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2,950 students, the 3200 figure will of course be taking into account the two new senior schools plus the extra enrolments in Pre-Senior etc however they have not been officially published (and wont be until january), I would say that the enrolment should read 2,950 as that is the last "official" enrolment figure published, in terms of making it the largest independent school in Victoria that is definately not correct because a) Wesley has a higher official enrolment and b) Haileybury is actually registered as two seperate schools.
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replaced with a sentence or two: Haileybury offers students a wide range of sporting, musical and academic extra-curricular activities to participate, most included in tuition fees. Saturday sport is compulsory for all students ... Something else that could use attention is the third paragraph in the opening, but as it's late I'll leave that for another day. --
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I think we should take out the Facilities section as it is not encyclopedia needed information. The house system seems to be the same as most schools so maybe that should be removed as well. I suggest that we should clean it up and take out the unnecessary parts. Just wondering what you guys thought?
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The information that Haileybury was the largest school by enrolment first came from a book called "125 years of Caufield" by Helen Primrose. In this book she said that Haileybury was the largest with a population of 3,200, and Wesley the 2nd largest with a population of 2950. I have found that this
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Finally!! this list was ridiculous, and I'm convinced half of the activities listed aren't even offered (to the best of my knoweledge). Also Hearts & Wings is notable, it is now the official magazine for Prep-9, instead of the good old whole school magazine (just thought I would tell you as you
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I noticed that the page has been moved back do Haileybury College, Melbourne. I must stress that Haileybury includes both Haileybury College and Haileybury Girls College. If the article title is Haileybury College, Melbourne then Haileybury has stressed that it must not contain information relating
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Hi Guys... I'm a current student of Wesley College according to the College Roll & Staff List in this year Chronicle we receive at the end of each year it provides the names of 3511 students from k-12 from all 3 campuses. I presume this is the same as the enrollment figures, hope this helps!!!
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It's hard to reference the 2007 enrolment as that wont be published until after 2007. I would take the website information with a grain of salt as it hasn't been updated since the girls senior school began (which now accounts for nearly 300 enrolments). The corporate report 2006 makes reference to
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The sports facilities aren't that great at Haileybury, compared to Wesley College, I have been on a tour of Haileybury and Wesley recently for this article and Wesley seems to have newer / better facilities... however I think most of the schools listed in wikipedia needs a general clean up. If any
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While the facilities section is rather ordinary in its current state, I'd venture that after some heavy modification some information could stay. For example, Haileybury has an indoor 50m heated swimming pool with electronic timing - you can almost count the number of those in Victoria on one hand
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Yes, I find it very annoying. I was the one that changed the fees to that which the school has published and added the ref. Someone clearly feels that people should think that Haileybury is more expensive than it really is. I guess the only solution is to keep watching the article and continue to
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Just looked into it in detail, there is an option for international students to board at Castlefield during term. This is limited to a maximum of 12 students. While it has been set up for international students, it is also possible to board if you are from interstate. However I don't think this
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Absolutely. Thinking about the original intention of the list, and the reason it's become so large, I suppose it was akin to saying something about how many different activities are available to students outside of the (also large) number of subjects offered. Should it be deleted outright, or
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Again the page has been moved to Haileybury College,Melbourne. I must stress that this is not the correct title. The registered name is Haileybury, not Haileybury College as of 2003. I will move it back again however before I do so, if it sounds too much like a suburb then maybe it should be
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I agree that the article needs a great deal of work. Despite a hundred-year history, the history section jumps from 1892 to 1999, the facilities section is a rather pointless list, the students section is a list of suburbs and the house/pastoral section is of no use to individuals outside of
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This information is really relevant only to those who attend Haileybury and not the wider community, and while it is somewhat useful I don't beleive that it should be included, and if it is then similar entries should be made to Newlands, Castlefield and Senior School. Any Opinions?
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Haileybury may editing this article to suit their own needs. This article still contains a lot of unnotable and unnecessary information even though i have removed a lot already. This article is infact written like an advertisement with most of it belonging to school websites and
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Dear all, I would be doing a large clean up of this article in a weeks time to remove: unotable, unnecessary, advertisement like material, uncitated material, etc. In no more citations are added alot of this material i'm afraid does not belong here and will be removed.
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I have verified the leadership positions and they are correct, there will be no changes except for the addition of girls leaders on February 2nd, I have also neatened the leadership section as it was looking more like a gossip column than an encyclopedia.
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I think, due to recent events, that there should be a section about the speech held by Mr. Scott at assembly last Thursday about the new tradition. There is indeed a new tradition at Haileybury so it deserves to get a mention in this article .
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They say there's plans to re-open the senior college, but there is no figure that equals 3,200. They'd need to enrol another 830 students before they become the largest. (The largest is 3490!) I'm not sure if these figures are correct though
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one feels like it can they integrate the facilities section into the campuses sectiona s gummAy suggested, i have information on Wesley and Haileybury as I live close to them and I have a huge from the registrars of each school. Thank You!
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Well I have edited the school fees before, but somebody keeps chaning them back to the 2007 fees. For your information Haileybury has started the 2008 academic year in October 2007, therefore 2008 fees have applied for some time.
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It's way too long and reads like an advertisement or some promotional material you would expect to find on the school's page. It keeps reusing the same words and pronouns way too many times. It needs to be seriously cleaned up.
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Also according to the wikipedia page "List of Schools In Victoria" it states that Caulfield Grammar School is the 2nd Biggest then followed by Eumemmerring College the Haileybury with an enrollment of 2600. Merry Christmas!
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After much discussion with many librarians we have all come to the conclusion that this article is written way to much like an advertisement with the facility section etc. I want to get your thoughts on this matter.
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As a past student who has recently received the school report from 2007, the current number of students stands at roughly 3100 (exactly 3104 according to the report). It is expected to rise to 3500 in the near
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There is no Brighton campus, its clearly in Hampton, the border for Brighton and Hampton is south Road and Haileybury is on the hampton side. just another example of brighton trying to take over everywhere
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The Knowledge page claims that Haileybury has a student population that exceeds 3,200. I'm assuming this perhaps means 3,220 or something, but not as many as 3,500 - which is about Wesley's population.
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I've moved the page to Haileybury, Melbourne and while it sounds weird at first im sure the move is for the better. There are also links from Haileybury College, Melbourne and Haileybury Girls College
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qualifies Haileybury as a boarding school per say. Here is the public link for information www.haileybury.vic.edu.au/data/el_pool/FEES%20&%20CONDITIONS%20FOR%20INTERNATIONAL%20STUDENTS.doc
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OK, what is needed here is a reference! People have to have a reference that states Wesley has Y number of students and Haileybury has X number of students, not people saying random figures.
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Sorry for the ambiguous wording of my above remark. I made it after a stint of people kept readding a statement that Haileybury "stole" it from Xavier. I know well of its true origins :) --
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Just wanted an opinion as to whether the article should be renamed to Haileybury, Melbourne as the article incorporates both Haileybury College and Haileybury Girls College.
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I have myself made edits on this page, but it still sounds like an advertisement. The last two paragraphs sound like someone from the organisation has written them.
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figure is not correct; she did not include Wesley's Elsterwick Campus population (which goes from kinder - year 9) and adds another 450 students to the list!
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I count at least 15 reverts in recent times where the target was the line about school fees. The vandals are now even removing the entire references section.
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is a referece if anybody cares editing it, I'm not goign to put in any effort if it just gets changed by you guys again. Note that Year 9 is most expensive.
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We can all see that this is common in the Xavier and Haileybury crests, however can someone please find a source to show haileybury "took" it from Xavier?
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I have made a large deletion of non-notable content and advertising material from this article. Please do ot re-insert this kind of content unless it is
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Haileybury is a member of the APS. One of only eleven schools that have membership -- isn't this elite/prestigious? Why would it be tier two?
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Yes, but only tangentially in that the Haileybury (Melbourne) was founded by an alumni of Haileybury (UK) who got permission to use the name.
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I would argue that since borders make up such a small percentage of the student body, that their inclusion in the article should be minimal.
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I just recently changed the school fees to the published 2008 fees. It is just under $ 20K for years 10-12, and just above $ 10K for prep.
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given our recent findings that there are only 12 places available, is this a statement necessary to have in the introductory paragraph? --
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Hey Guys, Before anyone edits the enrolment number, go to www.haileybury.vic.edu.au. Then click on each of the campuses descriptions.
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Due to the passing of Dr. Robert Pargetter, Mr. Nicholas Dwyer has been appointed as acting Principal, this is reflected in the article.
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I think the list of sports captains is beyond the scope of an encyclopedic article, and should be left out of the article. Any opinions?
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Haileybury are no good at sport. Why would anyone want to know who their sports captains are? What is the point? Tier two school, too.
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Only via a historical connection; there's no financial or corporate connection beyond the name. (I'm an ex Haileybury student, FWIW.)
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https://web.archive.org/20140108031029/http://www.haileybury.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/5327/Statutory_Report_2012.pdf
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Haileybury claims to have an enrolment of 3,200 students. Wesley College has an enrolment of 3,500 students (Campus rolls.)
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http://www.haileybury.vic.edu.au/fs_secondary.asp?load=htm_NEWS.asp&Level1PageID=85&PageID=85&intNewsID=1052
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Can someone please provide a source that Haileybury is now a boarding school as per recent edits by 124.176.146.202 --
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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BRIGHTON: "Castlefield caters for approximately 700 students from the Early Learning Centre to Year 9."
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KEYSBOROUGH: "Today, Newlands has over 800 students and Senior School has approximately 600 students."
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Is there anything we can do to mitigate the amount of vandalism that this page is currently receiving ? -
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I think it is very appropriate and informative to include sport captains in the article. Any opinions?
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Thank you, that is a vast improvement to the article. I agree with your summary, and would also add
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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template
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Wow, that list is getting huge. Is it time to start considering a spilt, like they did o'er at
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haileybury has a new campus, city. I don't know how to edit so could someone do for me? Thanks
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Afterthought: Integrate the facilities with the campuses, it doesn't need its own section --
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http://www.haileybury.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/5327/Statutory_Report_2012.pdf
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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
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Haileybury is related to 'Haileybury and Imperial Service College', for the record. (
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revert. It's on my watch list. Glad someone else is doing something about it!
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The new tradition is the song Dr. Pargetter wrote, "For We Are Haileybury". --
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something along the lines of Haileybury (school), Melbourne. any thoughts?
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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add
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As a current student at Haileybury, I think I can safely say it's not.
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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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Could someone obtain an official enrolment count? :) Thanks.
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I think this section is poorly written. Can someone fix it?
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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Haileybury may editing this article to suit their own needs
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BERWICK: "Edrington caters for approximately 560 students"
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I have just added archive links to one external link on
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Please correct me if I'm wrong; I may very well be! :)
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I have removed the section on Senior School Leadership.
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I have removed the list of extracurricular activities.
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Is this annoying any one else? Is there a solution? --
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Does anyone know whether this place is connected to
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