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practices, and 'efficiencies' could be embedded imaginatively in social services and public events. Eric Adams speaks often on behalf of the health benefits of plant-based and plant-exclusive diets. While he ought to learn about the practical realities of toxic buildups in the fish who swim in oceans (dumping grounds) and anywhere near cities (and fish are migratory, and those buildups are fast because of their rapid respiration rates), he seems pointed in desirable directions related to food. I think we 'miss the point' of what is notable TO US and our concerns about Eric Adams and his public places.

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YouTube has 3000 followers, his Twitter 3000, his Instagram 4700 followers. If you search his name on Google books, Google News or Google scholar or JSTOR there are no hits. There are no RS in English that mention him in detail. Some of the sources on his Finnish Knowledge article do not pass our reliable source criteria. There are four Finnish newspaper articles that mention him cited on his article which is good. However, these wouldn't be enough to establish notability for an article on here. It's possible you could create a stub article about him but it risks being deleted.

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lie to promote their cause. In reality very few athletes are vegan. A lot of celebrities sometimes flirt with veganism for a short while as a publicist stunt for advertising, it is just a scam to make money. There are very few long-term vegan celebrities. I say this as someone who has spent countless hours researching the topic. PETA used to do the most sexiest vegetarian award and things like that but most of the celebrities posed semi-nude for them in a single advert, this doesn't mean they are long-term vegan or vegetarians. It's is just a publicist stunt.

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3 companies selling it as a protein powder and they have all stopped selling it. There is no reliable evidence it contains a good amount of B12. A lot of people had high hopes about this but the research has not panned out. It would be lovely if it did but we just do not have the confirmation. The sources you added were not reliable, that is why they were removed. I have not seen any new research on the topic, so I doubt we can update the article to any great degree currently.

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favor of translating into (any other 'interested languages') (a) Knowledge articles and (b) Knowledge articles in this project. Last year, he notes in his LinkedIn account, he was "Third place in the VegeAwards competition as Finland’s best vegan influencer" (is that a 'notable award'?). Can visibilty be measured apart from how Knowledge officially recognizes 'notability'?

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Based on some of the scholarly sources I have just read, Woolman did try and cut down on his meat intake but he still ate meat. He never was a vegetarian. I have not looked into much about the religious element of this. Obviously people go vegetarian for different reasons including ethical, religious

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Potential Targeting by Publicists: It's possible that publicists or marketing teams may strategically align celebrities with certain causes or lifestyles, such as veganism, in order to enhance their public image or appeal to specific demographics, including environmentally conscious or socially aware

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is a good source of B12. It has never been confirmed, all I see is one trial. I have some personal history with this myself. I used to take a duckweed protein powder supplement about 4 years ago. The company that were selling it have since removed it from the market. As far as I know there were only

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Benjamin Pitkänen. Viral Vegans. Helsinki, Uusimaa, Finland. - So there is a Finnish language Knowledge article? Has that atrticle been translated into the languages of the nations where 'Viral Vegans' (sounds like an Internet venture) are recognized? Swedish? Norwegian? German? In general I am in

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In general I only cover USA/UK coverage articles, I don't have time to translate other sources usually. It's possible Benjamin Pitkänen might qualify for an article on here if we use Finish newspaper reports. I can easily translate these because there is just a few. I have just found 2 others. There

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PETA and various vegan organizations or activist websites such as VegNews compile a lot of these lists, they then are copied to websites like imdb. The websites are indeed activist influenced and unreliable. Such websites have an agenda to claim most athletes or celebrities are vegan. They basically

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Activist Influence: There may indeed be instances where celebrities are promoted as vegan or vegetarian to capitalize on the popularity of these dietary choices among activists or certain consumer groups. This could be seen as a form of "greenwashing" or exploiting the values and beliefs of a target

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I think that the question each of us ought to be asking is how might the NYC Mayor's Office have enhanced the herbivorous values that we have today, with the deep enrichments from decades of careful scientific work, bolstering granular understanding of veganism's desirability, so that vegan values,

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VeganLife Magazine, Vegan News, Metro, Evening Standard, thecanary.co, Mirror, Instagram, rt.com, metiza.com, unitydiner.co.uk, vegconomist are all unreliable sources. It's possible to draft an entirely new article for Ed Winters as some new sourcing has come out in the last few years but I am not

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Can we suppose that this illustrates that seemingly 'reliable' sources are unreliable and not to be believed (or that 'vegans' as a grpup may be targeted by publicists for such celebrities in order to advance these celebrities by the talking habits of activists)? Is there a term for disinformation

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Looking a little more, I realized many of the names I expected to see under Vegans are listed in the Category:Vegan Activism. Perhaps listing them in both areas is redundant, since both are subcategories of People in Veganism, but that seems a different area of discussion than non-activist public

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I am not convinced he is notable right now for the English Knowledge. This guy is an activist and online social influencer but doesn't have many followers himself. An easy way to tell if an activist or online influencer is notable is to look at how many followers they have on social media. His

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As a historian I am more interested in historical vegetarians. Most of the historical individuals I have researched were vegetarian and did not cheat. Unfortunately in todays society there seems to be an obsession with consuming fish but then people claiming incorrectly they are vegan or

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In light of these considerations, it's essential to critically evaluate the information presented by publicists, media outlets, and even fellow activists. Doing so helps ensure that individuals can make informed decisions and avoid being misled by potentially biased or inaccurate

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I agree an English Knowledge article would need to focus on only some of the sources used in the Finnish Knowledge article. Is international news coverage the only criterion we're left with? Because I'm afraid that's how we get stuck with USA-centric and UK-centric coverage.

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Thanks for the comment. I'm not sure the number of followers is comparable across languages. You'd need to compare to other Finnish-language accounts, if we go that route. I'd go check how many followers the subjects of existing articles have but that would go into

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Reliability of Sources: It suggests that not all claims made by publicists or even by the general public (hoi polloi) about celebrities' lifestyles are accurate. This underscores the importance of verifying information from credible sources before accepting it as

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There are reputable sources as of 5/22/2024 - notably Vegetarian Times articles discussing Vegepet in the late 1980s. Today's reviewers are unlikely to know of those discussions and contribvutions from their own experience, so the historical unearthing must be

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Just Newly joined in, Don't know where to post this topic in our vegan group ,is this right? can anyone help in checking my edits/sources here were they were being deleted/reverted.... and critique or add possible new citations to support its validity.

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In terms of Category:Vegans, the same dedication is required to justify including it in the Categories section on their page. If so, there are certainly vocal, active vegans who could be added to the Vegans category (albeit not everyone on the List of

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from the WikiProject. According to historical sources he tried a vegetarian diet for less than a few months (this means nothing considering he lived 80 years). He was not a long-term vegetarian and very little sourcing exists on his diet. His brother

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Many of the athletes you added are not vegan or vegetarian, I will go through the others later. If you research these individuals deeply you will find newspaper reports or interviews where they have admitted to eating eggs or fish.

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are about 6 newspaper reports that mention him and 2 English articles. This means a total of 8 sources. I think he would qualify but it wouldn't be a massive article but as new sources come to light it could obviously be expanded.

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is a pescetarian as he is a big fish consumer and has admitted to eating fish at restaurants. He is not a vegan or vegetarian, he is a pescetarian. He currently is currently included in the "American veganism activists" category

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Also this a prod/soft delete not a deletion discussion, I don't think anyone will oppose this deletion request but posted this here due to courtesy and the mention of if it being suggested to notify contributors/Wikiprojects.

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Most of the sources seem stuck in 2020 so they're no longer the most relevant. I agree it should be pretty easy to find better sources. The subject is definitely notable now and there's ample coverage pretty much everywhere.

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I agree. Out of the 3 sources used in the article, only 2 seem like they could be reliable. And out of those two, one is to the vegepet site. So, I concur that there are not enough reliable secondary sources to support this

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is the good category to expand and keep because those individuals are known for their veganism. We can only use vegan and vegetarian categories if the person is notable for that, it must be a defining feature of their life.

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project. So far, it's gotten 3 votes and 1 opposition. Given your interest in divulging animal rights, I thought you might be prompted to vote for it and make it available in many more languages. Thank you beforehand!

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Kenneth I. Burke, Mary Clifford, Lenore Hodges, Cyndi Reeser, Connie Metcalf, Patricia Mutch, Lydia Sonnenberg do not qualify for a Knowledge article as there is a lack of reliable sources that mention them.

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I noticed that the Category:Vegans exists under "People in Veganism" but only has eleven individuals listed. This seems like an area for considerable expansion, especially when cross referenced with the

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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.

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eats fish. Most "athlete or celebrity lists" online for vegans or vegetarians are completely inaccurate, they are usually promotional lists. They are not reliable unfortunately.

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Quality assessments by Knowledge editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at

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sent representatives to the IVU's World Vegetarian Congress there and presented a series of PowerPoint documented sessions on the imperial cuisine of China. In

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are not vegetarian as they eat chicken or fish. I am currently removing non-vegetarians from the list. See talk-page discussion. Any help would be appreciated.

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Kyozan Joshu Sasaki who died age 107 I am trying to find sources for his vegetarian diet. This source says that his students were fed communal vegan meals

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but these are only an extreme minority. There is only a handful of examples. I would like to improve Rumi's article and add mention of his vegetarianism.

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Some of the influential yoga teachers and writers were vegetarians but this information is missing from their Knowledge biographies. Examples include

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has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the

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Reportedly, he was not really vegetarian. There's (little or) no evidence for the claim. Reportedly, the anecdote mentioned happened to

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on this, he has been seen in multiple restaurants ordering and eating fish. Even his personal assistant admitted he is pescetarian.

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has long been CLAIMED to be vegetarian by Christian vegetarians. Where is the evidence that he was not a long-term vegetarian?

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sure why this old article has been revived with even more unreliable sources being added to it like Instagram or vegconomist.

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for political or publicity or self-aggrandizement purposes? Lying? Disinformation? This scenario highlights important points:

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which is more strict due than GNG due to the potential for promotional articles from marketing companies and their influence.

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Nice spot. We need more members of this WikiProject such as yourself to find mistakes like this. I am reading over the book

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is said to have "abstained from animal food, as he did also from the use of leather and the skins of slaughtered beasts"

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In a nutshell, activist websites are the worst sources of information on vegan celebrities. They are best to be avoided.

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for example has never been a vegan. She calls herself a "cheagan" as a joke, and has admitted she still eats red meat.

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eats eggs and meat all the time but if you read their Knowledge articles it still says they are vegan. We need good

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for whom veganism plays a significant role should have it included on their page in the "See also" section.

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It is hard to find historical examples of veganism in Islam, although there was the former-Muslim

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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I know what GNG is but what is NCOMPANY? Can anyone link the policy/ guideline - just curious?

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I think I understand but forgive my inexperience here. It sounds like only individuals on the

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might have been vegan "Rumi was a staunch vegetarian and shunned even milk and milk products"

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Benjamin Pitkänen is among the best known activists for veganism in Finland. At the moment

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category but it is not well populated. I recently found a critic of veganism Chris Belshaw

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Hello! I'm reaching out to you because in October, I proposed the English-language article

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Christian Mortensen was not a vegetarian, see talk-page. His article should be updated.

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I have created Knowledge articles for dietitians and physicians associated with the

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Unfortunately many of the celebrities cited as being vegetarian on the article

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purposes it's probably helpful to add articles about other countries as well.

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and wanted to check if there was a reason it had not been done previously?

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Not some but most of them because yogic philosophy conventionally mandates

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing

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Interesting topic, where do you vote for this? I could not find the link.

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As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to

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named after him, so perhaps it's about user settings (search language?).

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Ralph Waldo Trine's Knowledge article has sadly been deleted

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for academics and scholars who have written about veganism.

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I've never heard of Google News as criterion but there's a

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Eric Adams 'relationship' with vegans and plant-based diets

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was a long-term vegetarian so belongs in the WikiProject.

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