian that Bavaria isn't completely different and they'll bore you senseless about how they're voluntarily in the Union and their institutions derive from their ancient traditions, not Prussia. With an autonomous government run by

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I understand that. Too bad Malleus doe'nt take after you in that respect, my transition from January to today would have been a lot less painful and more enjoyable. Instead I got an e-mail one day with a link to that thread on WR and the rest was

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At the moment, my draft rewrite of the parent article is up to 80kb and nowhere near complete (although it will be trimmed down quite a bit and possibly split). If a deeply obscure sub-branch has this much to say, I'm dreading how something like

7594:(ec) I was thinking much the same thing. This always seems to happen when anything's on the main page—one does wonder why all these people who are so concerned about the quality of featured articles never appear to deign to visit FAC. (Piano has 8475:

Good point; clarified it. While Tarrare seems to have occasionally eaten patently inedible things (including on at least one occasion swallowing a fork), Domery at least stuck to things that were recognisable as food, albeit of a rather dubious

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clean break could happen in the time it took to organise a referendum. With the SNP and Plaid stagnant electorally but England likely to come under a Tory-DUP coalition which will be loathed in Scotland and Wales, "ourselves alone to escape the

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and tell me if you think I'm being too harsh in not passing it immediately? I'm aware that I can be stricter than some at GAN/FAC; I don't want to let the authors down by not passing it if the more general consensus would have been to wave it

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My 1967 Ian Allan Sectional Atlas shows three halts; my 1977 (1st edn) OPC Rail Atlas shows none. I've gone along the whole line (Wimbledon excluded) adding info from Butt, and have found that the following three bore the name at some period:

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A series of artworks are commission for the Jubillee Line as part of Art on the Underground, the first of which is shown at City Hall until 10 June. Also, for twelve months a digital moving image installation is installed at Canary Wharf tube

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Since then, I have removed a lot of wikilinks anyway. Not sure I had related my Akeman Street to the one passing through Buckinghamshire and Oxforshire. However, my understanding is that Akeman Street is also given to the road starting near

3196:), while the United States' official histories refer to the conflict as World War II, spoken "World War Two". English translations of the official histories of other nations also tend to resolve into English as Second World War, for example 2765:

I've always argued that the purpose of expletives is to act as intensifiers. It's not vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity, it serves a purpose, and anyone who thinks differently is a fucking ignorant American twat. There, I feel better now.

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It's a little confusing because I see people giving each other barnstars. The threshold for awarding a barnstar is highly variable. People also try to get friends by voting in RFAs. (I don't do those politics, I generally don't vote in

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only. The language the Flemish normally speak is about as distinct from the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands as British and American English are distinct from each other. This doesn't have any bearing on the point you were making, though.

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as the "representative station" image. Still fair use, but I think a much better case can be made for this one; it shows the building design in more detail, and makes the (very unusual) dual-level nature of the platforms far clearer.

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The crude stations, which had been little more than earth banks, were replaced with wooden platforms. Waddesdon, Westcott, Wotton and Brill stations were fitted with buildings each housing a booking office, waiting rooms and toilets,

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Oh, feel free – I was just running AWB's spellchecker over it to clear up any typos I'd missed. (Stately homes, horses, Anglo-Saxons, trains, poets and obscure English politicians. All it needs is a hurricane and I think it's a full

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deficiencies. I might well post something at the comic project to see if anyone's interested in lending a hand, although I suspect they've already been notified about the FAR. I think I'll give the football crew a wide berth though.

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Curses - you broke the code! Most of my new articles are railway stations, and indeed I've never had one AfDd, PRODded or worse, SPEEDied (bet I've jinxed it now - knock on wood, never mind). The book mentioned above is detailed at

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Patrollers as anything I create is automatically considered legitimate.) If you want to quickly-and-dirtily boost your created-article count, find a topic where there are a lot of easily-filled redlinks—a stub for every redlink at

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the same person?". If this is a good faith mistake I'd suggest you quit digging this hole any deeper trying to rewrite what you've said; if this is some kind of weird elaborate troll, then go find someone else to play your games

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only submitting these if they meet my "what DYK ought to be" standard of "someone who doesn't care about the topic would potentially find that fact interesting". What's interesting (to me, anyway) is that this series is creating

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Ha... yeah this is probably partly my fault and partly as a result of a copyedit that was done by someone else ("sobriquet" for example). I have made some tweaks and will continue to go through to try to remove the over-flowery

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While I've written a couple of museum articles, my historical articles tend to be on engineering and social history rather than the kind of thing the BM covers. The people you'd be best off talking to on something like this are

15057:, but actually made him go away and play his silly game somewhere else instead of just inflaming him. The civility police can only swoop if they have something to swoop on, and a "fuck off" is like tossing raw meat to a dog. – 8594:, as there's a reliable source for it. I can't find anyone other than Bondeson making the claim about Domery. (Everyone who met Domery seems to have been struck by how ordinary everything about him was.) I don't entirely trust 17026:

that exact redlink already exists on many pages - creating one redirect is easier than amending a heap of pages. It's easy to check how often a redlink occurs - click it, and without doing anything else first, go straight for

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there really isn't a way round it that I can see—they both did very good work, but the time lost to everyone else in the drama that followed them far outweighed their positives. (Both of you, don't bother with the emails.) –

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stories in the paper). Personally, I think a lot of smaller stations are far better served as a bulleted list or a paragraph in an article in the line—if anyone can find anything to say about the intermediate stations on the

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lunatic fringe to credible party of government during the 1980-2007 time frame, so this development would fit that. Whether it would take the form of a Unilateral Declaration of Independence I find hard to imagine; maybe the

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I've given V4V hardly any thought at all, except to move it out out of Guy Fawkes. Of all the cultural references, it seems to me to be the least interesting, but I suppose it keeps cropping up because it's the most recent.

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article. (Giano's "always assume your reader is a bright 14-year old with no prior knowledge but who's keen to learn" is invariably a good rule of thumb when striking a balance between dumbing-down and overspecialization.)

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Then comment in the right place—that is, on the discussion page. It is not down to you to be issuing "final judgements" on what Arbcom need to do, or to summarise others' comments, particularly on a sensitive issue like

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accommodate me" thinking that Rod's guilty of. People looking at this from the outside aren't necessarily familiar with the background; if they're not familiar with the background (and let's face it, who the hell reads

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I have no intention of creating any redirects to compensate for the inadequacies of the mediawiki software, particularly as I think this is a non-issue anyway; if I type "little billy" into the search box I'm taken to

14692:. When we stumbled upon a notable person that actually lived here, you can imagine our delight. Still. Going with the flow. As we cannot pin down where he actually lived (one of two now demolished manor houses), our 2215:

Bundeslaender and comparable to a U.S. state or Canadian province. Chechnya I'll grant you, and the federal structure of Belgium is such that you don't need to go outside Europe to find people not understanding it.

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applies to newcomers, and quite rightly says that we shouldn't expect newcomers to be familiar with Knowledge's standards. You have been here almost a year, have over 3,000 edits, and appear to be on a mission to

15777:(ec) Looks like someone else has already undone it. I can see both sides of the argument as regards the "correct" name, but I'm not expressing an opinion; anything involving Eastern Europe is right up there with 3159:, not Dutch (though whether Afrikaans is a separate language is also debatable—I can understand most of it pretty well as a native Dutch speaker), and I don't know that "laager" is a Dutch word (perhaps you mean 201:, arguably the greatest of them all, up to a better standard than "tried to turn the Tories into a social democratic party 150 years too early but got run over by a train in Eccles before he could carry it out"; 11046:

Why not ask for an investigation if you think there are reasonable grounds for suspecting that Iridescent and I are the same person? Who knows, you may get lucky, and at last find your excuse to have me banned.

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If Knowledge were serious about improving coverage of the history of arts, literature and philosophy in Britain, the most useful action they could take (by quite a long way) would be to unblock Ottava and Peter

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would be on the Stamford Bridge spoil coming from the deep-level excavations for the Piccadilly Line, with the clay from the Met and District railways being fired into bricks and/or used in the building of the

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presence or absence makes any significant difference. It's a lesson some learn quicker than others, and if he's telling the truth about that "twelve hours a day, seven days a week" that's not a hobby, that's a

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Re John: Yes, and I stand by it; pronunciation might be different to Home Counties English, but the grammar of Lothian & Fife is probably the closest in the UK to that of written English. (There's a reason

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Really? I see several places there where my knowledge of German and Dutch was more useful than my knowledge of English for understanding the text ("ilkane" = archaic Dutch "elkeen"; "Wales" = German "Wahlen").

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Fraudatifilius? Sounds quite serious too. Thanks again; I think one of the great assets of FAC reviews is that I get a variety of people looking at the articles I write, and my writing has certainly benefited.

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Something which nobody seems to have mentioned—and while I wouldn't expect Baltimore-based Ottava to notice it, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it—is that while "V" isn't meant to be Guy Fawkes, there's a

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No problem - it happens. Didn't seem like you, somehow, but I wouldn't have put it past some of the other usual suspects there (and wasn't about to go through every post in the history to find who it was). –

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user should be unbanned, asked to provide proof that he is not Bruce Jenner, asked to change his user name, then banned under the new user name. This current ban tarnishes the name of Olympic medalist, Bruce

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No; regions in England have no power over anything at all (policy is set by the UK government; there's not even an English governing body, let alone separate bodies for the regions within England). Wales has

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in views of the articles linked from them, which is suggesting to me that at least some people actually do click on bluelinks to learn more things mentioned in the articles with which they're not familiar. –

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ask. That's the only person I know to ask. The help desk is for simpler questions, like formatting references. In turn, if I have questions about Knowledge culture and Knowledge history, I might ask you.

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needs its own article, whatever Jimmy Wales may say in his more crazed "every person in the world should have an article if we have the sources" moments, and it might fit more comfortably as a paragraph in

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will end up. (I plan to do one of the open stations next—probably Chesham, as it's neatly self-contained—once Quainton Road and the parent article are done, to get a feel for how much time they'll take.) –

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as well, who of all the compulsive-eaters of the late 18th century is by far the most likeable character. Although I'm not certain the horse he continued to ride until he weighed 560 pounds would agree. –

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I tend to agree. Thanks for offering to cast your eye over Roy anyway. If I can't address the citation issues once the unofficial biography arrives then I really will have to give up on it. Until then ...

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Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Alien, Flesh Eating, Hellbound, Zombified Living Dead Part 2: In Shocking

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nominate it, but that's not how it works. Besides, how would someone address content problems if they are not familiar with the article/subject? I'm waiting for Sandy to remind PNT that FAC isn't a vote.

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cleaning up King's Cross). Watkin was involved in so many harebrained railway speculations that a full overview of his empire would stretch from the Matadi–Kinshasa Railway to the Manchester Metrolink. –

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to see that this pipe-dream never completely died), there's a parallel and equally important story about the great mill reformers of the North on both left and right. (At some point, I really want to get

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Seen and noted. As you may have guessed, I think this is frivolous and based on nonsense such as "this was nominated at FAC by an editor involved in writing it" and a spurious claim of a conspiracy. –

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comes with an accent and a few words not commonly used elsewhere. In some parts at least the latter would be barely intelligible to a speaker of a more standard form of English. (You can test yourself

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interested in that side of things, it saves people who are more interested in the human story from being swamped by "a Manning Wardle 2-4-0 saddle tank locomotive built in Stoke" technical detail. –

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No problem; I'll wait until it's at least approaching a finished form before I start making comments, as I don't want a "that's not the way I'd have done it" situation. I'll keep it watchlisted. –

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were both FAs, but the WMF's charitable status is dependent on US political neutrality so it needed that odd "equal treatment" setup. (Most people were blissfully unaware, but there were actually

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As I suggested on talk, the students should try to compare that list to the list from Wallenstein, as sourced in the semi-periphery article, and I'd suggest you point that out in your review (see

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Knowledge has never been short of absolutely pointless argument. Yes, it's easy to draw that line, but if we do, be sure we'll get people who saw we are making a travesty of the English language.

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You just did :) Also, the FAC was up for seven days, had no outstanding issues and support from credible experienced reviewers-- Karanacs promoted this one, but I promote similar in six days.

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I'm not sure about this - this is basically what the Howell & Ford source says. I'm away from home but will check it when I get back and try to clarify this from other sources if necessary.

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they never went into mass-production—Halkett built them to order. (He had to build a new one for Franklin when Franklin gave his to Simpson, implying he didn't keep a stockpile.) I can find it

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I know it looks like a disproportionate reaction, to slap down a good faith suggestion in this way, if you're not familiar with the underlying issues. As I said to you already, have a read of

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article. It's rare for an engineering diagram to have such a period charm while still illustrating perfectly the principle it was intended to demonstrate. Although I compared it to Tenniel's

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after the 16th century; the two countries kept their own coinage and laws, but were both governed centrally from Copenhagen. I believe Finland within Russia had a similar arrangement as well.

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but with no control over finances (still set by Central Government) no effective autonomy other than a few local-interest issues (flood defences, road maintenance and such); Scotland has the

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Swedish (it passes the "what language was the Bible distributed in?" test) – but Scots, English, various Irish, Norman French and (especially) Essex dialect have fused to make modern English.

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created when someone generated an automatic warning for writing "poop" three years ago. At one point, someone used a script to delete the older talk-pages, but it led to Howls Of Protest. –

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Anyway, I hear your comments and shall try to be mindful of others in the future. I am sorry to have crossed you. I am serious when I say that I will be mindful of your comments. Sorry.

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Re-read what I've written above, in particular the word "British". Ceoil's done some magnificent work but, with the exceptions of Bacon (Irish, but lived in London for most of his life) and

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on this one; he's the person whose judgement I'll generally take as gospel on anything related to Michael Jackson. If it's about the general issues about prose style, you might want to ask

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I've not used "young Richard"—to me it sounds silly using it to describe a man in his late thirties. (Whatever is done with those names, they're going to look ridiculous come what may.) –

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matter either way—it's hopefully obvious to anyone who wants to check the sources that "Mitchell & Smith 2006, §78" and "Mitchell & Smith 2006, fig 78" refer to the same thing. –

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I wonder if there is cause to record my Akeman Street (erm the more accurate Akeman Street which passes nearby Little Thetford in Cambridgeshire) as Mereway? You may recall we discussed

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of my edits to articles (more than any other subject though) and yet I consider myself a content writer. What's wrong? (other than the fact that I spent about 4 months making edits like

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PS. If the criticism of the article is to do with prose issues (I haven't looked), then Tony is definitely your best port of call, so don't let me put you off getting in touch with him.

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Gawrsh, you got me. Yes, two people posting in the same thread is indisputable proof that they're the same person. Are you related to Ottava by any chance? And yes, "I am sure that you

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thoughtfully collates all the "greatest Prime Minister we never had" and "killed on the opening day of the first inter-city train" elements very well, complete with all the sources.) –

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Thanks for the input. Sorry to waste your time. I didn't know it was such a hotspot. I never seem to learn from the old expression: "Fools rush in where fools have been before". Best,

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Just remind me, am I your sockpuppet or are you mine? I supose it's all bound to come out now, that SandyG is also one of my army of sockpuppets. Ah well, it was good while it lasted.

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when i wrote the article. I had chosen the index carefully. I had felt that the average earnings calculation I had done was the correct one for this case, as I was trying to show how

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There never was a Golden Age of DYK "before all the good ones were taken"; it's always been like this. I know I've posted it before but it warrants repeating—the original 5 DYKs were:

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I've mentioned that quaint (to my ear) "gotten" before, and I've always found "getting" to be a rather vulgar euphemism. Tony's done a lot of great work, but he's not always "right".

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field would mean going through every single use of it manually adding the caption, for an end result that would look exactly the same, it's not something I'd consider a high priority.

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Yes, that article is on my to-do list. The problem is that "mouse" is a meaningless term: it's just applied to small rodents that are too small to be "rats" (and even that not always—

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Kids In Africa would be far better served by improved access to good-quality English, French, Arabic, Russian, Portuguese, Spanish and Chinese materials than pointless stubfarms like

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OR was the one who suggested I ask you. He and I have been putting these together for some time, and he has been begging me to finish what we started. He suggested either you or MF.

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You see, that's my probem Casliber. Because I've only created 37 articles, people think I'm a lightweight. I'm getting rather tired of picking up the detritus left by others anyway.

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Will do when I get the chance; my comments were a quick-skim driveby, not a full FAC review. One other quick driveby comment I'd make is, be careful with a comment as outlandish as

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I've never been a great fan of DYK, so I have rather few of them. In general, I tend to take articles I'm not sure I either can, or can be bothered to get through FAC to GAN, like

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Of course, in Merrick's case the slightly derogatory associations may actually be appropriate, since what makes him notable is that he was so thoroughly shunned for his appearance.

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more offence at that than I would to someone telling me to "fuck off". I guess it's OK from the civility police's point of view though, because Piano didn't use any naughty words.

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ANI: I think that was my first. Hate it with a passion. I've read a few. Some more like Hitchhiker's Guide insanity than Brazil. The antithesis of where I'd like to spend my time.

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Did he eat the bottles of porter, or consume the contents? Normally I'd assume that someone wouldn't eat the actual bottle, but in this case I can't really make that assumption!

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Bank, Charing Cross, Earl's Court, Green Park, Holborn, Hyde Park Corner, Knightsbridge, Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Victoria are to reduce energy usage for the 10:10 campaign

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London Underground and the Royal Society for the protection of Birds (RSPB) team up to launch wildlife competition to encourage people to use the Underground for nature spotting.

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And forgive me for nitpicking; it was a very thorough and perceptive list of suggestions otherwise, and I should have mentioned that before correcting your spelling, probably. --

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is a "noxious accusation against you". (That "noxious accusation" was clearly directed at me and not Malleus, before you try that line of defence, since you say "You have cited

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That one could do with a good wash-and-scrub, given that it's one of our most read articles and is currently in a rather sorry never-mind-the-quality-count-the-characters state.

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The software will redirect Little Billy Films to Little Billy films and Little billy films, so there is literally no need for these endless redirects to exist nowadays, no. –

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Freud lived in Ely, not in Little Thetford, surely? When I was at Mildenhall I used to see him wandering about with a "Do you know who I am?" expression on my trips into town.

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in the FAC mix—I'm confident that the article's comprehensive, but the sources have such big gaps that it makes the article seem unsatisfactory. The next one will probably be

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I'm a bit worried though. What'll happen if the investigation shows that we're the same person? Will I implode? That could make such a mess of our newly decorated lounge. :-(

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Fair enough. I will use (about £{{formatnum:{{Inflation|UK|0.1|1866}}|0}} as of {{CURRENTYEAR}}) {{sfn|Jackson|2006|p=134}}{{Inflation-fn|UK}} in the article. I had read the

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because lock-up in present day usage refers to the cells in police stations. Ironically, the US has preserved the gaol/prison distinction which has been lost in Britain, and

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I've got the first six articles under my belt but would appreciate some pre-GAN comments (as I suspect that most of the next 67 will be variations on a theme). Examples are

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That's an artefact of the way it was written, rather than an effort at gender-neutrality (I still recall fondly the obsessive gender-equality campaigner demanding I remove

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I will do. As long as the map is sourced that's fine, but in that case it at least needs an explanatory footnote somewhere to clarify the status of Russia in particular. –

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Awarded for shining a bright light on to the shadowy hinterland of the Metropolitan Railway's Brill branch and bringing it to the glory of GA-dom. Keep up the good work. --

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I'm not saying roll over when the civility police come calling; I'm saying there's no point giving them rope. When he tried an identical piece of baiting on me, my reply (

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without a source; payment in kind isn't the same as "currency", any more than a bailiff repossessing an car to cover a debt means that automobiles are used as currency. –

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links in the references section will lead people ultimately to Halkett's brochure, so anyone whose interest is piqued enough by the article to go looking, will find it. –

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Huh—I always assumed "laager" (in the sense of "military camp") was Dutch, because of that double-a, but apparently that's the Afrikaans spelling and the Dutch is "leger".

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I usually notice when it happens before I hit save, or when checking the diff afterwards, but 1) am rusty, and 2) am angry, so not up to usual standard of self-checking.

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Ooh good, a day of reverting. I have to say, I'll be pleased to see that picture get a wider audience; it reminds me of nothing so much as one of Tenniel's drawings from

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people into doing the US side of his career; they're very active, and he's such a key figure in the development of Chicago that they'd probably be quite willing to do it.

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Thanks for that tip, I've not tried doing those kinds of searches before. I'll definitely make use of that. Should also be good for creating incoming links to articles.--

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Town? Soap stars? Pop stars? We are a 2 sq mi (5.2 km) island in the fens for goodness sake. We struggle to find anyone! We did manage to find an Anglo-Saxon noblewoman

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By the way, you may be the perfect person to ask. I've always wondered about the ratio of mainspace to non-mainspace kilobytes. Any idea where to get that figure? Best,

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may begin to believe that such things are standard and expected, and do the same with other pages. I'm not going to fight anyone over it though, it's not my problem.

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Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at

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Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at

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lately, but hopefully will expand Wotton into a similar format and rewrite Quainton Road (it seems to me that quite a bit of the current article should either be on

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Was given name which is unusually long, although not any kind of record holder (the article even specifically states it's not the longest English surname on record);

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Thanks. What an outrageous waste of keystrokes. This is maybe a glimpse of the future where bots become self-aware, wipe out the editors, and take over the project.

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It's not something I'd lose sleep over personally; I'm looking at this from a "prospective first FAC" point of view, trying to pre-empt Tony's likely objections. –

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Image copyrights make my brain hurt; I've fair-use-ified them, even though Sandy will probably have kittens at the idea of three fair use images on one article. –

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we always use "name at time of closure". Because BR abolished the term "halt" in 1974, anything still open at that date doesn't have "halt" in the name other than

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That's a bit uncalled for, Malleus. And again, I came here to apologize to Iridescent; if that makes me a "sanctimonious twat" then I guess I must be. Do you know

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to try to keep the parent article at a manageable size. The two photos you've suggested are of the later, Manning Wardle locomotive; to the best of my knowledge,

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If you're thinking of taking this to FAC, it would be a good idea to add a note making it clear what the basis of the calculation is, as you'll see at the end of

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I'd get rid of "meeting a lady"; "lady" and "woman" aren't synonyms. In the context of 19th-century Whitechapel, "lady" is effectively a euphemism for prostitute;

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could safely be sent on its way as well; that's not "the first encyclopædia in the Scots leid", it's a collection of 3000 crudely translated en-wiki stubs.) –

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Tube Lines and shareholders, Ferrovial and Bechtel, must demonstrate plans are robust and prove Tube Lines is creditworthy, as challenged by the Mayor and TfL

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today, while you're here; although I've only left a short comment, that's because I can't find anything to argue with, not because I didn't bother looking. –

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replied to points iridescent specifically made. But if you have sincere concerns about sockpuppetry the correct and obvious thing to do is file a request at

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Thanks for the cheap laugh. Ever been to Edinburgh? Typical Edinburgh speech isn't very close to "standard-written-English" at all, at all. See the works of

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WikiProject London Transport has been added to a project that has generated a list of the most visited pages related to this project. These can be found at

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and deciding it was unethical; in 2005 MyWikiBiz was accepted by Jimmy Wales and the WMF, under almost the same arrangement you're currently operating.) –

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for Yerkes. I'll probably do that at some point. His article really does deserve to be improved given that he gave London much of the Underground, Chicago

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Hammersmith & City and Circle to close between 24th July and 15th August for upgrade work as well as works to do with Paddington station and Crossrail

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format, which I think is horribly counterintuitive to anyone else coming along to edit the article later (and will make the page look an absolute mess if

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While you're here—as you know, I'm working my way down the Brill Tramway expanding them, with an eye on getting the seven articles (the six stations plus

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wasn't the best-selling and most-recognisable mask in England. Even if Alan Moore has never actually said it explicitly, I'm sure the connection is there.

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Improvements such as maps, signs and timetables as well as flags showing "River Buses" for commuter boats and "River Tours" for tourists to be introduced

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Not knowing which stations you're discussing, I can't give any definitive comments... but if you would like to provide a list, I can check in my copy of

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It's rare that I read a full-length article from start-to-finish, but always do so with these intriguing and well-written pieces of yours. Keep it up! –

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PS. I'll also add to you (Malleus) that you really do need to take on board what NYB is saying there. Regardless of who's in the wrong this time, there

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Careful, Sandy. Apparently "posted in the same thread as me" is proof of being my sockpuppet. Shall I file the RFCU now, or are you going to confess? –

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Option 2. At this size it looks better to me, although it is rather over contrasted so that detail is lost in the shaded areas when viewed full size.--

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of "I demand you rewrite this in American English" stupidity, my already low opinion of it has ratcheted considerably lower in the last few minutes. –

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With North Sea oil running out, I don't see partition as a sensible choice for Alex, but who knows. Certainly it might be a convenient solution to the

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separate languages, the two are intermingled enough now that modern Scots is just a dialect form of Standard English; we don't have separate sites for

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the worst excesses of most admins. The sanctions that do exist—ranging from irate people turning up on your talkpage, to ANI, to the full wrath of the

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is the only extant photo of a Bagnall locomotive in operation. (All three books on the route describe it as such.) As regards the stations, I've kept

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has been back in DC for several years, and van der Weyden was not at all "Dutch"). "AFAIK" evidently does not stretch too far frankly - see Ceoil's

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say unless it is stated Newton told Daniel "you can do whatever you want with them", but Newton did express the wish for a museum to take his work.

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Well, Nuke tried his damnedest, but he was foiled by MBisanz. Alas. I guess I ought to disable this auto-ping feature now. Unless you enjoy it? --

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versions)? We know main is 3.5 million. My guess: Article talk 2, User talk 6, backroom bickering and guidelines 1 = total 9 million. Am I close?

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Another discussion as well as straw poll has been on whther the frequency of trains per hour should be added. It appeared there was no consensus.

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Will keep an eye on it and let you know if I think of anything else. I don't think it's ready for FAC yet, but it's certainly well on the way. –

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Another discussion as well as straw poll has been on whther the frequency of trains per hour should be added. It appeared there was no consensus.

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I give it an hour before someone says the magic words "civility block". Why is it that everyone on Knowledge is either crazy, stupid, or both? –

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Have done, although I wouldn't worry too much; with two supports and no opposes, I doubt it will be archived unless a bunch of opposers turn up.

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for an article about an 18th-century French soldier with an eating disorder. The public really will read anything if only you sell it right. –

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is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?

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is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?

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Smith themselves use the term "picture", see caption to Waddesdon Road picture 33 which includes the text "It also appears in picture 28 ...".

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do is insist that "your" version is the only version that's true and everyone else is wrong and revert to your preferred version six times. –

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unhealthy proportion of 2008 beta-testing the program, you might want to consider that maybe they keep reverting your changes for a reason. –

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Um… I wouldn't recommend taking Billy as a role model. Communicating too much is a problem, but so is not communicating enough, which is why

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could be done with one trip to a library to borrow a gazetteer of defunct railway stations, and they'd all have guaranteed immunity from AFD.

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What part of "stop right there, both of you" are you having problems with? Contrary to popular belief, my talkpage is not a Facebook page. –

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for all wikis, so it's more a matter of a lot of data to process (over 300 million revisions or something now) rather than anything else. --

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the 19th century, as we have the scrapping dates for the locomotives in them; at what point do unattributed photos become "old enough"?) –

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is, in fact, my current preference (see above). Middleton Press don't actually use "section" numbers, but "figure" numbers; if you look at

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up to FA/FL fairly easily, so as long as I can get two of the stations to FA (probably Westcott and Quainton Road, although the thought of

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mainpages that day, one with McCain first and one with Obama first, and a random-number generator determined which of the two you saw.) –

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Excellent—as I say, I'll do Westcott, Wood Siding and Brill once Brill's FAC is finished one way or the other. I've been sidetracked with

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Yeah. On looking at the article it is clearly written in UK Eng with a few US spellings thrown in. "Vigorous" isn't one of them though. --

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is removable now; at the time I added it the article discussed the technical detail of the locomotives, but I've since moved that off to

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desirable—it needs somebody with the power to cut through the arguments and petty-empires. (Note that this isn't a dig at the DYK people

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Yes, Malleus, I know I was criticising these last month for encouraging people to clog GAN rather than go straight to FAC. I'm fickle. –

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into some sort of extended disambiguation page that directs people to the right article and discusses the term itself. The situation for

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DYK has lost its way. Anyway, I've created 40 articles now, only another 35 to go before I can refuse to have the autoreviewer "right".

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also movie soundtracks, and yet are not studio albums by Pink Floyd. Doesn't seem that difficult. However, to humor you, I have gone to

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it's a lot easier to find sources (and the existing articles generally need less work). Once it gets south of Aylesbury, I can always

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I agree – and also the one most likely to be familiar to Americans, thanks to the film – but I do think there's a story to be told in

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I read that intriguing article shortly after I ate. I'm just glad I hadn't read it while eating; I wouldn't have finished my meal. –

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I suspect the church themselves did the translations as a publicity stunt; I can't imagine the Anglo-Saxon Knowledge (still missing

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Looks good to me, although I give it a week before a Defender of the Wiki undoes it. There must be something that can be done with

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Will look over Roy tomorrow (if I'm allowed to under the New Order). If you want a piece of light relief, you can have a skim over

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of Czechoslovakia in 1993 is a better model for us (I am an expatriate Scot) to take. Interesting times, however you look at it. --

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I am not sure if I can help any further, but I uploaded the two photos in that magazine if you wish to use them instead. Enjoy!

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Iridescent, may I make a passing question? I've got about 15,300 edits in about my first year being here. But I've only got about

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FACs with that many comments often put people off commenting further, so without further support it'll probably not be promoted.

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II" – these are Americanisms (the British English is "First World War"/"Second World War", and the Belgians themselves would say

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fit of outrage I can't disagree with the suggestion that there is a certain lack of quality on said wiki. For further mirth try

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Daniel Brandt and Greg Kohs could no doubt give you a Google-loves-Knowledge conspiracy theory, but the reality's more prosaic;

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Almost all articles have been assessed of their quality and importance to the project. Well done to everyone on the assessment.

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is, I hope, not as dull as it was before. Some boxes, nice purple stripes and a map off commons. Two sources is all it took. --

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as a list of red links? All the similar lists are just the same, but of course lots of those articles would be just as dull as

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FWIW, I'm quite relaxed about anyone being paid to write, good luck to 'em. It's the result that matters, not the motivation.

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Is that the one with the boat in it? I went in one with a boat in it (in Derbyshire I think) and thought it was rather fun....

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