2336:." without any source in the four years of their existence are a disgrace. "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion". If this material is the bulk of the article, the article should just go. G10 is quite clear about this: "a biography of a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral version in the page history to revert to. Administrators deleting such pages should not quote the content of the page in the deletion summary, and if the page is an article about a living person it should not be restored or recreated by any editor until it meets biographical article standards." If you don't like the deletions, either recreate it as a decent, well sourced article (it is not as if I deleted a long page for one line of negative unsourced claims: the articles were stubs where the negative material was the essence), or take it to DRV. I will continue my scanning of as many BLPs as I can find, tagging the thousands of unsourced BLPs, and I will continue the deletion of all unsourced articles about supposed war criminals, nazi camp guards, porn artists, priests involved in sex scandals, and so on. All of you are welcome to write well-sourced articles about these persons, but I find it utterly amazing that all of you care so much about these articles
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add details, which I did. I then found it had been removed with the aggressive comment of 'blatant advertising'. So why weren't the other similar entries from similar companies within the same article faced with the same rejection and abuse? My entry was simple straightforward explanation of what the company did. There was no soliciting for business. I had been impressed with
Knowledge in the past, but this is sad. It was the first and the last time I try to contribute. I can only guess the selective nature of this administration was based on commercial preferences. Regards
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try to "salvage" an article with serious BLP violations when we can much easier delete it, and someone with real interest in it and knowledge of it can then create a good stub from scratch? What is lost by not having an article for a while? We didn't have the article for years, we still have glaring holes in our coverage of all kinds of everything, but these few articles, who no one could be bothered to clean in four years time, are so important that we cannot miss them for a few hours, days or weeks? The logic escapes me.
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the third paragraph on the prime minister of Rwanda and you have stub worthy of keeping---heads of state are worth keeping. Delete the second sentence in the other article, and move the allegation to just before his acquital, and you remove the BLP concern on an otherwise notable individual---Minister of
Transport and Communications of Rwanda. Very little effort and both articles are salvagable. An existing stub on notable individuals is better than no article.---
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2843:. The most recent history page is filled with reverts of IP's. (BTW..The Sarah Palin article gets protected at the drop of an off-color hat. Right now it is protected for a month!). While I may have at one time been against protection, in general, I'm sure that you would agree how tedious and annoying it can be. Also, vandalism threatens Knowledge's reputation as a quality professional site. What can be done to "treat" this dangerous condition.--
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1647:. And a sentence like "they deliver a tailored service to ensure well-functioning stages, practical backstage facilities, comfortable auditoria and excellent audience circulation areas." is pure advertising. I'm sorry if this will mean that you will stop contributing, but we are an encyclopedia, not a list of all companies, and the article contained no encyclopedic information whatsoever (History? Achievements?). Please also check
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been unsourced for years without being tagged. For the limited number of those that make serious negative allegations which are the major part of the article, the best solution is to delete them until someone comes along who wants to recreate it from scratch as a well-sourced article. You and everyone who has complained is free to be the creator of these acceptable articles: but I will not undelete any serious BLP violations.
1871:. Please go ahead and check user me whatever that may be and let me edit as I've always done - with an edit summary that is right in 99.9% of the cases and a clean record over all. I mean - I gave a false edit summary once and of course that is no good thing but my edit summary gives options of my older edit summaries every time a type a word and so I could have accidently put in a wrong one.
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1779:, our main policy on this, states (in "Self-published and other questionable sources") that "self-published books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, knols, forum postings, and similar sources are largely not acceptable to cite in Knowledge." Knowledge is an open wiki, so it is not acceptable to cite Knowledge (or a copy of it) as a source for another Knowledge article.
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performing the CSD should do this before deleting, but I know that's what should be done. If you aren't going to do the search yourself, then simply remove the contentious content. G10 is not a blanket exception allowing for the deletion of valid articles that have BLP concerns. BLP does not call for deletion of articles of otherwise notable individuals with BLP concerns.---
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so apart from highlighting some problems I will not be of much use. If you would want some assistance for any particular problems, I am always willing to help, but I will not make a serious effort to source all these articles. If I ever get finished with the tagging, I may take on the sourcing of a few categories of articles closer to my heart (like comics-related articles).
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War, the fleeing
Belgians spoke Flemish, not Dutch. This is the kind of pretentiuosness of Dutch-oriented editors that prevent a simple mention of anything remotely Flemish. Months ago, I had a very lengthy and uncomfortable confrontation with the editor that reverted my attempt at clarity. I don't want to start another if I am off-base (wrong). Thank You. --
1743:"Anything on other language Wikipedias is just as free to use as anything here, so feel free to translate and use at will. It definitely won't get deleted for any copyright reasons, and the question of notability is helped by having articles in other languages. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 14:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)"
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recycle? So, they killed a lot of trees for no good reason. POD books will be printed only after a reader orders it, sometimes, Amazon or the publishers may stock a small quantity of the books that sell well. So, POD books will have a much smaller environmental impact than the books published by traditional publishers.
1513:(although a mention at the top would be more visible and obvious). And every editor willing to look for good sources and taking civil criticism so positively is a benefit for Knowledge, so welcome! By the way, I don't know if you noticed the page yet, but an admin has created a page with pageview statistics.
1811:... so you think I am a sockpuppetteer, how nice is that! Why did you not tell me, I mean - you made those comments on me over a week ago. How am I linked to vandals - all I do is promoting some articles of a Native American figure, is that such a terrible thing to do? This seems like overreacting to me.
781:(I'll reply in English :-) ) I'll try to keep an eye on him. If he (or she) would only try to discuss the edits, we might get somewhere... As for blocking: the edits are not bad enough (or frequent), and he is using a number of other IP's anyway, so a block may be a nuisance to him but won't stop him.
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page came up on my machine on two different occasions as a cut-and-paste of the sandbox page under a bizarre title. The text that's currently up on the article was not what I'd deleted. Might have been a computer glitch on my end, but all I know is what I saw and that's what I based my decision on.
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Hi, you recently renamed the page to have a lower case "h" for hotels instead of a capital "h". Clicking on a link to the upper case version does not automatically redirect you to the renamed page but instead you get an intermediate page with the link to the lower case version. Is there any way you
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Could you please elaborate on your deletion of our page 'Cobent
Limited'. I can understand why based on the reason that it is a 'Company page' - which is fair enough if it was applied to all companies. I am just abit puzzled as to why a competitor company's wiki page has not been delete given that it
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on a supposed Al Qaeda member: created in 2005, it was tagged as needing references since 2006: it should have been deleted long ago, but no one could be bothered. We have a two-year backlog on articles tagged as "unsourced": about one in twelve of those are BLPs. We have many more articles that have
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Hi. I've noted your comments a few weeks ago and earlier today. I recall agreeing with you on some issues previously and posting replies to that effect. I'd like to assure you that I'm a reasonable fellow and that I'm back with a sincere interest in doing what's right for the project; this has always
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As I've tried to tell you, Fram, I have never intentionally vandalised anything! All I have ever done has been done in good faith. I came to this website to edit seriously. I have removed a citation template because I saw the statement made in the article already was covered by the given references -
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I need your advice. Please refer to the Dutch (ethnic group) article/Modern Era section and one of my edits of Nov 7th . Would it not be factual that those
Belgians that fled into The Netherlands spoke various Flemish dialects rather than Dutch. Am I wrong to think that at the time of the First World
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Traditional publishers use off-set printing, i.e., they need to print a large quantity (for example, 2,000 to 5,000 copies) for each print run. The problem is 90% of the books published by traditional publishers. What are they going to do with all these books that they cannot sell? Throw them away or
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No worries, the current backlog for unsourced articles is nearly two and a half years, so there's no rush :-) I'm going through all the stubs, country by country, and afer having pfinished India I am now at
Indonesia. It is, in all honesty, just drive-by tagging, I'm not even watchlisting the pages,
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Crudo: you deleted it as Crudo band at 03:38 the 16th. It was at that time only one minute old, and did not contain any wikilinks. The names included in it were pretty well known and easily wiki-searchable (or googlable). For attack pages and truly non notable A7s (X is the greatest girl alive!) and
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A new stub without a history full of BLP violations is better than keeping the history. Compare it to an article with extensive copyright violations throughout the history: we don't trim it down to a copyright free version, we delete it completely, even if it is about a notable subject. Why would we
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That article, which is about a real person and events, probably should be deleted as it is solely about the incident, he has zero notability outside the allegation of being involved in a terrorist organization. The two cited above, could have been tweaked with minimal effort. Eg delete the most of
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Obviously speedy deletions can be misapplied and misused. I have tagged over 2,000 articles as unsourced BLPs in the last few weeks, and a few hundred or so more as simply unsourced. I have deleted only a big handful of those. It is better to lack a few correct but unsourced articles, than to have a
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In general, every page needs to have their own sources. Other
Knowledge pages canget changed, people can get added to your list where the corresponding Wiki page is not adequately sourced, ... The list can stay without sources, it will not get deleted for that reason, butit would be better if it was
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Although I had contribued before to other articles, admittedly this is the first time I actually created one from scratch and left it a couple of days. For that I apologize. I have updated the article and I hope it meets the basic standards at least. If there is anything that needs to be improved
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It's late here, and I'm working full-time for the next few days, but I think the referencing/linking needs serious cleanup too. I'm not strictly clear on image link policy, but I'm fairly sure it's not considered good practice to hyperlink out to lots of photos on random websites just so we know (in
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The traditional publishers are NOT better than self-published books, in fact, they are NOT sensitive to market demand, and take too long to produce books, and most of them do not sell anyway. The main purpose of a book is to provide good information to readers in a timely manner. What is the point
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I am disappointed to see you speedily deleting articles because of BLP. Though I know this is the policy, you should have looked for sources. I am positive you would have found at least enough to keep the articles you just deleted, if only in a seriously paired down state. Now, it is unlikely those
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I can understand that. My experience in
Flanders is that people identify as Flemish, Belgian, ... (taking often different identifications, being both Flemish and Belgian and so on), but never Dutch (excepting those of clearly recent Dutch ancestry, and someof those supporting the unification of the
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I would not alphabetize it, e.g. the last two entries should stay at the end. Similarly, I would not alphabetize the categories, although I would put the category "Moses" first (and probably remove it from the "see also" section). The "further reading" section is an example of an alphabetized list
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Wow, I didn't see that . While you are right, I have to say that that is a very hard to spot reference. Clearly reliable obviously, part of ESPN so no problem there. No objection to my tags being removed when the infobox is sourced, but could you find a way to make that ref easier to find (a notes
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and added names of some people who had lived in this city to it , but you said they are "unsourced", I wanted to say that if you go to pages related to each of those people in wikipedia , you could see that they are from
Lahijan. so Why should I give more refrences ? If I cite the wiki pages of
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Hello, I am new to
Knowledge, but was researching an article recently about a new opera house which mentioned the key firms involved in its design, development and building. Each one had a link describing the company concerned, but one link for a company I knew well was empty with an invitation to
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To follow up: I wasn't the first to have deleted the "Shannon Marie" entry. NawlinWiki had done so just before I did. I remember deleting something regading "crudo," but the link you sent wasn't what I deleted, or even would have. I do admit that I may have been a little trigger-happy on that
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I don't care about the articles, I care about the people who go around deleting articles that shouldn't be deleted. Speedy Deleters can be as big of a bain to the project as the vandals they are trying to protect the project from. Careless/hasty speedy deleters (and I am not saying that you are
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but haven't looked at G10 yet. The deletion of these two articles IMO are further examples of over eager deleters, which is what gives CSD a bad name. Both of these articles are worthy of keeping... yes, the BLP concerns could, no should be deleted, until sourced. In an ideal world, the person
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Since our policy currently says that G10 deleted articles "should not be restored or recreated by any editor until biographical article standards.", and since we don't agree on this yet, I will not restore them. But I urge you to reconsider your decision. Also, I urge you to be more careful with
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would help, but certainly when you hace words like "tessarae" or "kiln", a link is useful (even if it is a redlink, then at least we know that it needs an article :-) ). Don't get me wrong, it is an interesting article, and very well sourced, but it could use a lot of work, and can still use some
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Not really. Pages are only marked that are taken under "the Empire's" wing. Look past the corny empire thing and please see the true potential of this project. Imagine a Knowledge where every page has a guardian, and you will understand my project. The Empire bit is just to make it more enjoyable
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and his failed drugs test and sponsorship. They were provided in an external link which I have turned into a reference. I hope this is helpful to you and the article itself. I would advise you to please read through the article carefully which fully explains his failed drugs test, his fine and
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As for the current state of the article: while it is a lot better than a few months ago, it is not very good still. Way too many images for starters, no really logical structure, Culture and History sections which aren't truly started yet... There is a lot more information than there was a while
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Hello, Fram. Can you take a look at the above and my suggestion of today? I believe it is a better explanation and clearer Lead. I feel it is necessary to inform the reader of the subtle and yet important difference between Flemish and Dutch. The "Dutchification" of everything Belgian/Flemish is
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The only thing I can imagine that would excuse it (apart from being a true story after all, which is very doubtful) is that he created the page from a request on "request for article creation" (I don't know the exact name, so can't link it, butwe do have something like that floating around). If
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No thanks, I'm not interested. If you behave reasonably, I'll leave you well alone. Your behaviour (pre-block I mean) was appalling, even if we agreed on some aspects of the fiction discussions. I don't like White Cat at all (as an editor here, I have no idea what kind of person he is and it is
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Hello Fram. I have an idea (see light bulb above my head). Instead of arguing with good faith editors at the Dutch (ethnic group) article, why not create a seperate Flemish (ethnic group) article. When a reader searches for Flemish in the Main list of Ethnic Groups the closest he/she can get is
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Because there is no such thing as those terms you explained above. Professional wrestling is a complex thing to understand, and this is one of them, organizations list the holders of the titles as "Champion" because they reflect the name of the actual championship. You wouldn't say List of WWE
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series. There is currently a discussion concerning the merging of all individual articles on Smurf video games into one bigger article. I do not believe that any of the editors involved in the discussion (myself included) know much about the games and I was hoping you could provide us with the
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Thanks! The source you give there is at first glance a very good one, a Museum website should be reliable and relevant for the subject. As for Nationmaster Encyclopedia, normally they reference Knowledge at the very bottom of the page, in small grey print, so I think that is nominally allright
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I have no objection to the existence of self-publishers, and can see why people use it. That does not mean that we should accept such sources as reliable sources though, since the risk of unreliable information in such sources is much higher. If I find evidence that a self-published source has
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A separate article about the Flemish group may be useful, but I don't like articles about ethnic groups in general, since these labels are becoming more and more meaningless. However, whether we ave that article or not, the article on the Dutch should contain correct and balanced info, not the
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14:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC) I have followed your contribs and will try - but it will take ages - the issue is that in many cases english deprived eds add stubs with nothing to support them as a copy from the id project. There seems no acknowledgement in that project to utilise anything that
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Funny how everyone now is so concerned about these articles, but couldn't be bothered to do anything about them in the years they were unsourced BLP violations. I will not be more careful with deletions in the future, articles that start with "He is chiefly known for his alleged role in the
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Bayan Knights premiered Nov. 22 and is considered a milestone in Philippine Comics history as the first time a single comic involves creations of individual authors are joined as a team with individual rights retained. Admittedly the article is a work in progress, however the notability is
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two countries). So I beleive that while an article on the Dutch as an athnic group should mention (at length) that while a number of people believe that Flemings are part of the group, many people disagree with this, both among the Flemish and among the independent researchers / literature.
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Sorry, Fram, comments were addressed to you because I thought yours were addressed at me. My recent wiki-experience is dominated by nutcase users and negativity, and I'm seeing things like that too quickly. I'll remove the whole correspondence, if you don't mind, as it's a distraction. :)
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You removed the reference to NationMaster claiming it is a copy of Knowledge. Obviously it can't be an exact copy of Knowledge since it has additional information on some topics that Knowledge doesn't have. Even the Knowledge article on NationMaster says they take data from many sources:
369:. I don't say that is the most important, but I edit this image in order to have images linked to some companies which have often no images. And I put this image before developping two or three lines about Casterman. But... What do you think of this page in general? Now? Sincerely,
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My experience is different: I am a book reviewer for bookpleasures, and I have read many books. Most of the self-published books that I read are of high quality, they are simply published via a different channel. The authors for these books put in a lot of time and effort.
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The IP address' user page is now semi-protected, so that should choke this guy off. I'm a little annoyed, since I gave the guy a chance to demonstrate some good faith and he stomped on it. To put it another way, he threw his shoes at us. However, it should have been expected.
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received mainstream attention or is used as a reference by reliable sources or publications, then we have established that said self-published source is of sufficient quality or importance to be included. This is however the execption to the default position of excluding them.
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case we've weak powers of imagination) what wolfberries look like in a bowl of rice or a cup of hot water. Also, too many links to commercial sites ... HTML hyperlinks for internal Knowledge text ... and news stories in External links that aren't actually used as references.
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It is obviously illogical for an administrator to say I can use a source, , and actually encourage it, and then say I can't cite it. I do believe you erred when you deleted my citation to French Knowledge. There is no question of faulty or ambiguous translation in a date.
2239:. You had two years to do something about this blatant BLP violation, but you blame me? You can be disappointed as much as you like, but don't blame me for acting according to one of our most funcamental policies while you pointedly ignored it for at least two years.
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few incorrect negative BLPs. My speedies were not "hasty", the articles had existed for years without anyone bothering to add even one source to them. They were not "works in progress" that were deleted before the editor(s) had a chance to finish them. Take e.g.
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one, I've not looked at your other deletions) need to be curbed. (There are a few admins that I know of who speedy just about everything regardless of whether or not it fits the proper criteria---take a look at the reviews I did on A1 and G1 deletions.)---
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the one that put it there in the first place has not thoroughly read those and is to blame. And I made a redirect which I considered appropriate - so what? That does not sound like any serious vandalism in my eyes! I've even made an article here recently,
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You recently tagged this article as requiring a cleanup. I'm happy to attempt this (for example I have expanded the lead para to include definition and order), but it would be helpful if you could let me know what aspects particularly need cleaning up.
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outside aticles which deal directly with the subject at hand. To use it here would be an illustration, not a necessity to better understand the article. Of course Casterman and Tintin and Hergé are very famous, no need to convince me (hey, I wrote the
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in May 2007. Although the article may have failed to express it, this is a notable firm. I am not sure what condition the article was in when it was deleted. It would be great if you could restore the text as a subpage in my user space
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Of course it would be much, much better if people created better articles, but how can you expect people to learn this if their first honest effort gets instantly deleted, in some cases as vandalism with a warning to never do such thing
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I don't mean to point an accusation but I think the Dutch have a difficult time understanding the position of the Flemish. It has to do with their self-proclaimed feelings of superiority, IMHO. I will copy this idea to SPQRobin for his
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Knowledge is a self-published encyclopedia, does it mean it is not as good as the traditional encyclopedia? You are an editor for Knowledge, does it mean you are not as good as an editor for traditional encyclopedia? Think about it.
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benefit of your opinion as an editor knowledgeable about the subject. If you are not interested in helping or if you believe yourself incapable at this time then please disregard this message. The discussion is currently under way
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About Conficker: you deleted it as A1, not enough context. You could have deleted it as A3 (lack of content) or A7 (webcontent), but the context was there, Conficker is a computer virus. And somewhat notable, with 300 pageviews a
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Hi! This article, which you deleted under G11 at 12:25 GMT today, is back already. What's the best appraoch here - to keep tagging for speedy, or to take it to AFD (and risk there'll be no consensus to delete), or what?
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I have dealt with both traditional publishers and "self-published" publisher. The traditional publishers only pay author one or two dollars per book, how can you attract talented writers if you only pay them that little?
2274:. These facts were not disputed. I have seen many articles regarding ethnic conflicts, and when they're as fair as these two articles, then we can consider ourselves lucky! Deleting such articles does Knowledge no good.
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is for articles that "serve no purpose but to disparage or threaten their subject". This clearly is not the case for either of the articles. Naturally, they contained some critical statements, but what do you expect?!
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utterly irrelevant), but how you treated him was despicable. You are unblocked, you can edit productively now, but that does not mean that I'll change my opinion of you or have any interest whatsoever to chat with you.
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Knowledge is a self published encyclopedia, and Knowledge is not considered a reliable source by Knowledge itself. Furthermore, my position on self published sources is the standard Knowledge policy, as established in
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It does make our life easier. The final edits of Jouke and the IP were so similar that anyone who wold wonder if it couldn't have been truly a school admin will have no doubts left about the validity of either block.
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That is because of the bias that "advanced" users develop against these sort of new ideas. Why don't you tag the Knowledge Fun Committee with deletion? Oh, because its an established idea. Give my idea a chance as
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Fram thanks for helping at CFS, IP 88.97.5.228 now editing article also, controversial and non medrs without discussing, is also London, same as the 87 IPs probably same person. I agree about semiprotect. Thx,
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I was going through the new pages. Since the other companies did not have new pages, I never looked at them. We have 2.5 million articles, I can harly check them all. As for the article: the company is not
3619:(go to Museum Gallery, and then to Eye of Tyr). I did not compare the earlier article with the new one until now, so I had not noticed this problem yet. We really need an explanation from Lifebaka...
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I intend to remove most of them, because in most cases, the article is a one-line stub, and the single sentence is a prosification of the infobox, which does have a reference attached at the bottom.
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All lists have the "C" in Champions capitalized because the "Champion" is apart of the name of the Championship. ECW Tag Team Championship is the name and the holders were ECW Tag Team Champions. --
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okay man, i've had it with you and wikipedia - i left, don't bother banning me but if you can't resist, then go ahead and bring it on! you guys gave me a hard time, i'm done with this shit. see ya!
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You may be right though... I found an old version of this page on Knowledge that is identical to the one on NationMaster. So the NationMaster page may be a copy of this older version of the page. --
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The edit summary does not mention either "Flemish" or "removal". I have no idea who removed the Frisians or why, and have no objections to reinserting them, but your summary was clearly misleading.
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And the new article is significantly similar to the old one, so we may have a GFDL problem as well, and a copyright violation problem. The article was deleted (by me) as a copyright violation from
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Hello I have updated the Nick Danger and the Danger City Rebels page and added sources and I was wondering if you could coach me a bit on this article as I am new to writing on Knowledge. - Jamie
3602:) and you moved it because Tyr wasn't capitalized. Those 2 edits are deleted, the first non-deleted edit is from Lifebak and the edit summary says 'starting article'. Can you make sense of that?
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I did not mislead anyone. The edit summary notes that "as explained in article" the Flemish are more than a mere related people, whereas the Frisians were removed (why?) and I'm reinstating them.
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Hi! I noticed that you speak Dutch. If you get a chance, could you take a look at this article? I'm not sure which language it is in, or if the subject is notable enough for an article. Thanks!
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Ik heb gezien dat je ook overhoop ligt met 212.68.199.178, kunnen we die niet ergens aangeven voor permanente blokkering? Die werkt mij zodanig op de zenuwen dat ik er grijs haar van krijg. --
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with a new entry tagged on at the bottom: this entry should either be removed (and it does look like a not very scientific book anyway), or if kept included at the correct spot in that list.
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that's the case, then he just AGF too much and didn't check enough, which is slightly careless but not a serious mistake. I hope this is the case, otherwise I would indeed raise it at ANI.
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Thanks, that will do. Normally, something should be bolded at the start of the intro, but with lists, this is sometimes harder to achieve in a natural way. Thanks for all the work on this!
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Yes, Nationmaster is a copy of an old Knowledge version (often from 2005). I have not checked the origin of this Natinamster article, but all these articles are straight Knowledge copies.
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You are free to translate articles (or parts of them) from other Wikipedias, as long as you indicate that you have done so. However, that does not mean that Knowledge (or any wiki) is a
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The article I was currently working on for Bayan Knights has been deleted with the reason: "Bayan Knights" (A7 (web): No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion)
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Thanks for your involvement in this discussion. My vantage point is as a Fleming living in the USA for 50+ years. We considered ourselves either Flemish or Belgian, but never Dutch. --
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As well as the automatic notification I've told him his behaviour is being discussed on the AfD. In fact, I am just wondering when it should be brought up at ANI. What do you think?
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and get more opinions. And Fram, I agree with you on some of these, but when a stub has been around for years, and no one else has complained about it, sometimes it's better to do a
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I think it is best to take it to AfD. The article has a number of sources and some claims to notability. If it is kept at AfD, so be it. It needs to be moved and cleaned of course.
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As for your email: I prefer discussing things in the open, the good with the bad (apart from privacy issues). We should not hide our disagreements, errors, ... from other editors.
3735:. Everything that needed to be done was removing the sandbox header. It may have been a glitch, but the current text is the text you deleted. And deleted as G3 vandalism as well...
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because of a recent essay I wrote on CSD.) One of the things I've been looking at lately are the way in which our CSD system is being abused and misused. I've already looked at
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been my intent. Perhaps we could chat a bit? Email's fine, if you prefer. I've had quite a bit of dialogue with a great many folks prior to my return; talk does wonders. Cheers,
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