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In 2002, Rose had completed a successful tour of Ireland with co-writer and guitarist Mickey Wynne and had a number of gigs planned around the UK. He died at Middlesex Hospital, London of a heart attack during a second operation for a lower bowel problem on September 24, 2002, at the age of 62. He is
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had all recorded fast-paced versions of the song. Rose's version (crediting himself as author), unlike the others, was a slow, angry ballad, which received US radio airplay and became a regional hit in the San Francisco area in 1966, as well as upstate New York cities like Buffalo and Albany.
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stockbroker and a teacher, got married, and eventually divorced. While working on Wall Street, he met Dennis Lepri, former lead guitarist for the folk rock group, Gunhill Road. They became friends and together collaborated on new material, performing in clubs throughout New York. After
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Rose and Elliot had musical differences โ€“ both were inclined to want things done their way โ€“ and the band fell apart after Elliot and Hendricks secretly married. They had appeared on a number of national television programs, including
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In 1972, he put together his short-lived LA band featuring: Michael 'Papabax' Baxter on keyboards, Shelly Scott on drums, Bob Zinner on guitar and Larry "Fuzzy" Knight on bass, to play the 'California concert halls and 'nite' spots'.
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in London and released in 1970. In addition to his musical career, by now Rose had moved to London and would spend much of his life there. Other albums followed in the decade: Another, different album titled
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By the mid-1970s, his career had stalled. In an attempted comeback Los Angeles music publisher/songwriter Richard D. Kaye, acting as Tim's manager in 1976, arranged studio time for Tim to record the album
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Rose was born in Washington, D.C., and raised by his mother Mary, who worked for the Army Corps of Engineers, his aunt, and his grandmother in an area known as South Fairlington Historic District, in
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was finally released. In 1996, encouraged by Cave and by Dutch film makers Suzan IJzermans and Jacques Laureys, he returned to Europe. Rose performed at the
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In April 2001, the Tim Rose Band was the opening act at the Bergen Blues and Jazz Festival in Norway. Jacques Laurey's biographical film about Rose,
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In 1968, while his song "Roanoke" was getting some airplay in the UK, Rose was considered while replacements were being selected for
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of Elektra contacted Dobson for permission, knowing she had written it, and that was how it came to be published by Nina Music, the
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in New York City, and released a similarly slow version in 1966 which became a huge hit, first in the UK, then worldwide. It was
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By the late 1980s, Rose had reached the lowest point in his career. After his marriage broke up, he gave up drinking. In 1986,
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After The Big 3, Rose went solo, and by 1966, his prospects had improved. In November of that year, he played two gigs at the
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and formed a folk trio with her and singer John Brown called The Triumvirate. Later, after Brown was replaced by
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and guitar, and won the top music award in high school. Rose graduated from Gonzaga College Prep School, a noted
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Rose re-recorded "Hey Joe" in the 1990s, re-titling it "Blue Steel .44", again claiming songwriting credit.
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in 1967, and played it live many times over nearly three decades, beginning with their performance at the
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featuring seven new Rose compositions and the title track "Unfinished Song" written by Kaye. He recorded
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in November 2011, where investigators look for descendants of deceased people who did not leave a will.
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In 1966, he was getting a lot of airplay with his version of "Hey Joe". It was written and had been
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Their success grew, with appearances on national television programs, and they recorded two albums:
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His first band was The Singing Strings, which included his friend McKenzie, who later joined with
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He had no children. A number of posthumous recordings featuring Rose have since been released.
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company set up by Holzman's wife Nina. A roadie introduced Fred Neil's version of the song to
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1979 - Rose guested on the single "Boys on the Dole" by Neville Wanker and the Punters
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This article is about the singer-songwriter. For the American football coach, see
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1973 โ€“ "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" / "It Takes a Little Longer"
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included "Long Time Man", a version very close to Rose's, on the album
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for TV commercials in early 1980. Rose sang on many jingles, including
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in San Francisco on January 14, 1967. It later became a rock standard.
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on the S.S. Atlantic and in a bank, before becoming involved in the
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in London with co-writer and guitarist Mickey Wynne. A new album,
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Rose worked in the late 1960s and 1970s with sidemen Bob Bowers,
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1966 โ€“ "I'm Bringing It Home" / "Mother, Father, Where are You?"
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did have a hit in 1953 with a song of the same title written by
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1975 โ€“ "The Musician" / "It's Not My Life That's Been Changin'"
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1970 โ€“ "I Gotta Get a Message to You" / "Ode to an Old Ball"
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signed Rose to a multi-album record deal; the first album,
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institution in DC, class of 1958. From there he joined the
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opening for Cave, and at the Shepherds Bush Empire and
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1966 โ€“ "I'm Gonna Be Strong" / "I Got a Loneliness"
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