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4806:" is confusing and does appear to be a food industry jargon term or other technical language that is not appropriate as the article title. A search of news articles that include the term "meat analogue" through Google returns only 979 results that go to most URLs in industry publications and some food industry blogs. Then on Google: "plant-based meat" with a return of 139,000 results, "vegan meat" with returning of 21,900 results, "plant‐based meat alternatives" with return of 17,600, "meat substitute" with return of 13,300. The article in the second sentence definition does include that "More common terms are plant-based meat, vegan meat, meat substitute, mock meat, meat alternative, imitation meat, or vegetarian meat, or, sometimes more pejoratively, fake meat or faux meat." Do any editors read "analogue" as a 4518:
lacto- and ovo-lacto versions of vegetarianism. Nevertheless, all these still try to maintain the ethical stance of non-killing (or so to speak), though not non-harming, thus falling short of veganism. Including fish in vegetarianism will, in addition to already compromising on the non-harming stance of current mainstream vegetarianism, also compromise on its non-killing aspect. Thus it remains even farther from mainstream vegetarianism, let alone actual vegetarianism or veganism. Given the already diluted definitions of vegetarianism (with the inclusion of dairy, eggs, and honey), anything beyond these will only make the definition invalid. The already-diluted term would then cease to be what it intended to refer to.
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break out and start something de novo. However, I do think that a wish list can be advisory, even if we don't attract someone who is ready to make it happen and to bring all the followthrough required at that moment. I have created several hundred Knowledge articles already - and I have worked on quite a few more, but most are not in this project. My usersubpage tells which articles which could have been in this project had been deleted without much recourse. I have recruited several vegans to this project. I have worked on quite a few of the articles in this project. On the topic of the desirability of content, I suspect that the topic needs to be studied separately (not reported directly on this page).
3742:. Also, Ms. Leneman may have written or contributed to grey literature that mentions Wheldon (a long-shot, but she was reportedly an effective grant winner). Nonetheless, I doubt that Wheldon's opinions constitute much more than an analysis of what he could find at his time. Some of his illustrations are for populations that eat very little food (and the peasants of various European and other nations). That is what he calls a spartan diet in one place, and abstemious elsewhere. But why did Wheldon and others think that way, at that time (and in those places)? Where in England had Rupert Wheldon lived? Perhaps reading 5200:. And surely the biomedical research industries morally challenge any of us who would work with them, but (the children of) Jains and Hindus and Adventists seem to have no challenges seeking careers in those industries. Also, a 'roadmap' project should be developed for 'the veganization of vaccines' (if we are going that way), as 'roadmap' projects are needed to dramatically develop biomedical research strategies that are not exploiting sentient beings (nonhuman animals) as biomedical research subjects (a long roadway ahead, but not without possibilities if we merely add those methods to the biomedical research toolkit). 5196:, Vegetarian Resource Group, etc.) are notable and historically significant. Issues about vegans as American people are debated in the US Supreme Court. Oh, and no doubt, life as a vegan can be much harder if individual vegans seek to become intellectually consistent in order to satisfy their intellectual interrogators. Did Thoreau say that 'a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds'? How many of us have merely responded (to questioners) that we need to think longer and more deeply about the topic, but right now, we err on the side of doing less harm than the other possible choices might occasion? See 3872:
the book really is, is one of the first vegan books to put forward some serious ethical arguments against people consuming animal foods. Wheldon was not a dietitian or physician himself but took all his information from other vegetarian writers. Unlike other vegetarian works of this period no medical journals reviewed Wheldon's book. Maybe it was too controversial. Most vegetarian books of this era were promoting the consumption of milk but Wheldon criticized its use. In the paper cited above the author Leah Leneman who mentions Wheldon's book says it was forgotten about. That is a shame.
1235:, on page 61 it says Kellogg was bitterly opposed to Eddy's Christian Science ideas which he believed were false. Both Eddy and Kellogg held direct opposite views about the world. There is evidence that Eddy was a plagiarist but the quote in this case appears to be a modern mistake. Somebody may have read Kellogg and somewhere down the line it got confused with Eddy, or more likely someone just made it up and falsely attributed to Eddy. It appears others have also used that line or one very similar to it. I just discovered that Ghandi also said "Man is not by nature carnivorous". 4987:"Vegan beliefs should be protected as religious beliefs under Title VII and state FEP laws when a person's choice to adhere to veganism stems from deeply held moral and ethical beliefs and the person holds those beliefs with the strength of traditional religious beliefs. There are many indications in the case law and elsewhere that, under certain circumstances, vegan beliefs can and should be found to be "religious" under Title VII. As a matter of public policy, state FEP laws should provide at least as much protection as Title VH does for employees." (pp. 283-284) 2886:). Any theory begins as a fringe (or even rejected initially) and expands only later as more and more research is done on it. AIC is an active topic in the field of critical animal studies continuously being researched on. It's not a "dead" theory per se, and including all that has been published so far would only expand the article to its true potential. I still feel several sourced contents have been removed in the article in the recent clean-up process, which needs to be reviewed and reverted as applicable. Maybe other editors can throw more light on this. 1816:, who would often say that he was vegetarian (lacto-ovo vegetarian) for ecological reasons, and he stated that moral concern for others ought to be developed ecologically (not 'in a rights framework'). But then, he was a 4th generation Marxist, also. Obituaries were written by those who didn't care about the topic, and I wish we had made a point to include that in what others had said about him. Let me reach out to his students who contributed to the book and to those who contributed to his 3-day birthday symposium the year before he died. 1715: 4300:
article) than to create the article itself. While vandalism in other Wikiprojects is more about projecting things (incorrectly though), vandalism in veganism and animal rights projects is more about suppressing contents or suppressing the "unsavory" truth (as in deleting contents that is pro-animals and anti-people), perhaps due to guilt consciousness and cognitive dissonance of those vandalizing editors (who don't even participate in these projects otherwise). Recent examples include the struggle to maintain articles like
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disciplines. The book series you mentioned consist of four books each, published 2015—2018 and 2012—2016, respectively. I am rapidly losing my ability to assume that you're acting in good faith — it's becoming clear that you've decided that CAS is a "legitimate" and "established" academic "discipline", and you're trying to push your view against all evidence to the contrary. If there was any doubt about the difficulty of dealing with editors who stick their fingers in their ears... --
1067:, which is a community group advocating for any Wikimedia Foundation sponsored event which includes catering to provide vegan options. I know that not everyone joins in-person wiki events, so that particular organization's objective may not be of pressing concern to many people here. However, I hope that people here share the sentiment that when anyone spends Wikimedia community money which comes from donors, then that money should go toward purchases which everyone finds accessible. 195: 151: 3258:
coverage but improper citations, and I have been adding citations to keep the articles. But now I'm discovering others that may have similar notability but also were lacking proper citations that have already been deleted. All were nominated by an editor who has been accused of bias against other pages of interest to this project, and therefore I am sharing these AFDs already voted deleted that may be of interest to others participating in this project.
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efforts? If other projecgts (or this project's individual members) push for developing well-written evidence-adequate articles on the topic seems tangential to whether or not this project should prioritize developing articles about means to feed plant-based materials of 'caged and companion animals' (to be readied some far off time in the future - or sooner). But then again, perhaps we ought to be more visionary about this project.
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and had one response that it would be up to each individual page if the link would stay or not. Personally I see it being beneficial to add "List of vegans" etc. to the 'See also' of those listed, and the former attempt showed it was of interest to readers. Maybe others besides myself can comment on the talk pages of the two articles to bring the discussion back around again, and this could also include the interesting new page
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vegetarianism Knowledge articles are rarely edited. Apart from myself and two other users creating the occasional article nobody else is really helping this WikiProject. I hate to say it but this WikiProject seems to have just become a dumping ground on the main-project page of article requests most of which are not being created. There are hundreds of page requests and requested edits but nobody is doing the work.
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is something few vegans would agree with today. It's obviously an important historical work that reflects the thoughts of the times amongst the vegetarian community. Wheldon never lived in Britain he just visited briefly in 1910. I suspect he might have met C. W. Daniel because he published his book the same year. I believe Wheldon would qualify for an article.
2748:. You could have provided sources showing it's also true for "critical animal studies", but you didn't. (I guess you tried but couldn't find any.) According to the available sources, "critical animal studies" is very rarely taught at universities. Maybe it's a "fledgling" or "nascent academic subject", but certainly not an "established academic discipline". -- 2266:
examples given in the lede para is acceptable because this removal might indeed make the article appear "fringe" (thought it is not, like you said). Also, does the qualifier "fringe" warrants the removal of any links to the article found in other articles (such as the Speciesism article, where it was earlier mentioned in the lede)? I'm confused.
4393:). The then unknown editor added his claims quoting me (as "According to Knowledge User Rasnaboy..."), which I initially mistook for vandalism (for obvious reasons). Later, it was clarified in the discussion and I retained his changes in the article, revoking my edits. Hence the above strikethrough. Hope this clarifies what I meant. Cheers. 1446:, modeling it after some pages I created for LGBTQ characters. I know its lacking in some areas (like games and film), but I think its a good first start. The more entries on there, the better, although those entries should be well-sourced. In the future, vegan characters could possibly be spun off onto their own page, titled something like 1231:
or from people with an agenda. Isaac Newton for example was never a vegetarian. There is a lot of evidence to suggest Mary Baker Eddy was mentally ill. She did not believe the material world around her was real. She was not a vegetarian. I cannot find any evidence she directly communicated with Kellogg but in Richard W. Schwarz's biography
4969:. Same here, and I'll volunteer user space for it be brought back as a draft page so we can at least take a look at what shape it was in when it was deleted. Remember their U.S. national McDonald's campaign in the early 1990s that Howard Lyman and Jeremy Rifkin enlarged internationally the next year as the "Beyond Beef" campaign? 1854:, could elaborate from experience with him and his conversations, research publications, and "scientific research directions." Because he was a communist in Cuba, FBI surveillance force him to forego institutional position in the Caribbean, and he "ended up doing vegetable farming for a living on the island’s western mountains." 4386:, for pinging me and your genuine concern on this. But just wanted to tell you that you've mistaken me here. I don't consider anyone vandals unless their edits are so. That's the reason I struck through my above lines regarding the Sentience article edits. Please go through the said edit (link in the above strike-through text)( 2615:"Critical animal studies" is not a "legitimate" or "established" academic discipline. It's more political activism than science. There are no departments or professors of "critical animal studies" anywhere in the world, and very few recurring courses on "critical animal studies" (I found two universities offering such courses: 1071:
as the animal option, just without the meat. When there is a meal, vegans get salad and bread but no entree or buttered vegetables; vegans skip the dessert course because all desserts have dairy; and when there is coffee and cream vegans do not get a non-dairy creamer because they can have plain coffee.
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If this Wikiproject had 50 or more active editors I could see a lot being done but as it stands hardly anything is being done. Until things start being finished I don't think we should keep adding requests to the project page. I see lots of talk but no action. I am always going to create articles but
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and others. There is a food table on page 109 that I do not understand. He seems to be saying there is more protein in dried wheat, beans or lentils than beef or mutton. Maybe I misunderstood it but what he wrote is not correct. On page 94 Wheldon criticized the use of coffee and tea as poisons. That
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Nice research thanks for finding out his middle name. MaynardClark, from the link Throughthemind has found its now proven that Rupert H. Wheldon was Rupert Henry Wheldon a photographer by trade, he was not a scientist or trained physician so we should expect a few nutritional errors in his book. What
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article last year wasn't successful without a long debate. That said, including even a simple sourced info in animal rights and veganism articles often attract long, unconstructive debates, especially from editors who are skeptic about, or oppose, veganism. I guess this is a major cause for the lack
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I think its better to find photos for deceased historical people because there are usually no copyright problems. I tend to look for people deceased before 1925 because then articles or books that contain photos are always in public domain in the united states and in many cases Europe as well if the
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I agree psychoanalysis is pseudoscience. It can be hard sometimes to distinguish fringe from pseudoscience. Most animal rights scholars that have Knowledge articles are not writing about this animal–industrial complex idea but some academics are publishing on it so maybe we will have more sources in
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Yes. The idea of an animal industrial complex is alive and well in scholarship in a range of disciplines, from (noted) academics working at mainstream universities, publishing in peer-reviewed journals and in books from established academic publishers. It may or may not be associated with ideas that
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I'm afraid I don't care if you think that critical animal studies is not a legitimate or established academic discipline, and, again, I'm not interested in an argument about what defines science. We follow what the sources say. As you have noted, the discipline is taught at research universities (no
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If you like, I could point to lots of "mainstream" (as in, professionals at respected universities) philosophers, sociologists, political scientists, etc. using the term -- some of whom may, but some of whom may not, profess to be scholars of critical animal studies. But I don't know what that would
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Well he looks like the kind of guy who would be vegetarian because he was concerned about environmental matters and he did live a long life. I'm disappointed it wasn't mentioned in an obituary but as you say the writers wouldn't have personally known him. Let me know if you find any new information.
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Sometimes there is lack of historical information for people's dieting ideas or their quotes get taken out of context. In this case the quote was entirely fabricated. There is a long list of historical people who were never vegetarian but in modern lists of vegetarianism they are included by mistake
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The lesson to us who have sincerely held moral beliefs is to not mess it up by letting others frame our ideas in their ways; indeed, our ideas are our own. Trying to play polemically but not genuinely with intersectionality and to capitulate to political parties that don't align with our values may
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This I'm thinking is vegetarianism by association of topic and could be misplaced here. However, this could be part of a pattern of targeting of certain content that is often associated with vegetarianism. I am finding AFDs of animal welfare groups proposed for articles with significant and ongoing
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I don't have any interest in arguing about whether critical animal studies is pseudoscience. As I think we both agree, it is not (and does not purport to be) scientific in the way that thermodynamics is (and does). But I hope we now agree that it is a legitimate (albeit small!) academic discipline.
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The bigger challenge, and this may or may not be out of scope of Knowledge, is that there are no obviously available best practices for explaining to restaurants, caterers, and event planners what it means to provide vegan food. Typically, the food industry imagine that the vegan option is the same
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sadly passed away in January 2021. Flyer did not officially join the project but she was one of the first users I emailed on Knowledge and she was supportive of the aims of the Project. Flyer a few days before she died emailed me telling me she had quit Knowledge but I had done good work with this
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The article should be treated as a hub for all vegan related articles, as part of the WikiProject on Veganism, working as a collaborative team, with each editor focusing on a particular task, such as main body composition, style and formatting, and sourcing citations to support factual statements.
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I get your point now. I should've been a bit elaborate prior to listing those. I listed some of the struggles and debates (in maintaining sourced infos), including vandalism and unconstructive edits. Only the edits in the Sentience article was what I considered vandalism, which I mentioned in that
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How can we find more energy and time and opportunity and resource to tackle these challenges? Further, there are 'countless silent vegetarians and vegans' 'of note' (for Knowledge's standards) out there in professional roles (whose existence is not publicly recognized, but who belong to industries
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As for Wheldon's influences he took a lot of his material from Dr. Alexander Haig. Haig was the first vegetarian to criticise the consumption of legumes and whole wheat bread because of their high- purine content and this was quite controversial in the vegetarian community of the day. Wheldon took
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It looks like you're accusing me of trolling because I imitated your aggressive language. Instead, you could have tried to provide sources that confirm your claim that "critical animal studies" is an "established academic discipline". I think it's reasonable to expect that an "established academic
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article has a discussion taking place about why the said article defines vegetarianism as a diet rather than as the dictionary definition of the word which is as a belief system and social movement. This confusion of the definition has become a cause for Afd nominations for other vegetarian pages.
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His son Alejandro wrote to me that we "don't know of any published mention of my father's diet. He was not vegetarian his whole life, but only in his last few decades." The last few decades of an 85-year life can be a significant biographical time period for a biographical comment. I am waiting to
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to the 'See also' sections of entrants pages. This added large additional daily views to those two pages. Within a short time an admin removed all of them, and the page views of the two articles similarly declined. More recently I asked at one of those talk pages if the 'See also' ban was still on
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As the years went by, though never a professing vegetarian, Mrs. Eddy ate less and less meat, just a little liver or chicken occasionally, with perhaps fish hash for supper, or something light on toast. Bacon—or salt pork, as she called it—was her favorite meat, and pigs were kept on the estate to
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Yes, he wrote and said vegetarianism is essential for a nonviolent activist, and that's the information I was thinking of which could be covered in a page. Exact quotes would be needed to that effect to make such an article topic notable, and could include favorite dishes, recipes, etc. Not one of
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who died in April or May 2021 was active on Knowledge since 2004. This was a very experienced Knowledge editor who created and improved hundreds of articles. She had created 369 Knowledge articles and greatly improved many articles to GA status. SlimVirgin was supportive of this WikiProject and I
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Yes. Technically, vegetarianism is consuming anything that is derived from vegetation. Thus, originally it refers to a plant-based diet (or dietary veganism). However, the term is already diluted in the mainstream by the inclusion of dairy, honey, egg, etc., giving raise to various shades such as
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There has been an edit war on the definition of pescetarianism in the lead. The same user on different IPs keeps trying to add pescetarianism as a vegetarian diet. This is not accurate as pescetarianism is not vegetarian because it includes animal protein from seafood. Some vegetarians do consume
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When a project member joins with us, that editor may have already created and/or worked on Knowledge articles before. I would hope that prior experience is the case, that s/he brings working Knowledge skills. But that volunteer may not have immediate awareness of where to start or the desire to
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I agree, too, that a lot more is needed to be done here. However, unlike with other Wikiprojects, where articles are improved despite vandalism and unconstructive edits here and there, in veganism and animal rights–related articles, it's often harder to maintain an article (or the contents of the
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Is there any real documented evidence Richard Levins was a vegetarian? The answer appears to be no. MaynardClark you wrote "That's because you (and most others) look only on the Internet", if the evidence is not on the internet anywhere, then where is it? Most books and journals have been scanned
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If a food is intimately associated with vegetarianism as a lifestyle or social movement, like plant-based milk or designated meat substitutes, then include it. Including food products which are merely compatible is not productive. If anyone feels strongly then data modeling food on Wikidata is an
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I created the article a few years ago with all the sources available to me at that time (and, yes, I know there are quite a lot out there that I don't have access to). Please see the recent revisions in the article's edit history (and also the talk page). I'm not quite sure if the removal of the
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to Richard Levins but no mention of vegetarianism can be found here. You request on the WikiProject page that mention of his lacto-ovo vegetarianism is needed but no sources seem to support it. Maybe you personally knew Levins so perhaps you have some personal experience with the man but not one
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Where I am based there are now plenty of "ordinary" non vegan restaurants which all serve at least 1 or 2 vegan options, and in that option there is a non-dairy desert. This is becoming more acceptable. This was not around ten years ago, so things are changing. I didn't know about the Wiki loves
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Yeah, he only authored one book. It's been reprinted many times with slight title changes and sold on Amazon under many reprints. I have access to records and found his death certificate listed in the California, Death Record Index, 1940-1997. He died on June 6, 1960 in Monterey. So this is now
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Yes, there's loads of literature on the animal-industrial complex. It's a pretty central concept in critical animal studies, and is used in other areas of animal studies broadly understood. It's hard to know what will satisfy editors who stick their fingers in their ears and shout FRINGE FRINGE
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article? I've tried my best (and still am). Unfortunately, it is on the verge of deletion as some editors feel it is a fringe concept. However, I see it is well-known in the academic circle and is a growing concept in the animal liberation movement. Also see the related discussion for including
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If this were a nursing textbook, we might discuss 'vegetarian diet' AS a form of human diet, and a nutrition textbook might consider more (including land and energy resources, human motivations, etc.). An encyclopedia article ought IMO to be far more comprehensive (and deletionists reproved and
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Founded in 1974, the North American Vegetarian Society (NAVS) is a non-profit tax-exempt educational organization. Their focus is two-pronged. The first is to provide a support network for their members, affiliated groups and vegetarians in general. The second is to inform the public about how
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I disagree with the claim that AIC is a pseudoscience. That AIC can be used in political activism (just like any other social science theory such as capitalism) doesn't make it a pseudoscience. Integrating academic research and political engagement is part of critical animal studies. Calling a
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may offer 'historic transformation' of the deeply-entrenched 'meat' industry (so that current species of 'meat animals' would no longer be 'kept' in 'factory farms', but does that discussion deserve place in this project (particularly as separate pages produced through this project's scheduled
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If someone is a major figure in vegetarianism then fine; if someone is only incidentally vegetarian/vegan then no. List of incidental figures with a relationship to the scope of a WikiProject are hard to manage and outside the scope of typical editor interest. WikiProject Medicine for example
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The article has been a disaster from the git-go, with far too little emphasis on creating a clear and concise reference article on the fundamental principles, worldview and ethos of veganism. The ethical basis of veganism has nothing to do with diet or nutrition, and no practical relation to
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I agree that there are about a million things that could be done with this WikiProject. What you have outlined above is just a small part of what could be done. Unfortunately there are hardly any members of this WikiProject and nobody seems to be doing any of this work. Most of the vegan and
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I'm afraid I don't care if you think that critical animal studies is a "legitimate" or "established" academic "discipline". We follow what the sources say. As you have seen, the subject is rarely taught at research universities, and is of low to very low relevance for handbooks about related
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Yes, I would say that several hundred hits on google scholar qualifies as significant enough coverage to make it a respected minority theory, like those discussed earlier. As such, I think the article should be expanded based on this scholarship, not deleted. Anyone else want to weigh in on
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In theory, could we get one of those students or family members to state publicly that he was vegetarian? Such as a tweet? Maybe you could do this yourself, Maynard, though I don't know if it would count. Unless something like that happens, I don't see how we can include it in the WP entry.
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What I am finding hard to understand is why many editors are insisting the word means "a diet" when words ending in -ism indicate a meaning of ideology or social movement. It is fundamental to the meaning of the word and puzzling to try and understand the reasoning of these said editors.
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had strongly recommended them. Because Ms. Veneman died 21+ years ago, we cannot try to contact her. However, we could reach out by e-mail (S.Nenadic@ed.ac.uk) to her colleague and friend, Professor Stana Nenadic, BA, Ph.D. FRHistS, Professor of Social History and Cultural History at
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are not held particularly widely, but that's no different from (say) any number of ideas in anarchist theory, Christian theology, or postmodernist literary criticism. By all means, include sourced criticism of the idea in the article. But don't try to lump it in with homeopathy...
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Added a pretty good source from another page, seems mainspace ready even though it's missing the hall of fame and the 1991 McDonald's event held in 40 cities (which Howard Lyman and Jeremy Rifkin then expanded to 900 cities internationally in 1992 in their Beyond Beef campaign).
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vegetarianism benefits humans, other animals and our shared earth. NAVS accomplishes these goals through many means, including a quarterly magazine, developing and distributing other publications, hosting conferences, advising the media and assisting individuals with inquiries.
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central topic of an interdisciplinary scientific field a pseudoscience only amounts to violation of NPOV. I agree that being "fringe" shouldn't stop the article from growing as the burden of research lies not with Knowledge editors but with the political scientists out there.
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So, you've declared it a fringe theory (on the basis of some bizarre reasoning about hits on Google Scholar) and declared that there's nothing I can do about that. If there was any doubt about the difficulty of dealing with editors who stick their fingers in their ears...
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author if anonymous or deceased. Howard Williams died in 1931 so its possible if we find a photo of him it might be copyrighted if so we just upload it locally onto Knowledge and not on Knowledge Commons but I have never seen a photograph. I also need a photograph of
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Claims about vegan diets, vegetarian diets - evolution of arguments and nuanced discussion of these claims. Usually these are health claims, but other claims include: cruelty would be decreased and the ecosystem would be less damaged if all animal agriculture were
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have book series dedicated to CAS. I am rapidly losing my ability to assume that you're acting in good faith -- it's becoming clear that you've decided that CAS is not OK, and you'll always be able to find some other language or some other argument to justify that.
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So now all of critical animal studies is bunk? This is an academic discipline with peer-reviewed journals and journal articles, books and chapters from reputable presses, modules at reputable universities, research organisations, and all the rest. You don't have to
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is a pseudoscience in the same sense that psychoanalysis is a pseudoscience: It uses terms that sound scientific, but it does not make testable predictions, and mostly doesn't even try. Instead, it relies more on subjective experience and opinion. In the case of
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I wanted to share this here as a real-world problem which wiki could address. I am imagining that all sorts of industries are looking for guidance, and if we could surface something and put it in an informative article, then we could shift public practice.
3604:. We should create an article for this person because he is important in the history of veganism. Please search for any references and put them here. I will be having a look tomorrow. Rupert H. Wheldon was born in 1883. When did he die? His book is online 4340:
of enthusiasm that Psychologist Guy is worrying about. I'm sure, we can improve these articles drastically with the current bandwidth of editors itself if we all put our best in the building the contents. I'm in for anything that you guys decide. Cheers.
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Agreed, the falsifiable and testable criteria is very useful to separate science from pseudoscience but there are some cases where this cannot be applied. It's early days on this subject, there might be some testable criteria in the future. But much in
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Most of the early members of the Vegetarian Society were actually consuming fish. So they were pescatarian by todays standards. Howard Williams was actually a fish-eater. This might appear controversial so we leave it off his article but if you read
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which can benefit from diligent service and insight. Is there any way to 'operationalize' that resource by topical 'strategic' articles on 'a vegan strategic roadmap' to veganization across intervolving industries and social and economic sectors?
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influence from Haig's uric acid free diet but then seems to have also gone against it by recommending those foods to his readers (beans, lentils, wheat etc) but cites approvingly of Haig's criticisms of eggs. He also quotes from John Smith's
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Johnson, Lisa. "The religion of ethical veganism." Journal of Animal Ethics, vol. 5, no. 1, 2015, p. 31+. Gale Academic OneFile, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A456289555/AONE?u=anon~c43bb445&sid=googleScholar&xid=f419dc2b. Accessed 12 Aug.
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IMO there should be a general article - or a set of general articles - about the topic. What constitutes 'vegan' will be a concern (cloned animal cells do not qualify as 'vegan' IMO); only truly plant-based items could be considered vegan
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NAVS won the largest part of the award from a very large Southern California law case (the vegetarian bus driver), argued by a lawyer who was a practicing Jain. The lesson to us who have sincerely held moral beliefs is to not mess it up.
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Chisahn, I really have no idea what you're talking about. Could I ask you to speak in plain English? I am happy to do what I can to improve the article, but I'm not quite clear on what the problem is supposed to be, or what would fix it.
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sentence (that too only before the discussion in the talk page). I agree that the sentence "Examples include..." kinda sounds as if I considered all those as vandalism, which I don't. Hope you get it now. Thanks for pointing it out.
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confirmed as Rupert H. Wheldon (July 3, 1883 – June 6, 1960). I see there is some coverage on Google books. I think he might qualify for an article and I am all for giving it ago. This is a good paper that mentions Wheldon's book
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Scribd upload of some of John Davis's historical work; John Davis until he retired was a computer scientist who was (i) IVU webmaster and (ii) amateur vegetarian historian; no one I know can tell us where John and Helen Davis are
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project and she hopes it continues. I still have that email. Flyer had quite a controversial Knowledge history but she was a good editor. She will be missed. Flyer was a vegetarian herself and improved many articles in this area.
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left are promising, and I was going to add the NAVS Vegetarian Hall of Fame with the inductees but am not sure if what comes up on a quick search can be used as an acceptable source. Anyone come across a good one? Thanks.
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the next few years. I think the article has been fixed because good sources have been added. Rasnaboy was worried this article was on the verge of deletion but it has been fixed, so I think this issue has been resolved.
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do you know how to get the article assessment statistics bot (WP 1.0 bot) working for the global summary table​? It is working on most other WikiProjects, for example look at the WikiProject animal rights statistics box
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routinely expresses regrets about including so many physicians just because biographies are not a popular editing interest in that community. If anyone wants to curate biographies do it in a list article or on Wikidata.
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and I'm working on one for Moving Mountains. I only really know about companies active in the UK so if there are some overseas brands that are notable then please let me know and I can potentially do them next. Thanks
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You lost me at "Firstly, the article should be edited strictly by vegans. Non-vegan editors lack a comprehensive understanding of vegan principles." Your entire section, and the one you made below us, is egregious
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fish and that controversy sometimes pops up but if we are going by proper criteria and definitions then pescetarianism is not vegetarian. I don't think we should classify it as vegetarian as it will confuse users.
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List of TV episodes treating veganism as a topic - There are many during some periods of time, but maybe listing the 'list articles' (of episodes in a series) in the WikiProject is unsuitable for the WikiProject.
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but none appear to exist. I have found an obituary for Williams in a newspaper I will update his article with that info shortly but I agree there is not much information about his personal life unfortunately.
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Google Books listing for 1910 version of _No Animal Food: Two Essays and 100 Recipes_ By Rupert H. Wheldon · 1910, argues that leaving to others the gruesome work that we would not do for moral reasons is
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discount coupons to bus riders). Of course, vilification of vaccine objectors is also 'in the news' but discussing that here may not be politic. Many are not clear whether that topic should be considered
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my enthusiasm for this WikiProject has dropped. Nobody has joined the project since October. I am disappointed with that but maybe it is still early days. Maybe in a year or two things will be different.
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There is a current discussion about saturated fat consumption and its association with disease. It might be relevant for users in this WikiProject who are interested in the topic. Link to the talk-page
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revealed you are right that the topic has received significant coverage. My suggestion would to be to incorporate such scholarship into the article. A good start would be with this piece by sociologist
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was the first to introduce them in this thread. Was that "bizarre reasoning" as well?) There are many other fringe theories that have more Google Scholar hits than "animal-industrial complex", e.g.
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means and how vegetarianism is a set of beliefs and social reform movement. Thank you for any comments as this inaccurate definition will continue to affect other pages relevant to this project.
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While we 'are at it', the topic of hidden health harms (HHH) in 'merely faux foods' may deserve its own articles (high-sodium, high-fat 'faux foods' are not necessarily 'harm-free' to humans).
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is a fringe theory and mostly pseudoscience. (Its proponents state quite clearly that their goal is political activism rather than objective science.) But I'm sure you'll disagree. That's OK.
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as a whole) is pseudoscience, just as it's reasonable to say that psychoanalysis is a pseudoscience. But I know it's often difficult to delimit science, fringe science and pseudoscience. --
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Good idea, and good to credit our forerunners. Thanks for the deep search. btw, Knowledge has no page on "Start from scratch" (maybe it had to do with a cat, will search engine it later).
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is on a plant based diet but you read all these articles and their diet is not mentioned. I think we should improve these articles if we have reliable sources they are vegan or ex-vegans.
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But if that's so, I'm not sure why you want me to point to its uses outside of that discipline. Surely,if it's an important concept in an established academic discipline, that's enough?
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prove. I could point to the term being used in "mainstream" journals and in books from "mainstream" presses. But we both know these exist, so I don't really know what you're asking for.
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Waterstones booksellers page for various editions of Rupert H. Wheldon's one book - or two books combined into one book: No Animal Food; and Nutrition and Diet; with Vegetable Recipes
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Oh, huh, interestingly, the original version was not a copyvio, only the final one. Someone came along at some point and replaced the entire thing with copyvio. Here's the original:
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Thank you for making these articles and contributing to the improvement of Knowledge. I do not have any companies to suggest however there are many suggestions for new articles here
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as a section. And then you wouldn't have to argue about it being notable, etc. And in time the subject could perhaps accumulate sufficient citations to make argumentation moot.
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So, yes, that can be restored, if you like. It would allow the date of creation to be 2011, if that makes any difference to anyone, and for the original creator to get credit.
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pseudoscience, I'd add that to the article. But unfortunately, there are no reliable sources criticizing the concept (because it is so irrelevant that hardly anyone outside
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Nenadic S. Obituary: Leah Leneman (1944-1999). Volume 20 Issue 1, Page 1-2, ISSN 0269-5030 Available Online February 22, 2011. (https://doi.org/10.3366/sesh.2000.20.1.1).
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There are many physicists who consider string theory and the many-worlds interpretation to be mostly pseudoscience, largely because they are untestable. Most prominently
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I should have been more specific when I said there's nothing you can do to fix that. There actually are things you could do: You could provide sources which prove that
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I think former vegetarians is on topic, I am not sure about the other two. In regard to the "Open tasks" section, we should merge that content into the other sections.
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AudioBooks PAID site for listening to No Animal Food and Nutrition and Diet with Vegetable Recipes, Unabridged Audiobook (January 2015, Duration: 3 hours 39 minutes)
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into the internet and a check on Google books and academic journal searchers such as JSTOR reveals nothing. Obituaries of Levins do not mention he was a vegetarian.
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The North American Vegetarian Society (NAVS) was founded in 1974. It is a none-profit educational organization. Two of the major objectives of the organizations are
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Perhaps the vegan cookbook Knowledge article author would like to write about him. I found around 2400 references on GoogleSearch, but they are for the same books:
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small article (the birth and death dates match up, as well as the middle initial), seems that he might have been a photographer? It also matches with ancestry.com
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is pseudoscience: it claims to be scientific (and its proponents use jargon that sounds scientific), but one can't derive testable predictions from it. See
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All references to diet and nutrition should be omitted from the main article. Vegan nutrition should be a stand-alone article, cross-linked with veganism.
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Thirdly, a thorough search for citeable sources should be carried out (prior to editing) to support and verify any factual statements made in the article.
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_No_Animal_Food__The_Road_to_Veganism_in_Britain__1909-1944.pdf pp 219-228. Society and Animals. Vol.7, No. 3, 1999. The White Horse Press, Cambridge, UK
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Editors, for example, are asserting that a diet is not a reason to categorize a list and this was recently argued for the 4th time with no consensus at:
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mention the vegan diet and vegan nutrition when they discuss veganism. Only if they didn't was there a policy that would justify your deletion, namely
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I'm not quite clear on what's being claimed. Is the suggestion that the article should be deleted because there aren't enough hits on Google Scholar?
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I was deeply disappointed to see today that the article I created on September 7, not even 20 days ago, was nominated for deletion. Please comment on
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I haven't had any sleep in 2 days. I will go to sleep now but tomorrow evening I will create the Rupert H. Wheldon with everything source I have.
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were also fish eaters and many early vegetarian Theosophists were. Can you be a vegetarian and consume fish? Well that debate still exists today
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I think that we can favor not eating animals without idealizing or idolizing those who refrain from eating animals in ways that set them up for
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Secondly, administrators should hold back their urge to revert an editor's work until an edit is completed, and discuss any contentious edits.
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Nice one on tracking down the death date. I'm struggling to find any information about Wheldon, other than the sources you've already linked
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Unfortunately, I've not had any luck finding one. It's hard to find much information about Williams in general, other than his ODNB article.
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LibriVox site for downloading the audiofile of No Animal Food and Nutrition and Diet with Vegetable Recipes by Rupert H. Wheldon (1883 - )
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named professorships? There's always some other line you want to rush to hide behind, isn't there?) Mainstream academic publishers like
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reliable source on the internet mentions his vegetarianism so I don't think we can improve his article in relation to this WikiProject.
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and so forth. In my recent struggle to include speciesism in the Discrimination article, I saw very few supporting comments despite my
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published Wheldon's paper in 1920. I had purchased a number of her books over the decades of my being vegan because Freya Dinshah of
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as well. Anyway, I thought I'd start the discussion here. I'm open to all suggestions and improvements. Hope to hear from you all. --
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Yep, it's exactly what the first paragraph of the page the ref links to. So, yeah, recreating from scratch is the only possibility.
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Firstly, the article should be edited strictly by vegans. Non-vegan editors lack a comprehensive understanding of vegan principles.
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advises. If you you have a problem with a particular editor, try their talk page or the Knowledge dispute resolution mechanisms.
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List of films and movies treating veganism and/or vegetarianism (or related themes, topics, ideas, values, behaviors) as a topic
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Vegetarian theorists (nutritionists, advocates, vegetarian religious leaders, vegetarian worldview developers, et al.) - cf.
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That certainly appears to be the suggestion. It is interesting to note that the examples of "minor concepts" provided above,
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Administrators should be aware of the project, and of the editors involved, ideally as part of the team. Any vegan admins?
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Anatomical argument for veganism - there seems to be a long (recurring?) history of debating various forms of its claims.
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I wonder if a notice list or other tribute to editors who have died would be appropriate somewhere on the project page?
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Johnson L. The religion of ethical veganism. Journal of Animal Ethics (Vol. 5, Issue 1). University of Illinois Press.
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GoodReads.com author page for Robert H. Wheldon's book, No Animal Food and Nutrition and Diet with Vegetable Recipes
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I am not familiar if and how Gandhi had personal preferences outside the norm for the culture in which he lived.
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spoke to her by email a few times. SlimVirgin did much valuable work on veganism related articles. A lot of the
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If you think that if there's a Knowledge article about a theory, it can't be a fringe theory, you're wrong. See
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Throughthemind put this on the list. Rupert H. Wheldon was an early vegan who authored an early vegan cookbook
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Bull in a China Shop: Animals in the Workplace. Note Chapter 5—"Vegetarian and Vegan Workplace Discrimination"
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Sure! I'll keep looking for more characters as time goes on, but I think what I put together is a good start.
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Page DP. Veganism and sincerely held 'religious' beliefs in the workplace": No protection without definition.
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The list of Articles to be created' is not being tackled. Current list (which I recently alphabetized) is:
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How can these 'future tasks' (punch list) be better/best/optimally organized (for service to our mission)?
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What are the Knowledge standards for finding and using photographs of historical persons who have passed??
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tradition would overlap the discussions in that book (as it touched intermittently upon vegetarianism).
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is not a fringe idea, you could provide sources which prove that it is an established term outside the
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is not testable and it is unfalsifiable. The same for the some multiverse theories, string theory etc
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Parsons D. Where's the Beef? The High Court Renders Its Decision. Los Angeles Times. June 9, 1996.
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be part of that needless risk to the credibility of our moral and ethical beliefs and practices.
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and WP:PROVEIT]]). Please note that it is best to discuss points about content on the talk page
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I hope that someone (else) will make the effort to bring back that article, or those articles.
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has four times as many, and there are non-fringe (but rarely used) terms that have fewer, e.g.
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As far as I can see, this has firmly crossed the line into trolling, and so I am disengaging.
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there is a note from Elmer Lee, M.D., Editor, Health Culture Magazine. Elmer Lee was a vegan
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has 579 results on Google Scholar. For comparison with other minor concepts, I checked a few
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article..." This very much sounds like you consider all of these content disputes (e.g.
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are vegan? Many websites say they are but there is no mention of it on their articles.
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since food and nutrition are aspects of veganism (and any vegan's life), and because
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and keep their articles updated as long as they qualify for inclusion in the project.
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will not in itself justify making everything else about a person 'morally normative
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article looks good thanks for your help with it. Unfortunately no photograph yet.
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so the page can be saved! The more people who comment, the better. Thanks!
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for "animal–industrial complex" (but e.g. six for "anthropomorphism").
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I do not know whether any of these people are vegetarians or vegans.
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but it is not working, so something is not right. Any ideas?
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predictions that are testable by experiment or observation."
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to inform the public about the importance of vegetarianism
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