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757:), and uploading your photos there first. You should be able to get your identifications verified there by other knowledgeable people. A significant number of editors who are uploading their own photos of insects to Knowledge are coming here via iNaturalist. Note that (last I checked), the general default licensing option on iNaturalist is CC-BY-NC, which is not compatible with using images on Knowledge. If you have an iNaturalist account, you can change your settings to have a personal default licensing that is compatible with Knowledge such as CC-BY-SA or CC-BY (it's also possible to choose different licenses individually for each image you upload). 230: 212: 301: 181: 150: 240: 879: 561:, the two genera described by Wipfler et al. (2018). Species File includes records for these genera and their species. Species File is also the source used by Catalog of Life, which uses other Species Files to cover the whole of Polyneoptera. A test of how current the Species File will be when they incorporate the Perkovsky et al. (2024) findings.  — 450:
Personally, I think Knowledge should following the three-family classification set up in Damgaard et al. (2008), which I think might be the most accepted one at present (but I could be wrong). But I wanted to check here first, in case I shouldn't update Knowledge accordingly with this classification
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there, but you can note tentative IDs in the file description. That way you needn’t worry about complications from “prior publication” elsewhere, you have the option of simply posting a link instead of uploading the file to online forums, and if new info comes to light you can edit the description
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Easily done. It's not really clear how ITIS update their records. I assume it is literally the record for the taxon that has been verified, not the classification within that taxon. I tend to treat ITIS as a last resort as so many parts are very out of date and it's hard to work out which sections
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I've become interested in contributing to this project because I have a hobby of taking photos of local insects in my area, including ones without images yet, and I would be willing to upload them here to help the project. However, I am not an expert, so I don't know how to verify that the photo
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I would be inclined to follow Species File as that has the most up to data species checklist and we can use it for the whole classifcation rather than mixing sources. It uses one extant family, but recognises the three Damgaard family groups as Austrophasmatini, Mantophasmatini and
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Checking Google Scholar now, there are 87 results for "Austrophasmatidae" and 20 for "Tanzaniophasmatidae", while "Austrophasmatini", "Tyrannophasmatini", "Tanzaniophasmatinae" each have only one result, Arillo & Engel (2006). "Ensiferophasmatidae" has only two results,
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To be fair, ITIS is also complete and reviewed this year, which means we could use that without needing to mix sources. What I was trying to say is that I think the actual scientific literature in recent years prefers to use the three families classification so far as I can
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defines it as "A term used to denote a class of individuals within a species. A name which explicitly refers to an aberration is unavailable.". Basically it's some aspect of morphology that differs from what is usual for a species.
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note that you can upload your (suitably licensed) images to Commons whether or not you’re certain enough of the identificaton to include them in an article here. There’s no equivalent of
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Sounds like three families might be the way to go, but whichever it ends up being, it would be a good idea to include mention of these alternate taxonomies on the relevant articles.
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and I would really appreciate if some more experienced editors could weigh in, specifically regarding the inclusion of some potentially self-published sources. Thanks
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subjects are the exact species that I conclude. I do see editors that take their own photos. Would my photos warrant verification by an expert, and how? Thank you.
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and Arillo & Engel (2006). (Google Scholar's index is clearly incomplete as Zompro (2005) is missing from all of these, it is still clear which is preferred.)
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article has a cladogram with a lot of redlinks, and links which redirect back to itself. These articles should be created. Thank you.
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seems to use a combination of Zompro's two families but Arillo+Engel's tribes and genera (and some genera described more recently).
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have? Knowledge currently treats it as having a single family Mantophasmatidae, but this appears to have been entirely based on
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Is there a more appropriate WikiProject to post this request for help? I didn't want it to get archived without being noticed.
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prefer to use three families, Austrophasmatidae, Mantophasmatidae and Tanzaniophasmatidae. Looking to online databases,
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have been comprehensively updated. In contrast with CoL you can get the datasets of the updates on ChecklistBank. For
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the latest is version 0.40.3, issued 2024-04-18. Although strangely CoL itself has the latest update in Jan 2024 (
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uses two families, Ensiferophasmatidae and Mantophasmatidae, but places a number of genera in synonymy with
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that was reviewed in 2024. The subordinate taxa have older review dates. ITIS doesn't have records for
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Oh that's really cool. I'll look into it and take heed of the licensing stuff. Thank you!
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Oh, my mistake then, clearly I misunderstood how ITIS records work.
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Does anyone know what "ab." means, for example, as used on
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Tanzaniophasmatinae (they also have Tyrannophasmatini).  —
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You are invited to participate in the move discussion at
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Those articles certainly need de-jargonising. Ab. means
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Greetings, Today while working to de-orphan articles (
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