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referencing the council's website re lists of primary and secondary schools on the LBTH page - and then identifying all relevant schools on the locality page - plus their websites - plus their OFSTED reports. This is locally relevant information - which should be made as accessible as possible to Joe Public!!! It also reduces the current tendency for articles about locales to look a bit like history essays. (Very good history essays I have no doubt - but history essays for all that!) The locale articles need to produce a rounded perspective on the present. If you produce a list of schools on the LBTH page then it's not very helpful as it's difficult to see which ones are located where - pretty much in the same way as has been my experince while trying to get the **&&^%% map to focus correctly at the right level so I can sort out where they are all located. Why on earth should we expect users of wikipedia to go through that if we can make it simpler for them? You will note a recurring theme in pretty much everything I do - which is that I'm very, very focused on the reader and making it simpler for them to access reliable information.
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article. However, if a theatre is a major venue, in which hundreds or thousands of notable actors have appeared, such as the
Haymarket, then it only unbalances and clutters up the article to mention particular appearances by actors, except for the ones that are particularly notable, because there are lots of really notable things to say about that theatre, and we should be focusing on those and not just throwing in information because we happen to come accross it. I am sure that there is more to say about the Haymarket that is far more notable than that Hiller or Daniell played in yet another play there, unless that play is of enough importance that we can write more than a stub about it. If they played in an important play, then yes, definitely say so. But let's be a little selective in putting the most notable information in the article. Best regards, --
3460:; looks like there was a theatre stub, but it got merged (as one sentence) into the later cinema - enjoy the thrills, the spills, the cries of rage from cinemaophiles as two-thirds of the article turns to theatre ... No, as you say, its been a pleasure. A tremendous amount achieved in a short time and a lot of justice done to London's Victorian theatre history. There's more, somewhere like Mile End Road had over 300 theatres and music halls between Aldgate and Mile End - there's the area's Yiddish theatre (verging on original research ... tempted?). No this month I've clocked as many edits as in the previous three months, so you're right to give it a rest. It's good to hit these things in a rush, with all the references to hand, but ultimately better to get back to real life! Good luck with everything.
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doing their bit around places in the East End - and think that anybody coming along and contributing is getting in the way / doesn't know what they're doing / thinks they know it all. Not very nice. Some of the comments made to me have been plain downright rude - despite the wiki injunctions about behaviour. But nobody owns Wiki. There are no personal territories and people do come and go - and write/contribute - within the constraints of time and expertise. I entirely agree that the way to move forward is to co-operate - but surely that that has to include welcoming new people and asking them what they have to offer and how they think articles can be improved. Especially if they've been working in areas which are a lot further along than London.
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or have some other indicia of notability. It may be significant to an actor's career that he stepped into a role in a dull play for a few performances -- he might have been noticed by a casting director and soon hired for a really significant role. It should then be mentioned in the actor's bio article; but I don't think it means that that work ought to be listed in the *theatre's* article. I disagree that people want to see too much detail about less notable productions in an article about a theatre. I'm content to leave it in for now, but the
Haymarket is an important theatre, and if we want to upgrade it to Good Article, we will need to do some editing. For one thing, I don't think the "list" approach will wash. Best regards, --
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1971:. Frankly, I think Knowledge's coverage of the entire subject is a little inconsistent and confused currently. If you can add any clarity, please do so by all means, but I think that many British Victorian authors referred to their low comedy works as burlesque. By the way, there is also some confusion with Victorian melodrama, pantomime and other forms, as well as "variety", "vaudeville", "music hall", etc., and indeed, I believe that in the Victorian era, many stage works mixed elements of the various comic forms. Whew!! I'll stop talking now. --
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agenda, and any mention of politics tends to drag them out of the woodwork - you know the kind of thing, if you've got
Respect there, why don't you list UK independents, or the Scots Nats! Put political parties represented in the boro' on the boro' page, make it their local party site and don't duplicate them throughout the area articles. Put the main parties and any who have councillors - so Respect, but I think no Greens in TH. Put their full official title, in alphabetical order. Anticipate severe anon vandalism, from all the other parties ...
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theatre - tidied up a bit of too obvious plagiarism and then found that the entire cat:English dramatists and playwrights was in a bit of a mess, so started going through them with the AWB tool - looking for obvious blunders, omissions (not yours of course) and things that can tidied up - like the defaultsort (the tool does most of that for you, so is worth using. The annoying thing is when someone made a mistake with the name in one entry, then it makes you do the whole list manually). Trouble is, I think I'm still only half way through.
7580:), their solution to the problem was to shoot a few and re-educate the rest - so, perhaps best not go there! I think of article development as moving it in the direction of 'some ideal notion of quality'; the reality of wiki is you push in one direction and five push in the opposite. If you don't develop a healthy sense of live and let live, it will quickly drive you mad. Sometimes you get a chance to do something which gives a few people satisfaction, other times you just have to watch it all fall apart. Move on.
1999:), you could do anything you wanted, so long as it had musical accompaniment of some kind. So, all the theatres had a piano, and a guy played the piano while the play was going on. Melodrama was a sort of play where there was musical underscoring all the time anyway, and I think most "Burlesques" had actual musical numbers, which were, at least in some cases, silly lyrics set to well-known melodies, like "Greensleeves" or something from Mozart. Maybe some of the "external links" will help you. Good luck! --
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3907:, don't fiddle! I wrote most of it, but it is the result of consultation and co-operation by many people. That is something I think could go through the process - notice that it tells a tale, but not detailed. The details are in the supporting articles - where they should be. Draw the reader in, let them make up their mind what is relevant and what is not. Everything doesn't have to be in the article - it's a wiki - the links are what are important. OK, be bold - I nominated it, let's see what happens.
1369:(including the proprietor of the Britannia) breaking the law and putting on such plays. The first proper Music Halls, such as the Middlesex etc belong to a later period: the 1850's. The unusual thing about the Britannia was that it served drinks in the auditorium as per a music hall, but, to re-iterate, it opened as a theatre before the world had ever heard the term 'music hall'. It was a lot later (in the 1880s) that music-hall and theatre got confused under the name of 'variety theatre'.
3929:- as I have already started to do on one or two articles. Then I shall be pulling in information about councillors and their websites and schools and their websites. Any problem with that? Do we need some sort of category page to discuss treatment of TH articles as a group - as opposed to each one individually. I looked for one of these when I started and simply couldn't find one. And it's a bit difficult to communicate with people across the piece when there isn't anywhere to do it.
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Curtain plaque is in Hewitt St, a cul-de-sac leading off
Curtain Road, by the way...And there is a Shakespeare memorial window in St Helen's, Bishopgate: the ONLY window not destroyed by the two adjacent IRA bomb blasts of the early 90's. Also there used to be an original Shoreditch borough arms metal plaque tacked on to the outside of the massage parlour in Gt Eastern St, but that has since been removed by some unknown person. I do have a photo of it in my Shoreditch scrapbook though...
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social trend by which theatre going in the twentieth century eventually became confined to the middle class. According to
Weightman ('Bright Lights, Big City') in the 19th century up to about 1900 theatre going was a cheap popular entertainment for the working classes. Then came the cumulative decline in taste in which, in turn, music-halls, cinemas and bingo became the preffered option of a night out, as TV meantime transformed them all into a generation of couch-potatos...
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my knowledge ... I can now bore for
Britain on Tudor Hackney ... beginning to have trouble finding my way around the modern streets! And as for going to Stepney, now spend all my time looking over my shoulder for Burkers! Keep at it, some agreement is always possible when people stop shaking their dongs at each other. I think your latest friend remains anon because he's already pulled the trick and been pulled before, I think it's probably a he, could be a sock-puppet!
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did you know that during
Britain's 'finest hour' (1940) the War Minister Hore-Belisha was replaced, for no apparent reason, except that he was a Jew?). If you do enough digging into the historical records you can find some pretty unsavory stuff which often belies the English self-image of tolerence: I have a photo from 1938 showing a huge urban crowd doing a Fascist salute in the direction of some agitator. Belin? Vienna? No actually its Bermondsey...
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up a lot of detail about performance in the article, and that can be somewhat difficult to read. Perhaps we should extend the introduction - make that an executive summary of important events in the life of the theatre; and retain the detail below it? I started out doing a historical section for an inner city suburb recently, and began doing it historically and ended up doing it by topic. 's funny how these things work out ...
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Hoxton Hall, detoured into
Bunhill fields, but Finn got there first. Shoreditch church, Bell, memorial and vicar snapped. Left Columbia Road for another day. Photos up, if you want to check. Had to climb over furniture to get the memorial, so it's a bit of an odd shot. It's upstairs - so you need permission, but the vicars a gem, said there was a memorial window in St James, Curtain Rd, but it took a blighty one for Winnie.
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read like an interesting story. You've done a good bit towards tidying that up.I think there's a bit of a jump (now) into the late period, but that probably reflects the relative importance of the buildings. From the
Georgian period, Whitechapel/Mile End Road had over 100 (200?) music halls along it's length - most music rooms in pubs; some large purpose built. There should be some of this in the Charlie Booth archive.
2301:(historic). This will leave the modern theatre very stubby, but I can't get any responses as to whether this is a good idea, or not. Just massive disinterest, or the usual wiki crowd thing of waiting until you've actually done it, and then whingeing for the sake of whingeing. There's about fifty links to them both - most of which will have to be changed to the old theatre - so, I'm trying to come to terms with AWB.
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other historical anomalies into the system. Our old friend Norton
Folgate, being a case in point, where some responsibilities were taken away from them for failing to organise anything properly - like being amongst the first to have gaslight, but not having proper paved streets, or sewerage ... It's a difficult job, so good luck to you! I'll try to help with formatting and editing once life returns to normal.
307:- sadly now a supermarket - it had a glass roofed music room at the back, and you could see the previous layout in the ceiling (always look at the ceiling ...) Most refurbs of pubs these days are complete strip out jobs, and all 'authenticity' is added later! Laterly, the saloon was an area with a carpet and comfy chairs, with a couple of pence on the price, but entertainment was much the same idea.
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a penny). Not too sure about lists in local articles, I think text descriptions of notables with a breakout to individual articles, where significant. It's kinda wot got me started on theatres - now I'm writing on music halls, trying to help out on the gap in Victorian theatre history, and still managing to put my oar in where it's not wanted ... actually the Open House list would be a good start!
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article is not my progeny. Like yourself, I have tweaked, and am aware that more tweaking is required. One is chasing down the refs, and putting more in-line from multiple sources. The e-theatre group (link on Fortune Playhouse talk page) specialise in the area; although I did some work on The Theatre, The Curtain and The Red Lion (playhouse); I can't claim to be an expert. (I would bet that
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4060:, you'll find who starred in the original production. I'm trying to streamline Wiki articles by removing redundant facts that are included in the blue-linked articles. If there was no way to reference additional info (due to lack of a blue-linked source), then it would be appropriate to include the details. I hope that explanation clarifies my intent. Thanks for your input!
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the patent theatres. This meant that nearly everything had to be accompanied by music, and more generally to include variety in order to distance itself form 'serious theatre'. I still imagine them tap-dancing through Banquo's ghost scene ... I've had this row with Colin4c, as one theatre (of that time) we were talking about clearly included variety in its 'serious' drama.
6392:(so could end up being hijacked to disappearing too far up it's own posterior antonym); secondly, the focus, how would it differ from an extension to an article on (say) Holmes? The Limehouse of Holmes is only a short cab ride from Baker Street, but we know that there was so much traffic that it would take hours and participants would all be knee deep in horse shit ...
7353:, Hornsey rates a mention, but no form of Harringay. Generally, the Victoria County History is regarded as the definitive account of the history of London, because the project is the most heavily peer reviewed historical publication. In respect of the manor of Harringay, I would think (but don't know!) that this is probably a sub-manor of Hornsey. Since the
1665:... and well done for making the start. I didn't want to interfere too much when you were still in full flow, but all articles benefit from collaborators and the editing process. It's interesting that we all start from such different perspectives and end up bumping into each other ... There is another user who has expressed an interest in London theatre at
4092:. It seems very odd. Given he seems to think he controls the musical theatre project when, in fact, I'm the only one who has contributed new articles to it on a daily basis for the past few months, I think I was quite civil in the way I addressed him. But that's beside the point. What interests me is why you would be so interested. Thank you.
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your work in the same style as them, c). not quote websites verbatim, and d). write prose, rather than disconnected sections - it looks like notes at the moment. If you need to experiment, or work something out, then please use your Sandbox - with Wiki you're publishing immediately and that should be at least partially complete. Use the
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abusive alter ego, who does the dirty work for a 'respectable' editor with a real name. The sort of Jeckyll and Hyde approach to editing. Anyway, I have left a version of my edit on 'The Whitechapel Murders' in the talk page of the Jack the Ripper article, so that some people at least will have a chance of making an informed judgement.
3263:. If you got on a bus, to take you to Bow, it would still drop you at the same place, i.e. Bow High Street, by Bow Church - which stubbornly remains by Bow Bridge. You're also attempting to apply an inappropriate schemata to a London area, which has had no formal boundaries since 1865 - except for a short lived informal existence as a
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think you'd want to know of Judi Dench's first west end performance, but wouldn't want an account of a wet Wednesday afternoon in rep at the Portsmouth Empire. The same goes for a notable actor, in a lack lustre play that closes after the previews - although, that in itself might be notable. Perhaps the sections should be relabelled
3674:. With my pic, tho I didn't write the piece. I think the whole thing - as a system - deserves better treatment. And the little-known but very visible Limehouse Tower was the earliest generating component of it as far as I know. GLIAS (Greater London Industrial Archaeology Society) have much more, will put something together soon.
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boro's are often named after a central district, and all sorts of crap gets put there that is actually about the boro'. Your good friend Colin has done a lot of good work, you may not like the way he does, but he is within wiki guidelines and finds useful material in books, so not easily appropriate to in-line refs to websites.
655:(about 1800). It all gets very complicated (Norton Folgate x 200!) ... Some of them will be the same as modern districts, some very different. At what 'time' would they be, there were major reorganisations of the parishes in at least 1835, and 1865, possibly more. In some cases, articles on ecclesiastic organisation exist like
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easy enough too. Grade II* pics, fair enough, but articles not always quite so easy. Grade II - varies, exactly as you say, ten a penny sometimes, but while few of those housing terraces are worth an article of their own, even the early Georgian ones, I feel that Grade II in general is still where some of the gems are hidden.
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political change then it's much more appropriate to do so in relation to a larger area (like Tower Hamlets) than individual locales. In relation to the wards, I think you'll find it surprising to see how many of the wards do in fact fit exactly (or pretty close) to the localities. See Bow for example. Bromely by Bow ditto.
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the Lloyd site would be dodgy! Might look to see if I can find something that is non-CR. It's a grey area, the ephemera the images were produced from are normally out of copyright. It's why there was such a kerfuphal over the Watson, Keppel & Betty image (from the BBC), in the end it was adjudicated fair use. Sorry.
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good faith - and be prepared to look up your own references where you feel they are necessary! Lansbury took a while of searching to find something worth referencing (and I found a couple of things I didn't know about Lansbury on the way), but Whistler and the other artists, seconds to find some of the works online.
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as-we-know-it with the saloon bar is essentially linked to the provision of entertainment in said saloon bar. Beforehand I guess your pub or tavern had a whole different ambience. This equation between saloon bar and music hall must account for the vast numbers of them you mention along Whitechapel/Mile End Road.
3441:, I would be happy to help out with proofreading, but I think I am finished with theatre research. Tim did a big expansion to the Haymarket Theatre. You may wish to fool around with the format, but that theatre has a lot of history, and even more could be written, particularly about the 19th century. The
970:. I'll try and explain things a little. Firstly, I am actually a member of the UK geo project - the guidelines you mention are guidelines only and not part of wikipedia's policy. They are also somewhat outdated amd I'll try to update that asap. Given I'm a member of the project (I predominantly work on the
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Cheers SS. Whenever I go in for one of these AWB sessions, I always dread receiving a message - it usually indicates I messed up! So, it's pleasant to hear from you. I apologise for lighting up your watchlist. I wrote a brief article the other day, began looking at some of the people linked with that
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My apologies for that. I've (a) updated my bot so that it doesn't make that miscorrection any more, and (b) added it to my list of national spelling variants so my bot will warn me if I accidentally try to add it to its corrections rules again and (c) am going to have a look over the last few days of
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Well it's (City) complex, but not impossible. Attractions shortcut, fine while we think about it; the main template's been added, doesn't mean we can't change it later. There's actually lots of room. If we made it too big, I'm sure someone would come along and knock it back. Editing is about choosing
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I note that you've changed the text of the Manor House article from indicating that it straddles the border of Haringey and Hackney to being solely in Hackney. The article states that the area is centred on the tube station - which (I believe has one exit in the LBH, but no part of the tube station).
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Well, we might just have to agree to disagree, but let me try to explain more clearly what I am saying: If a theatre is a crappy little theatre, and the best boast that it can make is that a well-known actor of the early 1900s once passed through there, then yes, I agree that is very notable in that
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Why not? Everything in wiki is open to everyone. Everybody has something to contribute, sometimes we disagree. You seemed to come on more than a little strong there. I noticed you made some edits recently to articles that I had an interest in, that might appear to a casual observer to be destructive.
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to avoid needless duplication, one of the aims of wiki is to achieve coverage and brevity. Someone, somewhere has to store all these bytes. I think Finn tidied up Hackney, as well as creating stubs for all districts in E.London; he also takes masses of photos. It's not such a problem in TH, but other
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I want to get on and develop the TH articles beyond the history sections. That will involve pushing the history sections down as the convention is for the geography and administration to come first - and I'm proposing that convention should be followed - mainly because people first need to know what
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The unrefenced notice on the Spitalfields article has already been taken down by the objector so nothing I can do about that. Are any others causing problems so far as you are aware? I wonder whether unpleasant personal attacks on my character now seen in a number of places will also be taken down?
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I apologise if recent actions came across as noisy - but the reality is that people have different windows to operate in - mine tend to come in chunks so I try to get quite a bit done when I can. Others do their bit day after day. I think the give and take which you refer to involves being tolerant
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Very sorry about that. I had to go back over them all again and add a reference. I can't think why I didn't add the references when I made the entries. Maybe I'm having a bad day! Could you answer a question for me? Is the Court Theatre the same as the Royal Court in Sloane Square? If so, when did it
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From what I've read there was a lot of indigenous resentment against the Jews in the East End (which fear Mosley played upon) - which even led to anti-Semitic riots during WW2. This sort of stuff however usually gets air-brushed from history and nobody can quite remember it afterwards...(For instance
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to do was do better justice to some of the theatre articles! Now we have to rewrite the history of the British theatre ... I don't think the external links are that good on the subject. They have a tendency to fudge the issue. You're both right, it's not a coherent narrative, and in fact the articles
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Thanks for your good work on the Gaiety Theatre and other articles. You are right in surmising that my understanding of London geography, then and now, is tenuous, so feel free to spruce these up. I have been trying to write about London theatres that were famous for hosting G&S works (Royalty,
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Wooooowh! Never, never use parishes in the sense of Finsbury - it's the Vestry that has the civil authority, ecclesiastical authority only is vested in the parish! It's the vestry what does the business, because it's what they call an elected body (in London since 1835) - as opposed to the appointees
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Also, you've been editing Haringay and the boro' page - no argument with that, some of it is a definite improvement and I'm glad to see someone having a go at it. I would urge you to look at other writings on settlements in London to a). try to keep to much the same style, b}. endeavour to reference
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Probably; but needs a wiki-article first, seats 190 ... Some of these things come and go faster than we can change them, but then some turn into the next Almeida theatre. Not obvious from their website who's behind them, if it's publicly funded I think it could quickly go to the wall - remembering a
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I don't think we need to cut it down too much. But I agree that the mere fact that a notable actor appeared in a ho-hum play does not make that play notable - it is only one factor. The play must either catch on with the public and have a good run, with the critics and be nominated for "Best Play"
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OK, Thanks. Do you think that this list of productions is too long? Unless there is some reason why a production was particularly notable, I don't see why we are listing it. The fact that Hiller or Daniell appeared in it, I think, does not make it notable unless it either had a rather substantial
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I'd appreciate any suggestion you may have as to how I go about doing this. I was minded to state what I was doing on the talk page (as I've already done in a number of pages by posting the standard for writing about settlements) and then start to pull existing material into the standard categories
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Oh, I can live with that, adds to the local colour - just getting uppity about Hackney Central's claim 8^). Personally, I would like to see all Grade I listed buildings with - at least a picture - if not an article. Equal coverage on Grade II*, and significant groups of Grade II (individuals are ten
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Thanks for that clarification, it goes some way to explaining my confusion. The burlesque page is too caught up in the modern form, so doesn't really go into historic detail. The main problem in the UK was the patent theatre act, this denied 'spoken performance' (except in very limited forms) beyond
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I think it was actually located on the Aldwych, and they built the new Indian High commission on it (I only ever looked at it because of the Lupinos!) ... I thought the article was a bit US-PoV (Burlesque has never been a UK speciality). Anyway, give the gentleman his head, and have a look when he's
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article. He seems to have adopted a policy of serially reverting all my edits and then personally abusing me in the Talk page. I think he (denoted merely by a number) has been unthinkingly reverting new edits there for years. For instance he has just blanked out an entire section on the 'Whitechapel
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It's a kinda good idea, Sam; but again one of those rods to beat yourself with. There are what, 32 London boroughs, 80-odd metropolitan, 200-odd vestries and odd things. I got caught out in Finsbury - most of it's constituents weren't even vestries; and there's the Holborn Board of Works to consider
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Hi Colin. I only contributed the section about surviving music halls; buildings being a particular interest of mine; and the article being particularly short in letting people know what was being talked about. The rest of the article was more than a little lengthy, and well to put it frankly, didn't
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Hi! Just been browsing through some pretty dreadful wikipedia articles on the East End. There's a particularly bad one on the Ratcliffe Highway Murders which somehow manages to omit the names of both the victims and the murderer and the fact that the latter was buried at the cross-roads with a stake
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article, but it is just an (inaccurate) list, and anyway 'fiction' is not synonymous with 'literature'. A better article would mention the activities and locales of the London literati and such people as Shakespeare, Pepys, Johnson, Keats and Betjeman whose contribution to London literature was not
4388:; and a text section added covering the periods that summarises important events in the theatre - like the ceiling coming down, or the management changing. Certainly, in more recent years, the theatre has been a receiving house, so productions change regularly, so it becomes a very long list indeed!
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Re the history bit - it struck me that one option might be to create an 'overview history article' for Tower Hamlets. It could take the best bits of what exists in different areas and turn it into something that stands as an article in its own right. That way, if it met all the criteria, you have
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I remember reading when I first joined editing that you should never ever participate in Knowledge if you don't want to see another member making bold changes to your area of expertise. I've been feeling like I've been in the midst of a group of people who had forgotten about that bit, who've been
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My experience from elsewhere has been that if you show people what can be done and get the basic structure in place then ordinary people (ie not the 'usual suspects') can actually start contributing - sort of the reverse of what you were suggesting before. What is really really difficult for a lot
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I don't see any particular need for speed so much as being clear about what sort of quality standard we're aiming for - and what it takes to get it. We can leave them at 'stub' or 'start' quality level - but I think that ought to be a conscious decision rather than an unconscious one. Personally -
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A sunny and reasonably productive day, but the Theatre and Curtain heritage plaques seem to have disappeared - and I looked in Curtain Road and Holywell Place. Drove past Gainsborough, didn't seem to have a plaque any more. Hit Britannia plaque (finally, it's on a modern block of flats - suddenly),
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I lived on the MER and walked to work on the WCR; at 8:30am, you used to have to step over the drunks ... The area now has 'patisseries' and 'gastropubs' ... hard to believe. Cycling I once did a triple twisting somersault, over a car, by Barclays bank. Spotted the landing on the bonnet, wrapped it
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I stole wholesale (what pay retail!) from the theatre website, which is a good article - it's referenced. It's largely précis, so there may be nuggets that I didn't discover. It needs your own estimable arts of identifying performance and probably a pass, or two, to clean up my desperate prose. We
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just now. I'm not sure who owned the theatre after Rupert died. It may be that the Savoy group owned it. Bridget was a major shareholder, but not the sole owner of that group. By the 1960's, Bridget had given the opera company to a trust that she ran for a time (the company closed in 1982), but
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Images on PeoplePlay are from the theatre museum, put on the internet at public expense to be shared for educational purposes. So, I don't have a problem with sticking them up. Arthur Lloyd site is actually a private collection, and they retain the copyright in respect of their images. Loading from
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at Sloan Square was opened in 1871 and closed in 1887. A new theatre with that name was built on a different site in Sloan Square in 1888 and survives today. I'm pretty sure there were no other significant theatres with that name since then. The Theatre Museum in London has a major collection of
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That is nice, and so much easier when there's no confusion. I am wondering about how to generally improve the structure of theatre articles. There's a historical progression for the building; there's a history of management; there's performance and then there's the actors. At the moment, there ends
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I'm pretty certain that the Britannia opened as a theatre, with the intention of putting on plays hence the name: 'The Britannia Theatre'. Although to begin with (before the law was changed in 1843) plays were strictly illegal outside the two licenced ones in Convent Garden, that didn't stop people
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There does seem a sense in which wiki editing is a hiding to nothing, what with all the vandalism and people who make changes without actually reading what they're changing ... if I had a penny for everybody who mistakes Hackney Central for LBH, I'd be a rich man ... Never mind, I do it to increase
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Having made an edit at that page, in dim history, it's on my watchlist, so I do the occasional 'rvt vandalism'. I made some suggestions in that talk area, that I hope will allow it to move forward. I'm not sufficiently up on Ripparian matters to make significant contributions to the debate. I would
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Sorry Col, I wasn't thinking of divorce, just suggesting Sam bear in mind that the two authorities don't necessarily share the same territory; I would agree that there should not be a proliferation of unnecessary articles. I thought Sam was proposing extending the parish articles from their (usual)
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I had a quick look at some of the other metro boros today, and horrified myself at the copy editing that needs to be done to bring them all into some semblance of similarity. I don't think it's a priority for the Wiki London project, as they're still caught up in trying to handle modern day London!
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Your section is very good. I just had time to put in the bare minimum of info about the development of the music hall, mentioning e.g. how 'variety theatre' of the late 19th century subsumed the older music hall tradition. One interesting thing I've realised is how the development of the modern pub
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The Boundary was the world's (?) first council estate, built by a prepubescent LCC, complete with a bandstand in the middle to entertain the masses. All the areas are amorphous - they all were part of larger units - even Hackney was a part of 'Stepney' at one time! They sub-divided like amoeba with
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I rem'd the Commonwealth Institute, it's being allowed to fall down. The idea of having LB in front of all the template names was to keep them together in the NavBoxesofEngland category - we could declare UDI and create a NavBoxesofLondon category - but thats going over the top, perhaps. Otherwise
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I'm not in a competition and I have no personal need to win anything at all. I'm picky about procedure - generally working on the principle that if it exists it does so for a reason and that's generally good enough for me - unless it's causing problems. I guess we can agree that sometimes people
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that tends to characterise a lot of the articles. I would like to see editing - i.e. an active choice about what makes an area special, rather than check listing. Most of these (modern) places are just dormitories, they have no industry, its pretty sad when the local landmark is a small stone ...
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to! Mostly I've concentrated on writing well referenced history sections to locations that I thought deserved it, that tends to be more selective than blatting an entire area - although with three others, we recently did a number on London theatre - and earned two DYK and that barnthing - whatever
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Thumb right from Open House. I think (see discussions elsewhere), I'm going to concentrate on Listed Buildings (referenced, uncontroversial), and hopefully add an LB section to each district (assuming that our beloved London districts don't end up as AfDs under some new and totally bizarre schema
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Well done, kudos, though I will not dwell on the specific reason. And also, thanks for reinforcing my conviction that every district needs a Listed Buildings section - appropriately referenced, of course, which is part of the fun*. And these can, of course, migrate selectively upwards to borough**
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is a good resource on theatre history, but a quick look doesn't show any listing for the Royal Court/Court Theatre. If you can't immediately see the way something works, it's probably best to leave it and come back to it later when you are sure. Searches tend to be of no help, as they bring up too
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is another pretty bad wikipedia entry. There is a lot about the highly specialised usage of the term in opera and just a tiny bit about the more usual usage concerning the blood and thunder Victorian melodramas. And just to add that the term 'melodrama' was imported from Germany to England without
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should be listed in reverse chronological order, I don't expect you (or me) to change it, but it's worth thinking about for the future - the logic is that most recent awards/performance are more highly relevant. I don't know about you, but I find that distinctly counter-intuitive. Again, well done
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Thanks for your message Kb. As for me I'm keeping a low profile at the moment, though I did do a bit of 'original research' last week in darkest Hackney, East London at the site of the Sebright Music Hall: gone, but there is a pub opposite called 'The Sebright Arms', which has a notice advertising
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All the more reason to show your maturity by allowing things to die down for a few days, then restart the discussion in the talk pages. Gather your reasons for why the material should be included and avoid being drawn into arguing with anon. Its a distraction and, I suspect, the game anon wants to
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article, which I have added stuff to (though didn't create). To my mind there is a conceptual distinction to be made between the fictional character 'Count Dracula' and the novel 'Dracula'. What do you think? By the way, all the other major characters in the novel have their own seperate articles:
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Sorry for delay in replying, and brevity - up to ears in sharp snappy things. Should be great, as long as it's not too confusing having an ecclesiastic body and a civil authority with the same name on the same page. At that time, there was much confusion, as they were still absorbing liberties and
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Hello again Kb. Just to say that there is a new series starting Tuesday on Channel 5 on Jack the Ripper which you might be interested in. I doubt that they will turn up any new evidence but its always fun to see 'the usual suspects' (the Masons, the Duke of Clarence, Sickert, Patricia Cornwall) do
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Your comment on the Miidlesex page suggests that you deleted harringay because it was not a historic parish. You are right in that it was never a parish. But you are wrong because hundreds were never based on parishes. They predated them. See the Wiki page on "hundred" for easy reference on this.
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a proper entry of its own - it deserves it (especially on a wiki projects - after all it was "Theatre by the people for the people". I've just made a few edits to it. I've got an amount of info on this subject. Besides Colin Chambers' invalueable book I've got various theatre programmes and other
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Looking at a ward map of Hackney (Haringey's website appears to be down); I thought the boundary was Green Lanes, it's actually 7SR (I forgot Brownswood). The boundary is the bottom of the steep hill following Eade Road. The park and all but one exit of the tube lie in Haringey though ... I might
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IMO, as a non-notable actor, I'd say the list is too long. Premières are notable, for important plays, directors and actors. A good/featured article will achieve coverage of the subject, but it would also be edited for brevity - providing the reader with where to get that complete information. I
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Someone added about half a dozen mentions of Wendy Hiller to the Haymarket Theatre article. Please take a look and see if you think they are all notable appearances. I'll rely on your excellent judgment and will support your decision to either leave them in or cut one or more repetitions. Best
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Perhaps you could start by taking down notices where you have met opposition, and think about meeting people half-way. Ultimately, it's not about winning, it's about improving articles - they improve through genuine consultation, not by wasting time on long procedural arguments. Above all, assume
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of ordinary people with something to offer is that there is no 'template' set up where they can see where their bit of knowledge fits in. They then stick it in the wrong place - get treated as an intruder by people who have been around for a bit, have their stuff deleted and never ever come back.
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Yeah, I know, stuck on work stuff for now. Agree with all the significant aims above, though. Agreed, every Grade I at least should have a pic (actually I have some for St Matthias N16, I guess I don't like the building much, sigh, I'll add one). And them being Grade Is, I suppose articles may be
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Just been to the library today and forgot to pick up anything on music halls. Doh! Just to reiterate that I'm no great expert on the subject, just that in the Kingdom of the Blind Wikipedians the One-Eyed Man is often King, especially when it comes to general, synthetic or theoretical articles or
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Thanks! I went back in to the Adelphi Theatre article and added a link backing up some of your info and couple headings and put the info in more chronological order. The article is looking much better, but it could use a few more references/links if you have any. Thanks, and best regards! --
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Since the original premises sold food and drink in the auditorium, had tables, had standing room round the side and galleries above. I'd say it was a music hall of the saloon style! Now, after the introduction of the theatre act, it rebuilt itself pretty quickly - but still appears to have served
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sorry, I capitalised Vestry (cap), and used the word authority (non-cap) in the normal sense, of well authority, if it were related to the poor law responsibilities, I would probably have used the word 'board', but Vestry (eh) authority was more the lay responsibilities of the vestry - if you can
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KB, if you check original sources, you will find that Harringay and Hornsey were used interchangeably. In referring to the manor, the normal appelation was Harringay or Harringhay. The Hornsey version came later, Can you not live with this being represented on the Hundreds page? It is verifiable
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I'm off shortly to the West End, but will have lunch with an old friend, who has genuine talent, but scrapes a living as a professional musician (with no pension plan! - so I'm glad I didn't go that way). I probably won't get around to looking at those articles today (or indeed finishing the AWB
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I'd say you're both right - but it's a question of balance. It may be that what the theatre ends up with will be too thin for David, and too rich for Ssilvers. I saw what that other fella did to the Victoria Palace - and it doesn't need to go like that (list of plays/musicals, with no details of
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The political information can often cause people to be much more prickly than you've seen so far! (BTW: I wouldn't expect comments to be withdrawn, if you listen to people and respect their boundaries, you might eventually get an apology). With the political stuff people often have a particular
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things over on the talk pages, and I mean discuss, listen too ... people would accept what benefits you bring, and also make improvements to the way in which you present your information. As always, I will help where I can, I will challenge where I feel it necessary and concede defeat gracefully
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Hello. I just wanted to clarify that Gielgud was not the only theatre called "Globe", so I thought that pointing to the disambig page would give people some useful info. BTW, I plan to put up an article for the slightly earlier "Globe Theatre" that was, along with the Opera Comique, one of the
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I did look to the site, and they list the awards as the 2007 Orange British Academy Film Awards. I also assumed because both the Golden Globes and Oscars, although dealing with films that opened in 2006, were listed under 2007, the BAFTA should also be listed under 2007 since that is when Helen
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The New Standard was a strange place, it was a music hall, but aimed to provide a 'higher class' of entertainment. It would provide normal music hall entertainments, until people like the Royal Ballet had finished their normal performances, and then came down to do an extra late 'gig' at the New
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Well, I WAS thinking that the reality of London is actually to a certain extent constructed out of fantasy and myth. For instance the East End is a place where certain transgressive fantasies concerning opium dens, sailors and loose women etc (as seen in Dorian Grey and Jeckyll and Hyde and the
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Well done. I was trying to avoid using the nav template, and just leave these boxes floating in template space, reasonably easy to get to, but safe from vandals. It adds the v/d/e marker, but I guess it can't be avoided. (I'm having a bad day with vandals ...). Maybe I'll go back and change the
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to the Manor House Junction. It then proceeds along the west side of Green Lanes to a point just past the Hermitage Road junction where Green Lanes "submerges" totally into Haringey. This would mean that the situation is actully the reverse of what you state (3/4 lies in Hackney, and 1/4 within
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Noted, but I still think important actors who trod their boards enhances the theatre. It is important for us to keep in mind that encyclopaedias contain articles that the general reader can comprehend in several respects. They're not written for specialists or affectionados. In the case of many
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I don't know anything about an informal policy - if it's something people need to adhere to then it really does need to be a bit more obvious and also up for comment by people with alternative experiences (like me). I'm all for avoiding needless duplication but tell me what the problem is with
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Rigid adherence to NPOV and objectivity goes a long way with the political sections. Straight facts, links to relevant websites and no superfluous commentary seems to me to be pretty unobjectionable. Start including comments and people start answering back. If people want to make comments on
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I'll revisit it when I have more time. One of the problems with active theatres is that there are too many contemporary references on a search to tease out the more interesting stuff. Usually you can dig by looking at peripheral terms, like the architects and managers. I did read somewhere that
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All these were in existence before the rise of the Music Hall proper (in the 1850's) and all of them (illegally at first!) staged plays. The classic book about such East-End Theatres is 'East End Entertainment' by A.E. Wilson, which lists a whole lot more theatres in the East End which I cannot
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there is already an article devoted to the civil and ecclesiastical parish of said district as run by aforesaid Vestry + the local vicar respectively. Therefore I think it would be inadvisable to divorce the civil parish authority (the Vestry) from the civil parish itself and give it a seperate
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Hi there; you just inserted a comment into an anon-user's page telling him that he was blocked. You are, I believe, not an admin; if I am wrong here tell me, and I will go and hide. Only an admin can impose a block, and to tell an editor that he is blocked when he is not is regarded as serious
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would view it, because TV and film have made many who started out on the stage famous. I also think it gives the theatre a certain amount of distinction having had such people tread their boards. Lets face it, there must be thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of actors and actresses who are not
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For schools, I really think just a title on locale pages, with a link to the boro' article. It is needless duplication, and in London schools are run by the boroughs and allocated by an arcane system that no-one has ever got to grips with - some aspects are still dictated by ILEA, and that was
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There has been a continuing drive to improve the quality of articles in London, much of it has been appalling in the past. Most areas were stubs, and if you look at west London, or the 'burbs, you will find that situation hardly improved. We've also been trying to adapt a schemata, to give the
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Nice photo. I blagged my way into see the memorial at St Leonards courtesy of the vicar about a year ago. Other times however the staff get a bit shirty, unless you are a bone fide down-and-out trying to get into the hostel there... Did you notice the stocks and whipping post in the porch? The
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Sorry, I only split the article; previously the modern and historic playhouses were confounded on the one page. I was trying to create a nav-box for London theatres, and most were in an appalling state, and I tried to correct some glaring anomalies as I went along. This was one of them, so the
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Mosley really didn't have a lot to do with the East End. He and his supporters were parachuted into an area where they thought the right social conditions existed to commence the disorder that his particular revolution required. A bit like the BNP marching through Deptford and Lewisham, in the
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Just to inform you that Stephen Dorril's damning new bio of Oswold Mosley: 'Blackshirt' has just been published in paperback (£9.99 from Penguin). Of interest to the study of East-End Fascism of the 'Knees up Eva Braun' variety: as well as the Cable Street fracas, apparantly Mosley stood as a
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My new section on the Whitechapel Murders has now been reverted and re-reverted about 4 times in 4 days accompanied by a chorus of vitriolic personal abuse against me in the Talk Page. I am seriously wondering whether it is worth fighting with these bullies. I also wonder whether 'Anon' is the
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in some of the historical entries I've done against districts in Hackney to link into the parishes. I'll think about that one, I don't think it's a good idea to bury too much history at that level, rather keep the parish/vestry entries for organisational, population and contemporary politics.
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District Board from 1855. The District Board pages would refer to each constituent Vestry. The sort of information to be included: population and area (I have got that), description of the area (say from the Charles Booth or Henry Mayhew), its representatives on the Metropolitan Board, and its
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I added some info. Feel free to trim out anything you think is unnecessary. I think the article could be even clearer that the Unity theatre was presenting works that were quite different from the mainstream works of the day, that only the Unity theatre did this, and how the movement spread
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Not a problem, sorry it carries on. I'm not sure how you bring these things to a moderator's attention, or even if that's worthwhile. I've found the ripper page interesting, and also your changes. As I say, collaboration invariably improves things, dogmatism isn't particularly useful. I don't
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status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually
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and I had just repaired another page he/she had also been vandalising (following the contributions tag). I had no where else to go with the warnings, and was escalating beyond my meagre powers. Having seen MerC's page, I now think I understand the proper process to follow. Apologies, again.
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The key to wiki is dragging people in, to share the work, and inform your own product. You've been a bit noisy, and certainly some regular contributors have moved on - they might be busy in WP:reallife, but equally, they could be tired of being hectored and seeing their precious bytes being
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Thanks for your support Kb. As you suggest these things are not good for ones blood pressure. However I think the problem with 'Anon' is that his bullying tactics are a tried and tested way he has been using for ages to scare off other editors from the Ripper page. He is most definately not
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I'm curious, why would you choose to get involved in a discussion I'm having with another editor? Since I would never consider responding to a note left on someone else's discussion page that had nothing to do with me, I don't understand what possessed you to reply to a message I left for
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on the Bromly page? It includes references to Bow as well as Bromly by Bow and is therefore relevant (notwithstanding there's a whole debate which probably needs to continue about how one comments on an area which used to be larger than the two modern day wards)? I didn't understand the
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I would put specific ward information on a separate page, as it's been done at Stokie, which I ref'd before. That decouples the political map from the real map, and for reasons I've stated before, the political map is regularly redrawn. Categorise them, I think the form is something like
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often gets ignored, mainly because it gathers together a few talented people for a while, who then drift off to earn money. Before Edward Bond, Steven Berkoff and the like were premièring at the National they premièred all their work at the Half Moon Theatre in Stepney - now a major
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The track below is now going to be used to carry the Crossrail spoil out of central London, a conveyor belt, rattling away 24 hours a day for three years, past the backs of those now expensive, Spitalfields/Brick Lane houses. I guess once it's been used for that, you'll see extensive
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No need to burden yourself on my account Kb.....but....Just a bit bothered about 'The Jago' (aka 'The Boundary Estate'). I guess, if it is not indeed an entity in itself, it must be in Bethnal Green, certainly over the Shoreditch boundary. 'Bethnal Green' seems such an amorphous area
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However, I feel a comment is in order here: you might like to consider being less sarcastic in matters like this in future. I don't see how it can achieve anything other than to get people's backs up, and make them less inclined to listen to your (entirely legitimate in this case)
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Most recent East End fascism has been of the envy variety, where the white community felt that everything was being done for BME, and nothing for them. There's now the rise in the BME community of resentment towards new immigrants from Eastern Europe. Basically, you can never win.
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and where is being discussed. I wonder whether if places have a very substantial history section then maybe that history should enjoy a page and article all to itself and be linked to the main article which covers all the rest of the standard contents of an article about a place?
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I know, not least because the awards ceremonies are held in the succeeding year. I think the main principle should be consistency between the various wiki pages. I think everyone's been doing it in good faith, but I really can't bear to see it yo-yo'ing back and forth. Page 25 of
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Globe goes up, it can just point to that! If you want to mention it for the moment, use one of those ref things to put in a footnote. The whole of London theatre, old and new needed a good shake up. By starting to make the changes, it's drawing more people in - so, that's a good
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much about the modern productions (they pay people to do that for them); the significance of the modern theatre obscures its origins. The Royal epithet is normally associated with patent theatres, but after about 1880, it occurs when one of the royals adopts a favourite theatre.
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Standard. I think it's fair to use it here, as many of the stars listed performed there, and I found an image of the Canterbury to put in the article further up! It also hosted touring performances of straight theatre ... Point taken, if I found something better, I'd replace it.
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Anyway, welcome to London, now if you exit the (demolished) theatre through the main door, and head down the Strand for about 500m, you will find the Savoy on your right ... there you can still (sometimes) hear G&S (although it's next production is Porgy & Bess) ... --
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People are naturally prickly, particularly me ... Some changes you've made I do regard as 'damage'; but one of the strengths of wikis is that they do repair themselves over time - long after you, I and everyone else around here have passed on to other interests. I think if you
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Hello! Blue links exist so that the reader can click on them to get additional info about a subject if he/she desires. To describe what each of the past productions at this or any venue was is to provide unnecessary data that clutters the article. If you click on the link for
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Hard to believe that I have walked up and down Whitechapel High Street several hundred times without realizing where I was...But then again ask the average London resident about any directions and they won't have a clue: 'Dunno guv I'm from Tajikistan' being the usual reply.
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I'd like to give him a chance to reply first - hopefully agree, it's not a hanging. Editing is a balancing process, but I do think he errs on the side of brevity and some of his edits have been disruptive. He is so prolific that his changes affect a wide swathe of articles.
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Thanks for the reference Kb. I'm intrigued that there was a music hall in Leman Street (which still hosts dancing girls at a certain venue...Inspector Abberline's (of Ripper fame) police station is there also (very handy for the opium dens of Limehouse - but I digress...)).
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Of the area surrounding the crossroads, I believe 3/4 lies in Haringey, and 1/4 within LBH. I note the tube station has also mysteriously moved to Hackney - despite Hackney being able to proudly boast that it is the one borough north of the river not to have a tube station.
3791:. Now this place is similar to one of the areas within Tower Hamlets so this maybe conveys to you a bit better why I'm banging on about needing to bring articles up to standard. Or to put it another way, somebody had a go at dinning it into me and I'm now evangelising!
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takes a look and makes comments. While I've been through GA on East End, I'm not sure I feel totally competent to review. I don't see a reason why they shouldn't pass - at the moment. I'd like to submit some more articles to the process before doing a review on my own.
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that is. While we were doing that, Drury Lane got FA, but I only tinkered with that, so again a collaboration. The theatre drive worked very well, collaborators came forward and worked on their interests within a subject. Many theatres have been rescued from stubbiness.
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I'm glad you chose to think about the ammendments - though be mindful not to hold the page to randsom, so to speak; it is considered good practice, as well as good manners to allow others to contribute to, and revamp sections and articles. I would urge a few additional
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I'll have a think about your suggestions - but it would make London completely out of step with the rest of the country and the Knowledge guideline. Personally I look at it from the point of view of what would Joe Public want to see there if they were to look up their
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article would be one place to look, since it has a lot of info and footnotes. It has been a pleasure working with you on these articles, and I think we and the others have collectively made a tremendous amount of progress in a relatively short time. Best regards, --
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There are already some pages in existence in wikipedia on the civil parishes of London: run by the Vestry authorities. There is certainly one for Shoreditch. Bearing in mind that technically it (and other authorities) weren't in London at all: but rather in Middlesex.
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leaves a lot to be desired. You'd never guess from this page that the Strand was the centre of Victorian nightlife in all meanings of that term: from theatre to 'ladies of the night' (vide the dubious Walter's infamous 'Secret Life' available from any Soho bookshop).
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novels of Sax Rohmer for instance) are realized. Or when the London smog descended as of yore one could imagine all kinds of mysterious things (Idea for a film: 'THE SMOG'). I'm sort of thinking aloud here...Let's just test a link and see if it turns red or black:
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article. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks for all the great work! As to theatres in general, that's not my focus, so I think I'm pretty much done with what I can do on these articles. I'm more interested in the musicals that played there. Best regards, --
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I just tinkered with it a little, in a copyedit. It's beginning to look more like a respectable article, than a stub! Be good to get a few more images (say interior), but looking through my normal sources, I've not seen anything that can be legitimately nicked.
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cheers col, doesn't matter unless I look at it again ... just something to bear in mind when editing, not everyone has same screen resolution/settings. God knows what a 'screen talker' would make of it; don't think wiki has ever heard of disability guidelines.
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though....however I'm not a born and bred East-Ender, so what do I know...I was also looking unsuccesfully for a reference to the 'London Burkers' (Bishop and Head) who conducted their body-snatching activities in this area (see 'The Italian Boy' by Sarah Wise)
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Thanks for reviewing. My sense is that they're GA. Of course, I would value any specific improvements you can suggest. I think, if I understand the process, that you can promote them to GA now, since you did not edit them. Oh, BTW, got some new info in
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of the guideline is applicable to these places. Some of it certainly is, others less so. It's a guideline, not a policy. I would regard improvement as a continuing aspiration. I remember when I started editing on wiki, Whitechapel was a standard to which
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I'd like to see each article being written in clear unambiguous English that gets the reader interested and makes them want to find out more by clicking those wiki and external links. That's what I want, your mileage may differ, but I can live with that.
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I've been adding Cat:Neighbourhoods; unfortunately I did not realise you were also working on those pages, so some LB Hounslows have been added twice ... the districts also need a bit of a cleanup (so I'm not wasting my time) 8^). The title is known as
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No I have every agreement, merely urge you to identify where you're going with it. There are multiple directions - some could even be undertaken at the same time. I think it's a useful article because it's under-represented, hell, it's even important!
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OK, had a quick shufty. Not sure to limit this to Victorian era. The patent theatres were just off it, and also a lot of historic theatres. Fiddled with the page, rather than making any substantive changes before I've slept on it. Somewhere, there's a
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It's always easier to aim if you know what you're aiming at. I don't know whether you've ever looked at any other articles about places from elsewhere in the UK but this is the one that was quoted to me when I first started as being a "good article"
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Nice article! I've been tweaking the refs and was wondering if you could specify which volume was used from Bentley? I strongly suspect it's vol. 6 (Theaters), but I'd like confirmation. Page numbers would rock my socks, but I won't be pushing it ;-)
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Yes, that's quite a nice template KB. I prefer the blocky templates to those which trail endlessly down half the right side of the page - often ruining and ripping holes in the original carefully composed format of said page...(that's the aesthete in
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actors and actresses who were in films, people have forgotten that they were firstly (and some would argue foremost) stage performers. Absolute brevity (built, opened, had a few musicals, closed) in the articles on theatres makes them fairly boring.
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I have to get invoices out, identify at least two competing software products that meet some specialist requirements (public authority procurement), and write a legal document about a cello (don't ask) ... so, don't expect to hear too much til late.
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music-hall acts every Friday....which it seems is an old notice giving out-of-date information...As a student of industrial archaeology and urban dereliction I also found fascinating the railway journey from Liverpool St to Cambridge Heath Road...
3951:. That page can then link to individual councillors profiles (external websites). The locales can then reference which wards cover them, without trying to bend the locales to fit the political map. Which seems to change more often than my socks.
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Cheers, I checked most of them, and am currently going through checking the contents. Naturally, West End first ... I'll get to it, and correct. As I go through, I'm finding a lot of errors that require correction, so it's quite time consuming.
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Gaiety, Opera Comique, Savoy, Sadlers Wells), but it is difficult without having your background, so I appreciate all the help. I've pretty much done what I can, so if you can improve them further, by all means do. I am a big G&S fan (see
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I just try to be thorough when doing the templates and so that means looking at a multimap er... map as well as the Whatlinkshere and include all the places in thr borough that i can. Why would you say some articles get mid and others get low?
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really good work, another list its difficult to cut. Have you rolled it out? I use AWB it makes it a tad easier. It's also a good time to do a quick review of each page and ensure they roughly follow a format, and there are no glaring errors.
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Hi, good to have more information about the author and that, of course confirms the copyright status. However, the image still needs a source - i.e. where the digital image came from - a scan from a book, a website etc. Sorry to be a pain.
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Thanks for having a go at the history section- those histories are public domain due to their age, I don't suggest we should copy the whole thing though as they're vast! Also we need to find other sources for 1800-present day, Regards
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As for referencing see Tyrenius's comment on Spitalfields. Plus why doesn't friend Colin just reference the books like everybody else does? It doesn't have to be a website. I really am genuinely mystified about what all the fuss is
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But on the whole it's a project to get one's teeth around, a noble aim (while EH may have partly achieved it, their database really sucks). As you say, indeed, Islington is supposed to be my ongoing thing too - but I have been rudely
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and it is not clear which of the many articles that link to the latter really played at the former. I am afraid that I have confused the issue for several months. Can you do anything to comb out this mess? Thanks for any help! --
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I don't think I'm arguing for complete brevity. As you say, that can be telegraphic. It's a part of the editing process to decide on notability. Let it stew for a while and see how you feel about it, coming to it fresh - as it were.
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prominent cast). There are aspects of that list that make me go - I didn't know that. That's worthwhile, but equally editing is about cutting back to what's important - and as with any performance, leave the audience wanting more!
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begun putting copyright notices on their maps (which is a bugger, 'cos they're generally good!). I think the more recent history can actually be dealt with through the 'objects' that remain - as you say, there's a lot of of them.
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tower, at Limehouse Basin. It was used to power the locks, it might pre-date the other - it's still there, but used as a sales office for the project - I think. You can go up the top if you say you're buying a riverside appt.
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circuit (owners of the Palace chain); but this conflicts with the current information about its fate between 1900 and 1913 (dark). It all needs much more investigation. I will give you that many of the playbills I've seen say
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There's no defined format (so far), just general consistency, try to sort out redlinks, rem advertising, that sort of thing. Maybe K & C won't be so bad. The 'burbs all need serious TLC. Anyway, time for my cocoa ...
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Yes, I agree that all London articles could do with improvement, I don't think it particularly useful to conflate location with postcode, or to blur the boundaries of these informal districts more than they are already.
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Always dangerous to ask me what I think ... I'll take a little mosey along. Off hand, I think you're right in that there is now a distinct 'legend of Dracula' in fiction which is quite independent of the original novel.
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if you care to. IMO, we don't need everyone to say "play nice", we need someone to really look at the problem and see the extent and seriousness of it. It is a systematic destruction of information on Knowledge. --
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What format would that be? I suppose when you say rolled it out, you mean placed it on the appropriate pages. No i haven't yet. Shame about the Commonwealth. I've been there a while ago and thought it was interesting.
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necessarily in the form of pulp fiction...Or maybe the emphasis should be on how London itself has been constructed through literature: Dickensian London, Holmsian London, Sax Rohmer's East End, 'Metroland', etc etc.
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track bed underneath. Used to run into Bishopsgate goods yard, and you could walk into there from holes in the fence around Brick Lane. The other way, you could get to Poplar goods yard on the Isle of Dogs. All gone
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think of a better term, then please do ... The problem is that in this field, authority is also a term relating to 'legal bodies'. My only excuse, my brain was overheated from converting between acres and km^2 ....
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Oh - the Open House Day list is very selective. But it could be argued that if a structure is on Open House it must be notable, so maybe it is worth nominating buildings for their own articles simply on that basis
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If you scanned it, just put that! Yes, I know I'm being a pedant - but I've come to think an image without a source is like a fact without a reference - no way of checking it out. Thanks for being understanding.
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I know the border goes through there, and the junctions are quite complex (in fact, it's probably more true to say that Manor House is covered by tarmac!), but I think between us, we can work out what's going on
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ROFL-bomp ... I seriously doubt it, then it again, it's no worse than the historic county debate ... I'm interested in history, but even I don't go for them. Which silly uniform turned up at the council's AGM.
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play. There's a link to a collection of user space templates on my user page that can be used in extremis, but as I say let it lie. People play political games on wiki, and that somehow makes me depressed ...
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Somewhere, can't remember, I made the suggestion (ah, it was about British history), that we should write something brief on what contemporary life was like for ordinary people, rather than restricting it to
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Forgot to say, pulling together those two threads, that the Limehouse Tower was one of the places I in fact went on the last open day, so I have a couple of interior pix (not great but illustrative) too. See
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leapt from, Joan Littlewood is my personal heroine, in that she first got me involved in the theatre by inviting a young lad to climb amongst the lights (literally, I was 40 before I stood in front of them).
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City is divided into wards, which equates to districts. There are templates for wards and gates of the city - not sure how useful, or whether they could be more usefully combined. It doesn't hurt to mull it
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Hi Kb. I'm sorry if the picture is obscuring the stats on your computer monitor. You can move it again if you like: I didn't realize that wikipedia pages look different when viewed on different machines....
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stuff the Yanks know nothing about (i.e. English culture and the English sensibility). People here are great on detail but often fall down badly when trying to make sense of things in a wider perspective.
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I think I'm going to move history - since its essentially administrative and try to find something historical to say about Ilford - although with only 60 dwellings there in 1650, that might be difficult.
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shows it changed hands with the hotel. No date - not even in the source code - that must be the sale prior to 2004, no same story in Irish Examiner 13/10/2005. The hotel was sold again in 2007, to Prince
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Oddly now, i decided to add a few and stopped at Hanoworth. I however did not add the neighbourhoods cat. The template is appearing twice on the pages and finally the title of this discussion is a typo.
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Hope you get a good night's sleep after the journey (I remember it well - Quarry House by any chance?) I've got a meeting tomorrow and probably won't be around much over the weekend. Thanks for talking
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threatened, if not recycled. Collaboration always improves articles, and that's achieved largely by softpedal. Following your interests is good too and there's a time to fact and a time to live with it.
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It is difficult to see why someone would want a collection of one-line stubs. If I could understand it, it might be possible to talk them out of it - but it's not just the stubbornness of one person.
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I was just giving examples. There are so many world famous attractions and landmarks to name. Btw, City of London doesn't seem to count as a borough and i'm not sure it includes any other districts.
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Modes of communication are all a bit flakey here, I seem to have exceeded my ISP's arbitrary bit limit, and they seem to be turning the screw on what can be achieved. So, if I drop out, it's them!
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No arguments with its historical importance, merely does it deserve an entire category separate from Westminster? I think this verges on an obsession, when will you be demanding independence? 8^)
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And hey, I'm like an industrial architecture dude - dunno bout music halls, great as they were, but I haven't written my vital piece about the Limehouse Hydraulic Accumulator Tower yet - with pix.
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Adding an image is no problem, it's finding one that some over enthusiastic guardian of copyright won't take down again 8^). Thanks for the star - its kinda cute, but I'm sure totally undeserved.
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I thought they'd closed the LT museum, maybe that was the theatre one. Tate Britain? National Portrait Gallery ...? Yeah, where is the cut? I'll do a provisional. No Covent Garden, too touristy!
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Hi, its not obsessive at all and I don't see why smaller parts of London can't have their own categories. Note the Marylebone category is not even in the London borough category anyway. Regards
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throughout Britain (anywhere else)? I know there was something like it in the U.S.) The movement was a key artistic and political outlet for working people during WW II.... Best regards, --
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A physical structure that no longer exists in an architectural form; was put together by 'rule of thumb builders' ... Certainly no architects were harmed in the construction of this object ...
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has been previously banned for pulling such tricks. I would suggest patience, you get too caught up in these things, and ultimately, it's not worth it. People do feel a very personal sense of
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A conversation I had last week: Me: 'I heard you had strippers on here?' Club landlord: 'Sir you are mistaken! However we do have a burlesque evening' Me 'ohhhh...so that's just.....etc etc.'
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article so that it at least approximates the known basic facts of the matter and removed stuff which was irrelevent/stupid/false. That is one seriously bad article and needs a lot of work.....
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thought up by three woodsmen and a dog in the wilds of Cheshire). Yeah, I know I'm chicken-shit and I should be edit-arguing, but it takes up so much time - and I'm into content provision...
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vandalism; whether he deserves to be blocked is, as far as this is concerned, irrelevant. Reported vandalism is, of course, correct. But please do not attempt to abrogate sysop functions.--
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As for 'ordinary people', maybe an examination of the lyrics of certain music-hall songs by Marie-Lloyd etc could tell us a lot about working class life in the Big City. Just a thought...
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is nicely stubbi ... The location and ownership may indicate a link to Yiddish theatre, but maybe not. That's an even more untold tale, than that of music halls (it verges on the dreaded
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One of the main points of this exercise is to look at the appalling state of the outer boroughs. There's too much to say about Westminster, not enough landmarks shared out for the rest!
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anybody having any clear understanding of its true etymology, therefore to use the etymology retroactively to explain the characteristics of this genre of plays is to make an error....
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Would you kindly put images of the Royalty theatre and St. James theatre up from one of the images in the Lloyd external links? Thanks for helping the incompetent! Best regards, --
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and use normal font for notes, footnotes and breakouts. That makes your refs section automatically, and the biblio for further reading. It may be wrong, but it's the way I do it! HTH
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Hope you don't me putting this on your talk page. It just suddenly struck me that there was a way of showing you why I've been going on and on and on about standards and quality.
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interested in compromise as in his lights his tactics always work, leaving him the incumbent dog-in-the-manger. Would be nice if people could be nice to one another in this world...
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abolished 20 years ago. There is an aspiration to have an article on every school, and if you really wanted to go to town, that would be a useful area where nobody would bite back.
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film club in Soho, by day it was a strip club. Every now and then, a customer would come to an evening performance, and depart when they found it wasn't up to their expectations.
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Yes. I think these are good. We should have one for every borough. I think Newham and Richmond are the only other two. I started them ages ago and forogt about them (as you do).
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notable for any reason. The alternative suggestion could be a list of productions at a theatre over the years adding "with Lawrence Olivier as Henry V" (or whatever) after it.
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Someday I'll get the hang of this Default sorting thing. Thanks for taking care of it on so many of the articles I catted. What's new in KB world? In mine, someone put the
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Thanks. I agree about the RfC. Can you start the process? I can add my examples/experience to it, and so would SandyGeorgia. The more editors review this, the better. --
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They seem a little more confident than they were in January; can see their way to March 2008, and hope to have a trust in place to pay for the building by then. We'll see. --
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I've just started a template on the City of Westminster. However, i know nothing on the constituencies and i feel the list attractions may be rather large. Can you finish it?
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I just took the style from the Camden area, where they'd already started on this. If there's any kind of decision made on the WPLondon pages, I'd be glad to change it. Cheers
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has a section on notable plays and revivals. I am inclined to think if a famous actor has appeared in a production that makes it notable in itself. At least, that is how the
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Rickety Twins, unless someone beats me to it. That Globe presented a number of important productions in its relatively short career. Also BTW, check out the new article on
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OK, take care. I passed on your query to the user. (Apart from anything else, he probably wants to know about the DYK entry, so thanks for making me go back and look it up).
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and replied there. This account seems to have been set up for a single purpose and I notice almost every edit by that account has been reverted by a wide range of editors.
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Funny enough: The theatre's own website supplied the missing info, except for the purchase by the prince in 2007. Would you kindly add a cite for that? Best regards! --
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As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the
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This needs expansion desperately. Unfortunately, it's 2:30 in the morning, and I have to get up in 4-1/2 hours. Plus, I have to work tomorrow so I don't get fired! --
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I have no 'ownership' of templates, merely that they help people get around things they might not otherwise find - that turns out to be a bit of a curate's egg. Cheers
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I want to thank my mother and father, my agent, of course .... my wife for the long hours we spend on separate computers, and not complaining when her dinner's late ...
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I thought that people there should have the benifit of knowing what they were: there were eleven Whitechapel murders, of which the 'canonical five' are a subset. Help!
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I wouldn't know where to start trimming that list - I keep finding little gems; I'd suggest we worry about it if and when the article goes forward for review.
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Not a problem, in many ways I find that an admirable project. This page has recently turned into an argument for much the same thing, on a geographical level.
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Ah! But we are not talking about a ho-hum play. We are talking about articles on theatres and notables who passed through them giving the establishment cred.
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Where it makes sense, it makes sense. I'm glad you enjoyed the process. Maybe we should start a new category:Champion clogdancers of England .... take care.
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level. I may just take this mission on board and run with it, it'll keep me out of trouble and I can go on a mission to get pix where they're missing too...
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Nyet ne probleme, if they're not copyright they can be used. There's also a postcard of Iolanthe on wikicommons, but I ran out of room. We need more text!
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In the end, I just nicked the idea and based it on something pinched from WWII! But it was a good idea, and in the nature of good ideas, it has been used!
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but came up zilch, so twiddled with some omissions I found on the way. On the other matter, I'll take a look-see, but as always will make my own mind up.
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Please feel free to work on the template that I created. I have had very little time for WP lately, but would be lovely if you could pick up the baton. --
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and elsewhere in Knowledge, many of which are of a repetitive or tedious nature. Contributors like you increase Knowledge's quality. =)
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Not a problem, I can probably match it to several websites, but this scan came from an academic source. I've faced complications with
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Hi, read it, it's put up by his music management company (Jack L Higgins). I admit it contains sales information, but since it's the
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Congratulations Kb. I applaud your devotion to Truth - a good looking woman, and bold with it, as I can see from your user page.
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I remember getting seriously big-headed about residing in SW1. Is that good enough? Or should I send my cranial measurements?
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Murders' which I just added and has threatened to serially revert it till doomsday, just out of a fit of pique I think. As
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state of stubbiness. I already noted that it's a rather big job, with possibly a small readership (mainly us!).
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information about this theatre. I just beefed up the article, but it still needs more work. Best regards, --
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Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, Covent Garden Market, Trafalgar Square, Horse Guards, National Gallery,
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Neither were the link you quote here, this would be appropriate for Bromley-by-Bow, the neighbouring district.
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I think the evidence does point to the lease being with the hotel, but confirming it would be a bugger!
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Most places are start class, since few of them have achieved quality necessary to go any higher!
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The article needs work, and heavy editing to highlight that the spoof was, a well, spoof ...
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see those - whatever you think. You've done yeoman work here. Well done! Best regards, --
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otherwise baffled. If you have a chance could you help me specify? Thanks again.
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Hello again Kb. Although I like your picture of the New Standard Theatre in the
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their jolly music-hall turn as the audience gasp in horror (and despair...)
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I'm not sure what happened to the theatre's ownership. Best regards, --
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Doncha just luv it. Much the same thing happened with the late lamented
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I'm not sure how they reinforce 'assume good faith' and 'be welcoming'.
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But I just found a picture of the Empire Theatre Leicester Square - now
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Supper time! (Actually, got a meeting), will have a look later. Cheers!
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article up for GA review. Feel like commenting on those? Be well, --
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What got your goat, Mr/Ms Anonymous User, some reversion of vandalism?
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I might have to leave it for tomorrow, but will look at it. Cheers.
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very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the
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Music Halls did not do melodramas and they did not do Shakespeare!
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through ancient documents rather than 19th century history books.
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shows what happened to it about 2004 ... ATG management from 2005
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for bibliographic references. If you cite works that collect as a
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Wouldn't it make more sense to call it "Districts of Haringey"?
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No problem. I'm struggling with the idea of creating a category
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SatyrBot and Gender issues in the British theatre and music hall
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Busy week for me, might not get too much time to look at stuff!
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I am emotionally attached to Three Mills - but not that page!!
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sorry, perhaps I'm too academic, and not enough encyclopaedic!
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Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for the nod on the DYK for the
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Hi, may I ask why this template is locked from editing? Thanks
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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the
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of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a
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I had thought, that at least at some stage it did point to the
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In this vein, I have a plan for dealing with these stubs. See
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Am shocked to discover that there is absolutely nothing about
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6526:£2m (public money) Half Moon theatre that is now a large pub!
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Thanks for your La Strada edits. Weigh in on the discussion
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article that we upgraded to FA status. -- Best regards! --
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Yes, that's sound advice Kb. People are so much nicer at our
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Where did you get the information that this is the artist's
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It beats me! The wiki ideal is a sort of practical Maoism (
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edits to see if I made any other miscorrections like that.
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Probably another disgruntled bilious banned sock-puppet...
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I hope that helps a little. Do get back to me if need be.
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joins the River Lee at Old Ford lock (that's a hint too).
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I had thought there was a confusing overlap, but in fact
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food and drink in the auditorium, quite unlike any other
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from stubbiness, and a merge for no apparent reason with
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I've taken a shortcut on the attractions. Is this okay?
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have a go at the text - please correct me if I go wrong.
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talk page, about countenancing the existence of the new
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for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
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I'd just got out of the bath when that was taken ....
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candidate for Shoreditch after the war...(but lost).
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There's a lot of work to be done on London theatres.
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Hello again Kb. I've just been rewriting part of the
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Not a problem. Let me know if I can help in anyway.
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area articles), as an example of my work please see
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http://www.victorianweb.org/mt/theaters/pva234.html
1985:I need to read more, and preferably not from wiki!
941:a bit before your time? I've been trying to rescue
828:Van Helsing, Harker, Mina, Lucy, Renfield etc etc.
783:unrelated, I know, but a stub has been created for
7087:(who rose at 10.30) in the wikipedia. He was from
3379:. Sorry I left this question hanging for so long.
3267:during the 1990s - that was based on the postcode.
1845:. If you would like to experiment, please use the
1486:Incomplete list of 19th century East-End THEATRES:
7012:KB, I was really pleased to see someone had made
6876:. If you believe the media meets the criteria at
4648:Or maybe i will finish it when i have free time.
3247:postal district - which includes Bromley-by-Bow,
2442:Show me where the debate is so I can join in. --
2324:Hello again, Kb. I've added a theatre section to
1294:- added a link to their history on Ratcliffe ...
256:A bit of an article Cromwell knocked about a bit?
3027:tags? I can't figure it out. Also, I expanded
2933:No problem, it's a habit we all need to acquire.
2216:The modern theatre has no mention of G&S at
1152:of these things; no more so, than Ripper-perts!
412:and looks well worth plundering. Best, Andrew (
385:Hi, K (or b, as the case may be). I saw in the
6582:and came here to thank you for your support. --
4236:Would you please weigh in with your opinion at
2033:are sometimes (internally, even) contradictory.
819:Hello again Kb. I'm getting some flak from the
7485:, in order to avoid the queues in Manhattan).
1539:Sarah Lane is licensed by the Lord Chamberlain
1071:(force retirement) replies on other user page
6717:I got caught up trying to find references to
6114:Had to change a few things but i've done it.
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4528:As far as I can make out, the Haringey -: -->
1427:Busy scenes outside an East London music hall
1000:Per the lead section (which is too short per
991:Knowledge:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)
877:A conversation I had at a bar many years ago:
800:I saw it and even added an extra paragraph...
7475:estimated wait to service time was 3.5 hours
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4103:You had your reasons, I assumed good faith.
3698:(A mixed bag, but you blag what you can...)
3564:You were going to give my tortured prose at
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863:By all means, if you would like to edit the
330:Category:Buildings and structures by country
6128:others, some areas are in multiple boro's.
4240:? Thanks for your opinion either way. --
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1617:looks OK to me, Kb. However, its location,
1337:Thanks for bringing it to my attention! --
535:United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
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7105:? A strange way to cut heroin, I know ...
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2452:They were part of changes made to support
1778:and a new disambiguation page was made at
1498:City of London Theatre, Bishopsgate (1834)
135:I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
7481:. (I used to renew my driving licence in
6578:Hey, I performed my first-ever merger at
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3208:What's the problem with the link to the
2149:. Thanks again for your cooperation. â
1495:The Pavilion Theatre, Whitechapel (1828)
880:Me: 'I heard you had strippers on here?'
6890:Knowledge:Image copyright tags#Fair use
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3903:Have a look at the history section on
3834:What I would like to see are articles
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3632:... no point in beating ourselves up!
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4551:Neighbourhood of Haringey and Hackney
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3626:Limehouse Hydraulic Accumulator Tower
3329:article? BTW, I did some editing at
2714:would be a good place to start (from
888:Me: 'ohhhh - so that's just topless?'
448:variety acts and concert performances
6844:Image:Image:1755 Stow Shoreditch.jpg
3670:Well there is a stub already on the
1504:The Britannia Theatre, Hoxton (1840)
1044:Knowledge:Manual of Style (headings)
891:Club landord: 'No sir: full nudity!'
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6888:or one of the other tags listed at
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1264:Done, needs more work ... See also
825:Count Dracula (fictional character)
147:, ask me on my talk page, or place
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6180:Template:LB Kensington and Chelsea
5007:British Optical Association Museum
3782:Standards of articles about places
3376:They were all trade websites, one
3059:International Journal of Blah-Blah
2936:I'd have to see it in context ...
2275:Hello, Kb. Please take a look at
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7258:Let's see if anyone completely
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3672:Wapping Hydraulic Power Station
3259:(in Newham) and perversely the
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6929:Media copyright questions page
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6894:Knowledge:Image copyright tags
6851:Image:1755 Stow Shoreditch.jpg
6676:who is GM's son states on the
5298:Queen's Park Community Council
5077:Institute of Contemporary Arts
2454:Template talk:Infobox UK place
2147:media copyright questions page
1286:, also need an article on the
966:Thanks for your message about
399:List of Restoration candidates
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235:10:39, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
221:09:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
178:02:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
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5127:Royal Academy of Music Museum
4670:page, better than that list.
4370:general public/average reader
4238:Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story
3968:I think there was a WPLondon
3651:WPLondon borough of the month
3624:funny you should mention the
3225:The history of Bromley by Bow
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1251:Nice work Kb. Our next task:
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805:18:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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758:13:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
725:12:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
694:15:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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659:, in others, they just don't.
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105:The five pillars of Knowledge
7578:Let a thousand flowers bloom
7041:Theatre Royal Stratford East
6909:criteria for speedy deletion
4618:Template:City of Westminster
1904:former music halls of London
1784:East London (disambiguation)
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125:How to write a great article
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7535:Talk:London postal district
7508:Talk:London postal district
6467:Maybe you need to join the
5960:Grade II* listed buildings
5082:Kennel Club Dog Art Gallery
3896:where I am downright wrong.
3305:Great images! Thanks! --
2187:The Prince of Wales Theatre
1129:automatically redirects to
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