6984:. If it's not a possible BLP issue personally I'd still oppose it but perhaps you'd find more traction for allowing it. In any case, this is the wrong board for that. As for FindMyPast, I don't know much about the source, but the perennial source entry suggests, and to some extent our article suggests all it's really doing is collating primary sources and presenting the information. It sounds like it's not even doing a good job of collating the info since it makes transcription errors. Then the date of registration problem. Therefore while it might be a secondary source, it's not a reliable one, it doesn't have the reputation for fact checking or accuracy. It doesn't really do any fact-checking and it's not even accurate. Note that if you hang out at BLPN for long enough, one thing you'll quickly learn is that we do get a lot of cases where we're fairly sure someone has died, but we don't have and might never have reliable secondary source confirmation of this. I think the issue has probably reduced with the stricter notability standards especially around those involved in sports in recent years but it's still there.
5041:"Disbarred"? Where's the relevance of your comparison? As it happens, I know something about disbarment. For that matter, perhaps you should read the Knowledge article on disbarment. A disbarred attorney is not "suspended," he's ousted. He is no longer able to practice his profession at all. Forthat matter, your own comment illustrates the problem with the passage: no, Watten was not "suspended from his job," he remained a professor at his same institution. I presume he continued to advise grad students whose theses he was overseeing. He certainly seems to have continued to publish, attend scholarly events, present at them, etc. He was suspended from teaching classes while an investigation was pursued. Once the investigation was complete he returned to teaching. Nothing to do with an attorney being disbarred. You may also wish to read the report on the situation by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (thefire.org).
5693:). There are notices at the top of my Wiki page, as of January of this year, re my notability and the lack of citations. I notified the wider literary community about this and they obliged by sending me a number of links to commentary on my work, which includes reviews e.g. in The New York Times and Los Angeles Review of Books. I probably don't need to say that most poets are not reviewed, even unfavorably, in The New York Times. I'm also responsible for my personal website and that of my late partner, Kass Fleisher, on which the material at our Wiki pages is based. I've been busy of late adding references to her Wiki site myself, and I've added external links as well to the books listed at my site. (Someone had eliminated all the links.) As for my Wiki site, there is a good amount of material now there that wasn't there in January, incl. links to the Emeritus page at Illinois State University and to IMDbPro.
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from their job is a rather significant thing in their lives. I'm still not sure what the thing was that precipitated the suspension; that needs to be made clear. But then the argument really becomes one of weight and balance. Does it deserve an entire paragraph? Would a single sentence be more fitting, or would even that be too much? Can we even tell it with enough detail to make it clear in a single sentence (if that's all it deserves), because if not then that's another good argument to omit it. These are the things you should be looking into. What's not a convincing argument is saying everyone else has axes to grind, or coming in with the attitude that we're all stupid because we don't have degrees in this particular field. Those kinds of arguments not only get you nowhere, but they also tend to ward off any editors who would otherwise take an interest and try to help (like me).
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matter whether they're still in a relationship or their partner is deceased or the relationship has just changed. While editors will generally try to be sensitive the feelings of other editors when discussing them or their family or friends, we're here to build an encyclopaedia and so this does mean we may sometimes need to discuss details such whether a subject is notable, problems with sources, content for articles that subject may not like such as criticism the subject has received or controversial things the subject has been involved in. Any editor here does needs to be able to deal with this even if it concerns them or their family or friends. If they can't, I'd suggest they avoid even the article talk page as well as BLPN and restrict themselves to using their talk page with the HELPME template (as per
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understatement) and has been called quite a few things by reliable sources. IMO it's perfectly appropriate to note all of that with proper citations. But the community has traditionally set a very high bar for using negative descriptive terms in wiki-voice. There are literally scores of reliable sources naming the late Fidel Castro as a dictator, yet the community refused, rightly IMO, to employ that term in wiki-voice because to do so we would need something approaching unanimity among reliable sources. What is going on here, is that we are essentially putting our finger on the scale in favor of a handful of sources which are saying what I'm guessing most of us privately believe to be true. IMHO that is a no-no and this is a BLP violation. Thoughts? -
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law. The
Supreme court today (9 september) officially asked all private and public social media handles to delete the pictures and names of the victim. While they had been used by many prestigious news and media outlets who have thus deleted it. I have repeatedly said and maintained that the edit pertaining to the name has been edited multiple times after me and each time I have edited the article, I have not touched the name section. As an Indian National and a youth, I don't intend to take such legal and moral risks. If anyone disagrees, please do not revert my edit, but instead opt to other means. I hope the Wiki community will understand. VSankeerthSai1609 (talk) 7:48 am, Today (UTC+1)" and removed the name.
5325:, who's section on "Research and publications" is detailing the content of the publications, rather then listing out his works. Anyone who recognizes my user name knows I generally dislike lists of publications, and as there has been resistance to switching to tables, I try to use prose. I do not know the subject and am in no way affiliated with them to the best of my knowledge. My changing the bibliography was because I thought it was a poorly formatted, overly detailed, disaster. You can disagree with that opinion of mine, but I assure you, I hold no antagonism towards professors. You can check my user profile and look at my bio.
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often far more than the info itself. I think it could probably be whittled down to a sentence or two, or maybe it doesn't even deserve that much. Deciding weight is dependent not only on how much coverage it got, but also by how much coverage everything else got. For example, if you were able to expand the rest of the article with more sources, then it would give this even less weight. The idea is to proportion the info in the same way it's found in the sources. Keep in mind that all sources are not created equal and the reliability of them is not black and white. Better sources carry more weight.
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been settled. The topic is important for the universities dealing with tenured faculty (either inaction or over-reaction), but undue now, given the outcome of the issues, for an article about an academic. Coverage never extended beyond the
Chronicle of Higher Education. I have been in conversation with an editor (who turned out to be the subject) on the talk page about current modifications. At this point I believe the paragraph can be removed, but I would like an opinion here, which if in favor I can refer to if opponents come back in force.
6229:. I and others have tried to have this changed. But it keeps being reverted by a very small number of users. Who have also stated on the talk page that because they have sources listing him as having Italian citizenship that's what matters. When asked to provide an argument for why it should stay using the guidelines. They have either ignored that or said that "exceptions can apply", while one who is in support of the current wording has asked why I care about it so much and to just ignore it.
4361:"A fairly high threshold of public activity documented in reliable source" is not what the actual public figure guidelines say. "Significant coverage" is a notability standard (your link goes to the general notability guidelines). Those are related but not the same analysis, as someone can be a public figure without being notable. The issue for whether a person is a public figure has to do with self-promotion (voluntary publicity) as opposed to significant coverage. See
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what the standards are; they differ, but all of them have bibliographies. Why the bibliography was erased is truly a mystery--it is the baseline of verification, and all the works can easily be found online. / The thing is, I know you won't do what I am asking here, just like I know you did not consider--think about--what
HistoryofPoetry wrote. / Finally, I am asking for oversight and review. I cannot imagine how that would lead to a block, except as pure censorship.
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do you really think the argument that "other crappy articles exist so this one should be crappy too" is a good one? Wouldn't it be better to to make this into one of the really good articles? It would reflect far better on the subject that way, and shouldn't that be your goal? Your statement can cut both ways. If you don't know about encyclopedic writing maybe it's best to leave that alone. I gave my assessment of this article and that's all I'm inclined to do.
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that doesn't really say anything. What does "hostile interactions" mean? What's the point of this paragraph? What actually happened? It's, like, full of euphemisms and beating around the bush, yet never directly states what it is all about. I haven't read the sources but have a feeling this could probably be summarized down to a sentence or two in a much more direct and succinct manner. But the entire article needs that, not just this one paragraph.
6761:" suggesting they recognised BLP applies to any information about living people. And they're almost correct, perhaps not that surprising given their age but apart from that brief mention of the campaign everyone else mentioned in the page seems to be well past even BDP. (They campaign is also easy to miss unless you think about it since it's a direct link to a living person so e.g. you won't see a death date if you hover over the link.)
5773:), and with rare exceptions, you should not be editing either your own or Kass Fleisher's WP articles. There are warnings on the talk pages of both articles re: the photos you uploaded, as the copyright holder (whoever took the photo) needs to give permission for the photo to be used; I don't know what the permission process is, but if you don't get more info about that here from someone else, then you can ask about it at the
1322:. It is one of the most frequently discussed aspects of the band in almost all recent coverage that I can find since the allegations were made. Part of the issue is that this was not some huge band, and after the multiple allegations of assault and abuse, they stopped receiving most press coverage. But even still, there are numerous article from reliable sources over a series of years documenting these allegations. â
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5254:"American Comparative Literature Association" and why is the "Wellek Prize" estimable? What is a "Senior Fulbright Fellowship" and why is that information not on the page? What is "FIRE" and why does there public advocacy matter; what is "due process"? Why was reference to a 400-page bilingual selected writing published this year in Russia removed, along with similar verifiable references?
7073:^^ as you can see in the article published above in my home country of Bermuda by a newspaper . I have legally & officially changed my name to âDjair Terraii Parfittâ . I do not have Carl or Williams in my name & needs to be changed please . As online & in work people mistake me for Parfitt-Williams, as Knowledge is one of the first sources that come up . Kind Regards ,
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dates to 1998. They have no idea what an "edited volume" is. They have not consulted the many secondary sources that were provided, after erasing their digital addresses. They have removed all my publications, critical works, poems, everything. What do people consult a site for? For information. All of these support the content that the page, up until last week, was putting forward.
6119:, both had same dob, both had same mother's maiden name and both born in the same district. I couldn't find any death registration with the GRO though for Haggett or Goodman. My assumption is that reference is pertaining to her death certificate, weird though how her death doesn't seem to be documented in sources, that I can find, considering her past notability for representing
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two of us together have made a significant contribution to literary culture over the past three decades, on eight different campuses in three different time zones, and books we published under the
Steerage Press imprint continue to sell at Amazon. I'm in the process in fact of composing a biographical sketch for Kass Fleisher, which will when it's complete appear at her website.
6548:, and note they have better sourcing and more information (I did however remove salacious specifics on one charge from one article). Now that they have the correct name for readers who may search for him, those mentions seem adequate unless there's continuing coverage. Since this is at this noticeboard, I'll ask here whether anyone thinks a redirect should be created, to
1431:, the family's stance seems to have been disputed. IMO it would help a great deal if this we can get a clear answer on whether the family appears to want her name out there or they don't seem to care either way, or they'd prefer that it's private. This seems much more important IMO that what Indian law requires considering the name seems to be in a lot of extant sources.
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Morgellons fibers. When researchers scrape away the human tissue, they find objects that resemble a technical device in size and shape but without any circuitry whatsoever. I once handled one of these implants myself, provided to me by a hospital in the
Department of Veterans Affairs, where it had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered a UAP.
7105:, and it's been explained to me that these folks are working on a class project. Given that this appears to be an entirely good-faith effort to complete a project for school, I don't want to simply proceed with a blanket revert. But I also don't have time right now to go through these massive edits, separating the acceptable from the unacceptable.
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of which were removed by hapless editors). All this is well known to anyone concerned with contemporary
American poetry. What that shows is how little the editors know about the subject area, yet they feel entitled to cancel and suppress valuable and verifiable content. Pointing out their lack of knowledge has, as well, led to retaliation.
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limit bibliographies to a few key publications here rather then being comprehensive. I simply removed the redundant content, and what was left was easily incorporated into the rest of the existing text. I understand prose rather then lists is the gold standard, as I stated on the talk page of the main article. I pointed to the example of
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living subject unlike if it the case was withdrawn, thrown out or otherwise ended in a result where the accused can be considered acquitted of any crime. (Worse of course is where it's not simply an arrest but a conviction which we mention based on source/s, but the conviction being overturned isn't something we can't fine sources for.)
4217:. Since the person is themselves apparently of limited notability with not many sources covering them, I would suspect the number of sources covering their arrest is also quite small and while it may seem quite a few in comparison to the few covering them generally, IMO if it was just an arrest it's well worth considering if it's
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or not, but ultimately it doesn't matter. We shouldn't be linking to crazy conspiracy theories which name living individuals except when we need to consider including content on these conspiracy theories. (To be clear, I'm mostly concerned about the other likely low profile people, not the high profile person named there.)
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junk? Tea leaves? I wish I could help but you're speaking in riddles, and the overall tone of your comments is a huge turn off. It makes me not want to get involved at all, and I'm sure a lot of other uninvolved editors here feel the same. Thus, I'll leave you all with my critique and advice and wish you good luck.
3553:. For context the BLP in question created a single issue political party that never accomplished anything. He did an interview in a local newspaper but that is about it in terms of publicity. I'm not sure whether creating a political party and running for an electorate would make one a public figure per our policy.
4459:"Significant coverage", on the other hand, is a notability guideline, and is not particularly relevant to determining whether someone is a public figure. Whether someone is a public figure has to do with the actions of the person (e.g., self-promotion), more than the amount or type of coverage they have received.
5732:(3), I removed the notability tag. I also removed the commercial links to places where books can be bought, which should not have been there. If you have links to additional book reviews published in reliable sources (so, not user generated content like Amazon or Goodreads), then please feel free to share on
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there are many. Wiki should not be used for such purposes, and it was. You need to defend Wiki in this sense. The above editors judgments btw are based on absolutely nothing; they are tea leaves. If it happens that there serious objections to what remains up there--and there are--they need to be listened to.
2441:, essentially, because that reporter said they saw a UFO apparently 40 or 50 years, wrote some articles on the topic, a blog for their newspaper for a few years, and that this is apparently a disqualifying consideration and a "conflict of interest". Again, for emphasis, this needs to be read to have context:
5810:, I have left a COI message on your talk page so that you can see what the proper procedures are for editing pages where you have a conflict of interest. In general, you should not be creating or editing articles about yourself or former spouses, but making requests for edits on the articles' talk pages. â
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amount of public interest in the candidate, which should be reflected by the media coverage of them. If this meager amount of coverage is all he got, then I find it hard to say that he reached that public-figure status. The question then becomes: is his name really necessary to understand the subject?
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I'm trying to confirm that this person is actually deceased. There is a death date in the article which has HAGGETT, LEA MAUREEN, 1972 GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2014 in Kent (564-1Y) Entry Number 510398914 as the reference, but I don't know how to access that information to confirm if it's right. Please
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Now, I'm in the awkward position of arguing for my notability, but even a quick glance at Kass
Fleisher's and my personal websites should suggest a relatively massive list of publications, reviews, blurbs by any number of literary luminaries. This is a reasonable if general observation. Certainly the
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To ThisDirect, your objections and logic is also very hard to follow. Much of it is overshadowed by the tone of anger and outrage, which speaks volumes yet masks any good points you may have. You keep talking about "flaming", but what is that supposed to mean? I haven't a clue. Cancel campaign? Space
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I ask you to look at comparable pages for BW's peers among
Language writers: Lyn Hejinian, Charles Bernstein, Carla Harryman, Clark Coolidge, Bob Perelman, Kit Robinson, etc. Some are extensively written, with interpretive content (about the significance of the work); others are less so, but all have
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Historyofpoetry also makes an important point. The subject is a professor and critic but is historically important as a poet and early founder of well-known movement in
American literature, which is supported by the Wiki page for Language writing and numerous pages for colleagues in the movement (all
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Let me ask you to respond directly to my last short paragraph: do you or do you not recognize that the original text about Watten's demeanor in relating to students was inserted in the article as an attack on him? Almost certainly was inserted by one of the very same group of students who objected to
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I have to object to this discussion; it is made up out of thin air. There was no four year suspension. There were five union grievances and an arbitration. This is discussed on BW's website at length. But the real point is that it is now simply impossible to present an objective view of what occurred
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article suffered from a lot of controversy in 2019, kindly overseen by SlimVirgin. We settled on a compromise paragraph to describe the issue. Since the article has been unprotected there have been only occasional attempts by the aggrieved side to make changes. This is five years later; the issue has
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Actually having look at the primary sources, this isn't the sort of case that concerns me so much even if we just leave it hanging with the arrest. I mean yes, our article may seem incomplete. But it's IMO not a case where our lack of mention of the final result seems to cause significant harm to the
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territory. The initial mention should establish the reason for their notability as simply as possible (ie., is a politician serving as...). If sources are overwhelmingly describing them as such, that can go later in the lead section, but shoehorning terms into the initial mention, to me, feels overly
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and perhaps reflect on how we got here. While I understand that one can't compare apples to oranges, it's fairly evident we've extinguished any possible chance to bring balance to these articles because the sources
Knowledge considers "reliable" will absolutely eviscerate any politician who they deem
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Under US law (which is what Knowledge operates under), a government official or even a politician running for office is automatically considered a public figure. This is because the public has a right to know about the people they're voting for. However, for that to hold water one would expect a fair
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I removed the link on the article talk page and also here. IMO the email is clearly outing. Doug, look at number 3. Number 2 also raises BLP concerns IMO, I originally thought that the person writing the email was supporting the claim made. Frankly reading it again, I'm really unsure whether they are
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wrote "Hello, I will be removing the victim's name in the Knowledge page of the article. This is due to allegations and complains raised for alleged non-compliance of Indian laws specifically under my name and also my own consicence. I am a proud Indian national who will not and cannot act against my
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The sexual assault allegations against Watkin Tudor Jones have similarly been published in numerous reliable sources. Just because they reference a recording that one of the alleged victims made about it does not somehow make their reporting not valid, it just simply means they find that aspect of it
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Regarding the other 3 allegations - one is sourced back to a podcast interview (Danny Brown), one is sourced back to the lyrics of a diss track (Zheani), and the other seems like it sources back to a Sydney Morning Herald article involving Zheani if I'm not mistaken. The Sydney Morning Herald article
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Yeah, even though I wrote the article I forgot I included that thing about the Clinton-Gore campaign when I made this post. If that mention is enough for the page to require a BLP template then so be it, I just assumed it was added automatically in error and wanted to let someone know. I should have
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etc. notwally's comment was a general one (they said "former spouses" but there was only one spouse mentioned) and more accurately described the issue. They could have said "current or former partners" to be clearer, but the issue is people have a COI for all of their current and former partners, no
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Yes, there are a lot of crappy articles here. It's a by-product of user-generated content. We have tons of scientific articles written by scientists that are only useful to other scientists. Pop-culture and movies are often way over the top. We're not talking about any of those. Let me ask you this,
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Look, there is a field of knowledge called literary studies, or poetics, or poetry. The subject is a highly visible and accomplished poet and critic; that's why there's the bibliography. In turn, the work connects to a large network of poets and critics. Please leave alone what you don't know about,
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Only 10% of the important issues are in the early articles. And you have left out lengthy writings on the BW website plus the public letter to Wayne State by FERPA. What does it take to convince you people that this in no way "passes verification." it is space junk from a cancel campaign--over which
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To repeat: you do not know the content area, it is evident. Can you answer simply, and in one sentence, "What is Language writing?" and "Why is it an historically important literary movement?" What is "the turn to language" in philosophy and art? I think you cannot. We can go from there. What is the
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Nobody discounts the subject's notability or contribution to the world of poetry. That's not in dispute. If this were a mere traffic ticket that somehow made the news, that wouldn't be significant enough to be included, but I think everyone here would agree that something that got a person suspended
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What seems obvious, at least to this reader, is that someone has a problem with Watten, a personal problem, an axe to grind, something of that kind. I find it difficult to imagine that Knowledge is the right place for this person to work out his problem. Not even if he has a legitimate beef with the
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is a top notch source for coverage of higher education, it is remarkable that the case wasn't covered elsewhere. At least, I find no mention of Watten at Inside Higher Ed, the Detroit Free Press, or the Detroit News; only the 2 articles at the Chronicle. Likely a four year suspension from teaching
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Your newly proposed standard for public figures would mean all public figures are necessarily also notable, which is not always the case. There are many public figures who do not have the significant coverage in multiple reliable sources to be considered notable under Knowledge guidelines (e.g., all
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A songwriter who goes to public events and gives interviews and engages in other self-publicity activities is likely a public figure. Widespread notability is not requred for someone to be a public figure. Given that the arrest appears fairly widely reported and has led to professional repurcussions
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This is why we should have to wait for years before even using such labels in wikivoice, to establish that this is how sources well over time consistently use the label to apply to BLPs. (using the label with attribution can be done but that becomes an DUE issue). With this entire current political
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problems, that are seemingly unenforced against and overlooked, which is why I posted this. The involved user has tried to frame this as a content dispute, or that they were the originator of this 'against' me. They seemed, based on their almost instant talk page replies to any reactions to this, to
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I removed again since there didn't seem to be a consensus, and the material was added back with the only changes being more sources being added. This seems to be a BLPGOSSIP issue since all of the sources regarding their adopted son added back point to the News24 article itself (including the News24
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The first sentence is likely my fault, I was attempting to fix the sentence to better align with the source by removing the line "social media campaign." I have reworded the line again, and tried to state the allegations directly. I cited the specific allegations from the source to try and maintain
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Watten's a poet. You probably won't be surprised to learn that I'm one too. But I was also an Internet entrepreneur, a technology consultant, a college professor, & a short order cook. I'm not here to defend Watten; he'll have to take care of himself. I'm here to defend poetry -- &, believe
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Look, you folks are over your heads. That is why Thisdirect got involved--the site was badly in need of editing and accuracy. Cobbling together an author page from random material plus a flame does no justice. And you have excluded competing narratives, showing bias on the part of editors. I strong
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I'm the one who largely converted the bibliography from a list to prose. I was drawn to the article because of it popping up here, and found that most of the content in the list was already mentioned within the main body of the article. I believed that the list was excessive, and know that we often
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Yes, I think antagonism toward professors is an issue here, when it comes to knowing about subject matter which you purport to moderate. You people have managed to turn a reasonably useful site into a garbage dump in ten easy steps. Please do what I have asked and take look at the peer sites to see
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Apparently, whatever it was about got him suspended from his job, so that seems like something very significant to his career, that is, something that should be included. But are we giving it too much weight? I think it's very probable. Don't discount the effect weight can have on information, it's
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last year about you restoring BLP-violating material to politically sensitive biographies, during which you expressed the view that you did not have an obligation to ensure that content you restored complied with policy. If, 17 months later, you are still unable to follow core policies on political
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says she acknowledges an affair; CNN says it was with RFK Jr. per an anonymous source; RFK denies it; Nuzzi doesn't seem to have commented on whether it was him.) The lede also needs to be lengthened to avoid giving undue weight to the recent controversy. I may find time to get to this later but if
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Somehow I doubt it. I'd kinda equate it to the guy in Canada who camped out on an Island in the middle of a national park and tried to declare it an independent country. What I really have to look at is the amount of media coverage he got, which looks like almost none, judging by the article alone.
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I previously had followed this thread, and the only alleged BLP violation I saw was that another editor had called the article subject a liar on the talk page, which multiple editors have commented is not a BLP violation. If there are just other ordinary content issues, they need to be discussed on
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Glarr, can you tell us which previous vice presidents have a chronological order inconsistent with Gore? I had a look at all our articles on more recent VP and all of them have a chronological order consistent with Gore and our list article, at least in the lead. Likewise I went back all the way to
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From what I recall of past discussions involving an unreliable source (interview by Ben Jay Crossman, former filmmaker of the group who interviewed the foster son) being the source of controversial claims, we usually don't include. A recent example that comes to mind is a youtube "documentary" that
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for the groups page unless the impact of the allegations caused problems for the group such as a breakup, cancelled tours, etc. and would require their own independent reliable secondary sources to link such outcomes. After looking at some of these sources and claims, I believe they are unlikely to
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I want to add only that the OP has acted reasonably well throughout. They do not seem to have been aware of the letter of our COI policies, but did seem to attempt to maintain a NPOV, did not try to remove the notability tag themselves, etc; their responses were constructive. The two articles in
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Note that per her article their marriage ended before her death so it seems a fair enough description of the complexities here. (To my mind, "late spouse" generally means that the marriage was ended by the death, rather than an earlier divorce. Note that even the OP said "late partner" rather than
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Notwally you seem to have taken revenge for my comments on the BW site. At the same time, it appears that there is some kind of fraud going on, as I have been solicited for the services of a "wiki crafter" to restore my page--who could be the same person who is taking it down. I am asking that the
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It is pure sexism to call Kass Fleischer "a former spouse"--and incredibly cruel as well. Kass Fleischer was an important woman poet who tragically died too soon. Her work is of the highest quality and needs to be known and preserved. To say she is being supported as "former spouse" is neanderthal
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In any case I would greatly appreciate any input you might have as to what more might be required to establish my notability. I've been an ardent fan and supporter of Knowledge for many years now, and I realize you folks are short-staffed. So whatever I can do to help, just let me know. (There are
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The contested paragraph is also just as confusing. I read it ten times and I'm still not sure what it's trying to say. For example, the first sentence reads, "At Wayne State University in 2019, some students alleging hostile interactions to university administration..." It's an incomplete sentence
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Uninvolved editors will not have any objective relation to this incident. Most of the documents are not public. There has been a lengthy process. It is a personnel matter. And there is little insight on the part of editors into why this happened. Basically, the student had a paper due which BW was
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for inclusion if sources didn't care to continue to comment on the arrest afterwards even if the reason is because no source has covered the subject point blank. However the complicating factor here is that while the arrest by itself is something that we IMO could exclude, him being cut off by one
2955:. I did it once, and you reverted me, and then other people also merged the sections because they are about the same article. I didn't invent the rules here, people just merge sections about the same topic on this and similar pages. If you do not agree with that you can perhaps try to change that?
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From his post as a senior intelligence officer for the Secretary of Defense, Luis Elizondo knew by 2017 he had two choices: 1) make peace with silence and continue sitting on the Cold Warâs deepest secret, or 2) resign from a career he loved in order to fulfill his duty to serve the United States.
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Additionally, I have initiated a new discussion on WikiProject India to further explore and establish guidelines for handling such content consistently across relevant articles. Thank you for the insights shared here, and I believe this will contribute to the ongoing conversation in a more focused
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This is pretty extraordinary. The court didn't even order the article be deleted, he clearly meets notability requirements and his article has been removed without discussion. G10 has been misapplied here, it's for "biographical material about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and
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BTW, I'd consider this an example of the sort of thing I'm referring to. Some of the stuff I've said my be distressing. But since the issue came up, not raised by the OP BTW, it's only reasonable that we deal with it in a straight forward manner even if that causes distress. I've tried to word my
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I looked at the article, and the paragraph in question seems like an excellent inclusion for someone who is interested in this person. If you were looking to portray them in media in 100 years, this paragraph might be more useful then other more mundane stuff. It passes verification and is highly
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Of course disbarment is a false analogy. BW is a tenured professor; there was an internal complaint, and it is a personnel matter. It bled into the public domain in 2019 but has been internal since then. The articles cited were from 2019; it is 2024, and StarryGrandma was correct that they are no
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I have to agree with MrOllie on this one. An encyclopedia summarizes what is already published in reliable sources, good or bad. We don't take sides, we just publish what has been written about them. If this info comes from a reliable source, then it technically can be included. Now, that doesn't
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What puzzles me about sources is that they are lightning quick to report an arrest, but then they never follow up and report the outcome, and of course we can't use court documents to report the outcome which occurred in June 2024, and I did look for sources reporting the disposition of the case,
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articlesâto the extent you were willing to revert three times, persisting even after you were pointed to the exact policy section that appliedâmight I suggest that you stop editing such articles? There's lots more to write about on Knowledge, or, failing that, lots more websites to contribute to.
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Content requires reliable sources. I'm not quite sure what the source is or who the "UFO activist" is, but a person being quoted in a newspaper would not make what they said reliable, for example. The newspaper, as the reliable source, would need to state the same information as fact for it to be
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Look like only 10 edits since January 2024, with only 2 consecutive edits by an IP adding the birthdate (first to infobox and then to lead) since then. I don't think that would be enough to qualify for page protection, although that is an option if the editing becomes disruptive in the future. â
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The problem here is that that solution was responding to the "flaming" on the site by the students. Much has happened since then; it is out of date. Returning to the earlier version is in fact highly inaccurate. The test here is when the same group of students tried to publish their narrative on
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There is a serious lack of knowledge of the content area on the part of the editors, and it is also clear that they do not read print literature; they only compile digital sources. There is no indication that they have read my entry in the Dictionary of Literary Biography, for instance, and that
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You are still conflating notability and public figures. Anything controversial on Knowledge requires multiple reliable sources, but that is not the same as "significant coverage" under the notability guidelines. The "multiple reliable sources" in the policy you quoted is to determine whether the
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The only BLP concern I see expressed in this wall of text is that Polygnotus called the article subject a liar on the talk page. While it may not be the best way to make an argument, I don't think that is a BLP violation. While BLP certainly applies to talk page comments, there is obviously more
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While I understand that the familyâs stance is important, the law itself is crystal clear on this matter. I believe that in cases like these, itâs not just about legal compliance, but also about ethical responsibility to prevent distress to the victimâs family and respect cultural sensitivities.
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into their personal life sections. The allegations may also be relevant to the band's page given that many articles appear to discuss these numerous allegations when discussing the band, and the band even released a documentary dealing with the allegations called "Zef: The Story of DIE ANTWOORD"
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The current state of the article deletes massive amounts of verifiable information--much of which has been on the site since its inception--and massacres the history at Wayne State, introducing falsehoods and censoring public sources. I'm asking for a review of the actions that were taken and a
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To be clear, I am not threatening you - I will not block you personally, since I am not an admin here and cannot. But I have been around Knowledge long enough to have seen similar situations many times before, and the path you are on nearly always leads to a block. I decline to jump through any
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In any case, the foundation of your point is missing. This is not a biography of a professor; it's not a professional resume either. It's an article about an American poet. The article exists because (& only because) of the significance of his work as a poet. Certainly that's why instead of
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case, where Indian law (Section 228A of the Indian Penal Code, and Section 71 of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita) explicitly forbids disclosing the name of victims of sexual assault, whether the case is alleged or proven. This legal protection is in place to safeguard the privacy and dignity of the
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This isn't a new issue, it's come up a lot. When I first became aware of it, I was surprised we were naming the victim, but when I looked at the discussion it was claimed the family had asked for her to be named so I decided to let it be. (It was also claimed it was in a lot of sources, and was
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See, that kind of response is not going to help you achieve your goals. I may be ignorant about poetry, but outside of song lyrics it's not one of my interests, so I couldn't care less. Doesn't matter, because an encyclopedia article is not poetry. It's a very formal subset of expository style
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is the state of the article as it existed prior to deletion. The article was only about 3 sentences long, which basically only said that he was a judge and that he was convicted of child pornography offences. Is it an unsourced attack page? No, but it is largely negative in tone, and did not
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page. He is listed as both Australian and Italian in his intro, despite not being notable for being Italian. He does have Italian citizenship, but he was not born there, he has not represented Italy. While he is notable for being solely an Australian racing driver. It feels like a breach of
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Now, it's understood, of course, that a person's money-earning profession is relevant to his or her life. Thus, the articles on Wallace Stevens & T.S. Eliot mention their careers as, respectively, a lawyer/business executive & a publisher. But neither article mentions problems in the
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Mainspace article content and talk pages are very different. The restrictions are simply not the same. Editors are allowed to express their opinions on talk pages to a reasonable extent when discussing how to improve the article. There are also numerous reliable sources that dispute factual
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My specific interests involved alleged alien implants found in humans. From what I read, often living tissue grew around implants, but such growths never contained anything but the patientâs DNA in them. The growths sometimes sprouted multiple brightly colored hairs or filaments, similar to
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on the grounds that it was inadequately sourced and violated WP:BLP. This seems unreasonable to me. The information is verifiable and uncontentious; it's hard to see what information I could find to support it that doesn't count as original research. Would the primary source (the GRO death
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leeway since editors are allowed to express their own opinions to an extent, which is entirely prohibited from mainspace article content. The article subject appears to be a public figure who has made many controversial claims that have been disputed by others including reliable sources. â
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COPYING DELETE MESSAGE HERE This page does not exist. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 11:59, 18 September 2024 Explicit talk contribs deleted page Miles Spencer (Expired PROD, concern was: Poorly sourced promotional article on a "media
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with no result and a handful of editors have chosen to insert the language despite the concerns. I believe the number of sources using that language is far short of what would be needed for us to make that kind of statement in wiki-voice. Clearly the man is highly controversial (likely an
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It was nine years ago, and if she became engaged on January 23, 2015 and she confirmed it had ended by May 7, 2015, that is only three months and fourteen days. That is not notable or DUE for inclusion any longer. I removed it per the edit request on talk page which is a reasonable
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The current version of this article has female pronouns in the introductory text and male pronouns in the biography section. It is unclear from initial reading which gendered pronoun should be used, or whether multiple pronouns should apply to this person and used interchangeably.
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I do feel pretty certain, however, that at some point in the future, in an altogether different context, you will recall the first sentence of this paragraph & that it will help you think through another subject altogether, who knows what. At least I hope that will be the
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Disbarment is what we call it when a lawyer isn't allowed to work as a lawyer. Folks do get reinstated after a disbarment. This was plainly a major event in the biography subject's career, and you are doing your argument no favors by denying what is obvious to everyone.
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The syntax says "As outlined in a report,... Watten's behavior... had made many students & faculty uncomfortable." This is a claim as to fact. It is claimed as fact not opinion that Watten's behavior made some people uncomfortable. I.e. it's his fault -- he "made
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In the first paragraph of Al Gore's biography it is listed that he was the 45th vice president despite the fact that he was the 41st alongside Bill Clinton. This is inaccurate information and does not align with the chronological order of previous vice presidencies.
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are not simply churching out the same content about one incident. It is a series of articles over multiple years documenting allegations of sexual assault by three individuals in separate incidents, with later reporting referencing the earlier allegations as well. â
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The sexism in this thread is remarkable. Kass Fleischer is important as an "author"; she is a notable person. Such persons have relations to other people who know and care about them. Diminishing her and that caring relationship shows a true moral deficiency here.
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written as a very concise summary, the shorter the better. For this, I have a lot of training and real life experience that far predates Knowledge and the internet. Poets don't write to be understood, which is the opposite of how an encyclopedia should be written.
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including material that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime. If the consensus is we must absolutely and definitively include these allegations, then so be it, consensus is
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I would like to propose archiving this discussion now that the Request for Comment (RfC) has been closed. The consensus reached in that RfC has provided clarity on the handling of sensitive content, particularly in relation to victim names in articles about sexual
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I added a date of death to this article, having found the information in another Wiki, and then confirmed it with FindMyPast, a database that extracts the information directly from official registers of births and deaths. The edit was reverted by another user
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Well done, MrOllie; your response came quickly enough that it would have been impossible to have read & considered my paragraphs. Thus, I guess, we should conclude that there was no reason for you to read them, no reason to make an effort to understand
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If we're talking about a case where BLP applies either BDP or we don't at least have reliable secondary source confirmation of death that's old enough that we can be sure it doesn't then using primary sources directly for a date of death would violate
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I can supply resources that can be used to reconstruct the site. But someone needs to step forward to do this. As I have said, I have received a scam solicitation from a "wiki crafter" and that does not rule out that one of these editors might be
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comprehensive bibliographies. BW's bibliography has been entirely erased. This is simply wanton aggression. Please see the author's faculty page and restore this material--it is the baseline for any article on a contemporary writers. Amazing.
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Well, I am a pedantic person, and I did not call them a liar. I just pointed out that "It is very hard to figure out when to trust a liar" which is the kind of obvious truism moms everywhere and anywhere say to their kids. It is just a fact.
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that seem to be running with some level of tolerance by involved editors for years. I am not going to further reply to Polygnotus here myself, as they seem determined to attempt to (apparently) reframe any complaint about their behavior or
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Based on a quick internet search, I found many reliable news sources that have covered these allegations. I have restored the content to Tutor Jones's page and Visser's page and added additional citations. I also moved the content from the
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Furthermore, the edit history for this article shows a repeated altering of the gender/pronouns for this article by third parties, but only in certain sections and which are often quickly reverted - further adding to the confusion. See the
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that reads like a resume rather than an encyclopedia article. Much of it glosses over whatever point is hidden in there and overwhelms the reader with trivial detail. In short, it's a nightmare to read and needs to be rewritten in summary
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Thank you; I would heartily support this solution. I would not be involved in this if it were now not entirely out-of-date; as well, the student campaign was discredited with their attempt to renew it in the CP journal People's World.
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I would recommend both users stop responding to every comment made by the other and instead allow other editors to comment, which becomes less and less likely the longer this thread becomes an endless tit-for-tat between two editors. â
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No need, b/c you have your guiding metaphor. Watten should be treated like a disbarred attorney, because some graduate students complained about his manner & his university quelled the complain by removing him from teaching for a
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content is noteworthy and significant enough to override privacy concerns and include in the article (hence why the subsection is under "Presumption in favor of privacy"). The allegations here are covered by multiple reliable sources.
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The two MSN refs focus on the documentary about Die Antwoord, both reading like churnalism, the second outright promoting the documentary. They are very poor sources that I don't think should be used to give any weight to the matter.
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In the meantime, no matter what else you or anyone writes here, it is altogether obvious that the intention of the original writer of these sentences was to attack Watten. Pure & simple. That's not how Knowledge should be used.
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to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourcedâwhether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionableâmust be
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to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourcedâwhether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionableâmust be
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If you are trying to claim that there is the same strict application of BLP policies when applied to talk pages, then yes, you are wrong. There is obviously more leeway in talk page discussions than on mainspace article content. â
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this, I can't see how it meets the criteria of G10, seems more like a case for discussion at AfD. People can attract notability because they were a Vatican judge involved in child sex offences.
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It turned out that almost all the people in Willâs studiesâmilitary and intelligence officials with remote-viewing abilities and/or UAP encounters and biological effectsâhad Native American DNA. Specifically, Cherokee blood.
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1. Even SlimVirgin's text is problematic: it reads -- "As outlined in a report in The Chronicle of Higher Education, over the years Watten's behavior, allegedly short-tempered and hostile, had made many students and faculty
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Well the UFO activist is a guy who writes for an otherwise normal newspaper. But he has a certain bias when it comes to UFOs because he spent most of his life as an activist. Thanks for your edit, that is a big improvement.
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As for encyclopedia articles--a quick glance at Wiki pages in popular culture or movies shows incredible overkill of detail, often written by professional PR people. There is obviously a very wide range of standards here.
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also see the talkpage of Lea's article, where there has been a back-and-fourth with claims from people apparently related/connected to her, but fail to supply anything concrete. Google searches only bring up the following
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aspects don't even begin until 2017. The source in question is used to provide basic biographical and professional data, and is one of six sources that are used to highlight a persistent conflict that is noted across many
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This article is not a biography of a living person and as far as I can tell, does not contain any information about living people. The BLP policy need not apply. Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this concern.
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How, therefore, is the discomfort some of Watten's students felt about his manner relevant to the article about him? Overall, there seems to be no pattern of problems in general with student evaluations of Watten -- see
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There is no earlier acceptable revision, and there was no sourcing present to allow it to be readily rewritten. The only source not about the criminal acts didn't mention the article subject. The article clearly failed
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Now, let it be said that once a person is convinced of something (e.g. by a metaphor like disbarment), it's usually difficult to stimulate that person to an all-new consideration. Thus, I expect no change in what you
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to keep that bit of info in? We can include the citation needed template, but seems useful to balance out the fact professor is not indef banned from teaching which implies the case is probs resolved and in the past.
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Actually it seems all the details there were just taken from the editor's user page so there's probably no outing. However given the BLP concerns with number 2, I still see no merit to keeping the link to that email.
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But if we accept that that is his official website (and it appears to be), then we must accept that the facebook page it links to was authorized (we would generally count that as a "verified" page, acceptable under
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may be a better forum to discuss the issue. As for the article content, the "and supported by others" language was too vague. I edited the sentence to make it more direct and less open to ambiguous interpretation.
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Further complicating the matter, the subject is a scholar whose work is pretty controversial, dealing with eugenics and purported connections between genetics and social class. He's been boycotted, etc. Not quite
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You've been getting leeway because it is normal for an aggrieved COI editor to lash out a bit, but you should know that the patience of the Knowledge community has limits. If you keep making personal attacks and
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restoration of the site to its condition a week ago. We can still talk about the Wayne State narrative, but what is happening here is pure retaliation for my objecting to edits (and to comments on another site).
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in the lede nor the one in the body entirely matches what the cited sources say, and there's a nuanced set of overlapping disclosures, denials, and asserted-only-with-attributions that need to be captured here.
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are directly editing this article in a fairly aggressive manner. It would be good to get a consensus on text for the incident from uninvolved editors. For comparison, here is the version left by SlimVirgin
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It's not clear when or how he was reinstated to teach again since there is no secondary RS on his reinstatement. We just know from his university profile/CV that he started teaching classes again in 2023.
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I couldn't find any sources announcing her death, for Lea Haggett or Lea Goodman, and there is no other info in the article pertaining to her death. It's a mystery to me what that reference means as well.
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From what I can see, in the case of Tokie's accusations, all five references were published in April or May 2022, all based almost entirely on the same video interview. That suggests a NOTNEWS situation.
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Good heavens! The subject of the article is an American poet. His relevance to the history of late XXth century (& forward) American poetry is what signifies in the article, & it is not at issue.
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I removed the name of the fiance as it does not seem necessary to keep in the article. The fact that the article subject was engaged for almost half a year seems like it is probably noteworthy. â
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is a far-right ideology, because Robinson has self-identified as and has engaged in actions consistent with being one? Robinson has engaged in Holocaust denial, supported Adolf Hitler, praised
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Just one point- family does not decide on whether a victim shall be protected by law (before or after) death or not. The law takes over the matter if there is one. The provision "Section 71 of
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at the top of the section containing the report. At least leave a comment about a BLP report, if doing so might spare other editors the task of needlessly repeating some of what you have done.
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you can expect that your account will be blocked sooner or later. It will not be because of 'retaliation' - it will be because of an inability to civilly and constructively work with others.
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I don't think a short-lived relationship adds anything to the article (and labelling her religion certainly does not!) and suggest you first take your concerns to the article talk page.
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are "on the other team". While I'm almost certain that there are articles where we could be critical of AOC's public image and remarks, but as you all know, those of course, are UNDUE.
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seems to be an in depth look at the allegations but I would think we would need more in depth coverage from reliable sources that don't explicitly point back to "In the diss track, ..."
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on Knowledge, including this page. If a discussion took place on the talk page of Goldie Watson, and a living person is mentioned for some reason, the policy applies to that talk page.
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I was going to take it to AfD if the PROD was removed (which it has been), but in the meantime I wondered whether he should be mentioned in the article based on the IP edit from 2015.
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I have gone ahead and removed it based on the article talk consensus against inclusion, and the supporting source given did not independently verify that he held the Italian passport.
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and cultural conflict , we have to do a far better job of NOT (eta) letting our personal desires to apply labels overtake our need to remain neutral and disinterested in our writing.
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So--again--this is a 100% seperate issue, topic, and concern from the above Elizondo section. That one is a content dispute; this one is about user behavior and no policing at all of
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I read quickly and your prose is clear and easy to understand. I just disagree with its content. I used disbarment as an analogy because you mentioned a poet who was also a lawyer.
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Agreed. We can repeat what other's have said about him with attribution. But not use those terms in the community's name. I also note that the immediate issue has been corrected by
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working on my own projects I'm spending precious time trying to prevent someone (I don't know who) from using Knowledge as a hatchet on the reputation of a poet. Over & out.
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If it was a common name, of course, then there would be a risk of error and the information might then fall into the "contentious" category. But that surely doesn't apply here.
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The page initially had a BLP template on its talk page, (probably due to the mention of the Clinton-Gore campaign) but that has since been dealt with. I think we're all set.
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Joe Amato is a well known and influential poet and critic, whose voice is respected in literary circles. Kass Fleischer likewise. Glad you are helping to build up his site.
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The VRT team redirected me to this noticeboard, explaining that I had been referred incorrectly and that they do not have the authority to control or edit Knowledge content.
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Hence, it is -- to me at least -- clear as day that someone used Knowledge as a weapon against a person that someone wished to discredit. Do you really fail to see that?
4568:(Rookie here, will try to be succinct) Advised by @Explicit to request republish here. Seek to correct reference of phrase deemed poorly sourced with accurate sources.
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Hello, I have just double checked the GRO reference that I added (General Register Office for England and Wales) and it is correct. It can be checked at the GRO website
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Here is what I wrote StarryGrandma. Please take a look at comparable sites for comparison; what you people have done is way below standards for writers of my generation:
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Can someone have a look and give their view on the matter. Because I see this as a clear breach of the guidelines. But discussions on the talk page are going nowhere.
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who happens to have allegedly seen a UFO 45 years ago and then spent decades of his life convincing others that that event actually happened and was not rare.
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Yeah, agreed. Unless if there are multiple reputable sources indicating Greta Thunberg is antisemitic, we probs shouldn't include that.
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articles, which doesn't seem to be a particularly contentious or problematic source of info. I expanded the article some to prevent
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neutrality and align with what the source says. If you can revise further, please do so.
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This is well-considered & might provide a sound basis for framing this incident.
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Luis Elizondo -- can UFO activists be used as a reliable source on UFO-related BLPs?
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widely featured in rallies etc.) However looking at one of the discussions on this,
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Absolutely not. That's introducing original research atop the neutrality issue.
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If anyone has the time and interest to take a look, it would be appreciated.
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to have it on that particular talkpage. Not that it actually harms anything.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this. Thanks for your opinion.
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reliable information. If this is just a question of reliability,
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meaningfully discuss him in any way other than his conviction.
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I invite others to read through this and help address rampant
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The statements made by Luis Elizondo have not been confirmed.
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I would like to bring up a similar concern in relation to the
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the preceding section after I told them I would be bringing
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People's World, it was removed as unverifiable. And it is.
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removed immediately and without waiting for discussion
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Whats the's process for changing it on her article?
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It is very hard to figure out when to trust a liar.
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