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However, note, I have now totally given up on including this material in wikipedia. I am willing to give it a go if there is someone who is really keen to have it included, but any attempt would encounter fierce opposition and ad hominem attacks and insults from WP and BI and there are at least two
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You are right, missed that, yes seems I did make that one occurrence into a link to the website. Was not meant as promotion and had forgotten. Can't remember now why I did it, possibly just so they know what I'm talking about. A link to my website on a talk page discussion four years ago which I'd
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The main concern is that in the worst case it could cause environmental disruption of the Earth. This is thought to be a very low probability possibility, but can't be ruled out. As a result the conclusions of studies by the
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Same pattern here: throw up walls o' text on your fringe POV in order to draw eyeballs to your blog and
Science20 articles.... lol! BTW your website is broken. You've been obsessing at Knowledge so much your business is starting to suffer. It might be a good idea to redirect your energies for a
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Hiding long exchange with BI. of no relevance to microbiology or the issues above. I happen to be a developer of music software which I sell. I have full disclosure of this on my user page, you can show the exchange below if interested but I assume most readers here won't want to read
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I need to explain (or at least make an appropriate wikilink) the term "L forms of streptococci". I get the streptococci part, but what does the L form mean? I know some chemicals can be L or D, but I don't think this is what it means. Any suggestions? thanks...
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right in the middle of one of the paragraphs-and this is marked as a top-importance article! Unfortunately I'm not remotely experienced enough with the ways of the wiki (particularly the markup language) to try to fix this myself, so I'm requesting help here.
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