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Trilobita probably deserves it's own section in the main article given it's distinct order. 5) Xiphosura, due to it's position in the phylogenetic tree, probably also deserves it's own section in the main article. 6) Eurypterida, due to it's position in the phylogenetic tree, probably also deserves it's own section in the main article. 7) Eurypterida probably should be indicated as extinct with the ā , based on the article it is linked to.
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Did anybody else notice that the second sentence says "All arachnids have eight legs," while the very first sentence of the first section (anatomy) starts off with "Almost all adult arachnids have eight legs." Even though the second sentence of the article comes with the qualifier that the front legs
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I was reading this article today - very nicely written by the way - and I noticed several inconsistencies that I thought I would point out and let someone else correct (since this is not my article I didn't want to do it). I hope I'm not being to forward or nasty - I'm only trying to improve the
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A leg is typically defined by its function, not its appearance. Plenty of spiders look like they have 10 legs (tarantulas), but they are still described as having 8 legs. Many jumping spiders use their front legs for sensory functions, but they still walk with them as well. Unless you know of a
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Thus, by my reckoning (and assuming the ā is a reference to extinct), the following corrections should be made: 1) Acarina should be made consistent with Acari - no preference which. 2) Haptopoda needs a place on the phylogenetic tree. 3) Phalangiotarbi needs a place on the phylogenetic tree. 4)
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However, the phylogenetic tree looks like this: ā Trilobita
Xiphosura Eurypterida Arachnida Scorpiones Opiliones Pseudoscorpiones Solifugae Acari Palpigradi Pycnogonida ā Trigonotarbida Ricinulei Araneae Amblypygi Uropygi Schizomida
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