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Yeah, it's complicated for topics like this. The german project seems a bit more relaxed about that, but sometimes it is just difficult to find good sources in english, since I am not in an english speaking country... Well, I hope this amount of sources is considered reasonable for review, but let's
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and, as a pictogram nerd, found the section you added about its design process to be really interesting. Dug around a bit on search and the NEMA site trying to find a copy of the main source for it—"Final Evaluation of Four Revised Safety Pictograms for Pad-Mount Cabinets"—but came up empty-handed.
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I really get annoyed with that comment/policy on topics like this, because I swear some people forget that not every topic has a billion secondary sources, some topics just don't have that many. It's a law regulating safety signs in the United Kingdom since 1996. I don't really know what commentary
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in the EUR-lex database. I found something for Germany, indeed its a bit complicated there, because there is no specific law for safety signs, but one for workplaces in general, which is specified by non-binding rules, like for safety signs. These require since 2013 the ISO signs, not the EU signs.
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In theory more secondary sources should fix the issue, however I going to guess those have not really shown up. I guess we'll have to see if those couple books you found are enough secondary sources to satisfy them. (You also might get lucky and draw another reviewer, who interprets that rule more
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Hello, sorry about the short delay. I was provided with the document by a individual via email, and to my knowledge it isn't floating around online. I reached out to the person who provided it to me, and they said it would be fine to send a copy your way. Easiest way would be for you to create an
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Would you add the German law or regulation for adopting 92/58 in Germany? I was having trouble finding the German law about it. (Feel free to add any others if you know them, I just went after ones I knew or could easily find.) If you have trouble with the citation, leave a link and I can sort it
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Hello The Navigators, I am currently writing a draft on the European Directive 92/58/EEC. I'm not a native speaker and I don't trust my English that much. So I wanted to ask you if you could help me with this as you are one of the most active people in this project regarding (safety) signage.
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A revert may have seemed heavy handed but I felt that showing invalid information would not be an improvement (and I suspect that it is fairly easy for you to correct and resubmit, since most of the pictograms have not changed since the 1975 law).
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Also, because of that issue, I deleted the draft of Directive 77/576/EEC, because there aren't that much accessible sources out there, even if I am pretty sure this Directive deserves coverage too...
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is definitely worth doing but only if it is done right. It makes no sense to give the 1967 and 1975 EU laws (which have been repealed), but not the current status (2008!) - see page 325 of
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on the EU's website that lists all the national laws adopting Council Directive 92/58/EEC. I started working through that to fill in blanks. Anyway, have a good rest of the weekend.
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Let me know how I can help, when you are ready. (I think accidentally found your draft on the German project, since it was a draft that was in English about 92/58/EEC.)
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Yeah, these topics are really tough to cover sometimes, likely part of the reason why we went about 12 years without a proper safety sign article on English Knowledge.
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Those would be the GHS symbols in column one, they're the same symbols. The EU adopted GHS symbols with CLP regulations in 2008, and phased them in through 2017.
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Hazard pictograms as laid down in Annex V shall have a black symbol on a white background with a red frame sufficiently wide to be clearly visible.
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I reverted it back to my version, but added some more text to the sections below to point out the phase-outs of the old EU and Canadian symbols.--
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So, I did some expanding to bring in more information from the annexes, and started locating the laws in member countries for adopting 92/58.
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