953:. As you can see, after Michael's expansion (that took place on Jan. 9) the proposed DYK entry had so little in common with the original entry, that it was practically a new suggestion. As such, in my edit I moved it without altering to the new date (Jan 9), the date of Michael's reformatting it. The DYK-keeper admin then contacted me to point out that the entries are sorted not by the date of submissions but by the date of the article's creation. This is done for his convenience in selecting the featured entries among the proposed one since the article creation date is an important factor and the proposal submission isn't. At the same time he contacted Michael to let him know that when the entry suggestion is rephrased, both the new and the old variants should be presented.
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soliciting of ArbCom by a cabal of conspirators may influence it but I haven't seen that happening even a single time. ArbCom are very adamant about rules and procedures, its members try to build a wall between themselves, as arbitrators, and they meticulously check the evidence and the diffs. They judge based on the evidence only. Besides, none of the compliants advocated for a ban. I even mildly opposed it. I requested a ruling that would prevent any software abuse and undiscussed terminology substitution later backed by absentee voters/meatpuppets. It is ironic that the self-proclaimed patriot of
Ukraine and a crusader for his motherland uses absentee voter trick to rig the election. Sounds too familiar in view of recent History od UA
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with it. I average about an hour and a half per day, but my goal is about four hours per day. I was thinking about putting a notice on my userpage about being available only for a half hour at nights, because that an off-time I give myself, but I'm not sure. I'm hoping to become an administrator maybe in
February, and I'm not sure if I could be an admin and violinist. (In other words, if they would want an administrator who could only work that short amount of time.) Anyway, I'm using up more time...a valuable resource which attracts many robbers...--
131:, while it is condemnable to bring followers who don't know what they are doing from outside forums, I am afraid that you made your comment without knowing the context of what was going on for a while since AndriyK joined Knowledge. This became a subject of a scandalous Arbitration filed against this user by many members of the community, that includes the active Ukrainian editors who, prior to his arrival, were able to with reasonable success add to Knowledge the moderate Ukrainian views on the issues. For more see
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an article with a political POV, I simply warned that it will be tilted back using numerous methods, of which only ONE is to post requests on unrelated sites. I mean it could have well been
Russkiy Obraz, or Bandera.com or RNE or Kavkazcenter...or the French society of plumbers for all I care. The point is that bringing in voters from unrelated sites is not welcome. I chose websites that to me appeared as mirrors of Maidan. Так что давай в будущем стараться воздержаться от лишних замечаний. Ты сам откуда?
933:. Frankly, I appreciate your work here. An extra pair of hands and an extra pair of eyes is always helpful to us, especially in a state when there are so few editors concerned about Ukraine and a good quarter of those who join bring net-negative contribution by starting the naming wars, accusing opponents in all sorts of sins and otherwise wasting time of those who are prepared to contribute to articles, but have instead to do the damage control of the actions of those fellows. I
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Knowledge's talk pages are not usenet newsgroups where the idea is to geth the message through in the most voicefull form smearing the opponents if necessary. We discuss the articles and try to find how to improve them. I suggest that you always keep that in mind. Some well known trolls must be dealt with reprimands, warning and through administrative actions but until you have strong reasons to beleive that your opponent is one of them, you should remember to
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Relax, man. I have other things to do in my life rather than plotting anyone's expulsion from WP and within the limited time I have for WP (in sacrifice of other things I would have accomplished) I have so much on my to do list, that plotting some sophisticated feuds is out of the picture even if I would have wanted that (which I don't). That said, please edit
Knowledge and don't assault me anymore (or others for that matter). May I suggest you to read
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time constraint (72 hours only after the creation of the article), avoid starting the 2-3 sentence placeholder articles. The process should be fast. New article appears with an interesting trivia fact, the article gets quickly and roughly polished and proposed for DYK. There were only several of UA-related DYK's yet and they are very effective to bring
Ukrainian topics to prominence and much less time-consuming than FA's of which we only have one. --
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what you called "Russian imperial propaganda on the UA pages" precisely because our neighbors to the East are usually rather reasonable and accommodating to the presentation of the moderate
Ukrainian POV. I don't want to generalize over all Romanian and Polish editors of course but you are too fast labeling the Russian editors. I know exactly who you mean and I can show you many articles where we were able to find the compromise with precisely
1716:(noun). Good luck with your edits and lets hope that we both won't troll. Finally, Alex Bakharev, by agreeing for RfA is a fair game to spit on but your comment to node ue is highly offensive and inapropriate IMO. Please remove it if you change your mind. If this should not have been written by me, pls let me know. Otherwise, feel free not to respond. This time I came here to inform, rather than reprimand you. So, let's just edit. Regards, --
66:. Please start form the chapter "How the city name Днiпропетровськ is spelled in English" and read on to the end. Recently Bryndza commented there in the middle of discussion but please read the page to the end anyway. I am not here to convince you to reconsider your vote. I just want you to see how we arrived to the current naming scheme so that you would not consider its supporters as an anti-Ukrainian mafia, as
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1221:. And, since they have no democracy and TV freedom at all (while we have very little), what may the mainstream view be, if not imperialistic shauvenism? While in UA excessive liberalism and (ocassionally stupid) tolerance is the state policy. That was the layout of my POV. But. It IS NOT a usenet group indeed. So I'll try to support my point with balanced editing, links and citations.
1336:, etc. Excessive cats is bad style. If some other battles have excessive tags, we should strip them from there too. Of course if there exists a "History of the particular city" cat already, the battle belongs there too. There is no "History of Kharkiv" category as of yet. How many times should I be asking you to not assume bad faith everytime you find a disagreeable edit? --
1103:- presently the RU shauvenist outpost in Western UA, where tricolored "kazaks" demonstrate their neglegence of the very existence of independent Ukrainian state. I guess Ghirla should develop the pages on few unimportant MP churches in Crimea. Merely to promote the places where Sabodan's "priests" preach their parish to wait until the Poles/Americans/Jews-
148:. Once you see these votings, you will understand that Kazak's comment was made in the context of the potential threat of another bunch of absentee voters. You and I know who invented the trick of using the absentee voters to change the vote outcome from our own country's politics. Too bad that the fervent "patriots" resorted to the same tricks.
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would simply like you to be better informed since my no means I want the scarse number of editors who actually write something for
Ukrainian topics to get even smaller. As I told you earlier, the difference between a troll and an opinionated and, even sometimes disruptive, but a legitimate user is that the latter
1673:. While not such a bad guy, he is very short tempered, impatient, engages into revert wars, and gets excited all to easy. While some of his edits are of narrow specialty nature (like arms and ranks), some were to political articles where he pushed rather questinable views. However, note the familiar names in the
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I could not help to agree, my wife is from Rovno, and when I was there with her family I heard more than a couple of the most horrible strories about the UPA. Like how her grandmother watched as the UPA executed her parents in front of her eyes, or how her grandfather was wounded in UPA ambush whilst
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on myself as well as on others. Frankly, I got tired from you frequently accusing me in intentions I never had and, especially, by the lack of apology even after I explained to you what actually happened and why. This statement here that I intend to drive you out of
Knowledge is just another example.
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I generally welcome constructive criticism at my talk, but messeges such as "Don't be an unjust LIAR" are not constructive, meaningles and spoil the climate. As an exception, I responded but I reserve the right to remove such stuff from my talk without even answering it. I asked you many times to not
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P.P.S. I hope you find my explanation at talk:UA lang satisfactory. Maybe the wording could be improved (I though of it already and could not find a better one yet) but I explained everything in detail. How about "Andrew's descent" article for DYK (the trivia piece about the
Richard the Lion's heart"
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if you prefer so, accept your dedication :). I have a couple of ideas for more Kiev-related DYKable articles. I will come up with them soon at the Portal's notice boards (pls remember to keep them on you watchlist). You are welcome to propose them too. Please note, however, that because of DYK policy
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entry, that would have been a RfDable redirect because the only possible reason behind it is to promote a POV that UPA fighters were just nazis. There is no harm in bringing someone who enters some different transliteration of
Skovoroda in the search string to the article that he is actually looking
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Please stop calling anyone who supports this article a troll and please stop calling for people to be banned just because they disagree with you (and because you don't like their user names). You claim supporting the above article is provocation, but no one is being more provocaive in regards to this
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Hi. You marked the Polish language as disputed. From what I know there are about 4.000 Poles living on Crimea and some Sunday schools for teaching the language to children from that group. There is also a Society of Crimean Poles that works since 1998. It isn't a big group, but I think it could stay
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article. Note that still there is no need to the "History of UA" tag there at the same time. If Kharkiv's coverage develops to half as much as whatever little we have on Kiev, we will create a cat for the History of Kharkiv articles. Your help in expanding the coverage of Kharkiv would be welcome of
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opinionated individuals of our western brothers' heritage. Not only our Romanian friends but other friends and supporters of our independence from a somewhat to the north of Romania are often very difficult to convince in anything. You may be surprised to find out that there isn't much fighting with
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As for the second passage (regardless of UPA itself): I think it's biased and uncompleted. I REALLY don't know if pre-war Polish govt was commiting any atrocities. But I believe the war-time Polish insurgents were. Don't you think that is the most possible explanation for UPA? However, I don't have
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delicate among Poles and there are heaps of research, both credible and completely fantastic. What I'm going to do is to try to rephrase the sentence a little and remove the citation tag. I would like to sincerely suggest that you do not readd it. If this is still bothering you, the much better way
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I am glad you like my edits. I simply had too little time for WP in the last days but I will return to active editing as soon as I can. Of that little time I had, I decided to spend as much as necessary on the RfA, because I feel Sasha was wronged in the previous RfA by trolls/socks and the RfA was
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I'm hear to ask you to stop trying to cause an argument in respct to the deletion notice placed on this article and show some respect for the deletion process of wikipedia. Let it take it's course with regards to this article. It my well be deleted, it might not be, but that decision is not one for
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Yeah, I know what you mean! That's what I keep asking myself. I get online for about 10-15 minutes in the morning, then during lunch (while I eat), and then sometimes in the evening for about an hour. I don't get in the amount of practice I want each day, but I don't think Knowledge has a lot to do
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A couple of questions. Are you sure that Luhansk Oblast is the only not electrified rail in UA? I remember from a while ago, that in the West of Ukraine all the suburban transit was on diesel trains and not Elektrichkas for the very reason of the lack of electrification. Of course things might have
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During the famine of 30ties, Kazakhstan lost about 2.5 million people, southern Russia 2 million, and other republics about 0.5 million. All those facts are basics of history of those countries. Reasonable calculations of Urkainian's losses, as was mentioned in the article, are about 2.5-3 million.
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I did check that and came to conclusion that it was an intentional nonsense inserted to troll readers. No logic at all. Possibly, written under the influence of some "recreational substance". Every each of his about 5 contributions is a senseless grammar-breaking text (except of one obscene photo).
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Hi again. First, a suggestion for you. If you want people to be able to get in touch with you, you are better off enabling the "Email this user" function than listing your address (even encrypted) at the front page. Spambots learn to figure the address from @#$ %, but it is harder for them to press
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Ashamed? No considering that not everyone supported the Orange Revolution and everyone is entitled to a POV. DO I support anti-orange? Well if you have a look in the discussion pages you will not find me there. In principle I try to maintain an apolitical stance but then if someone is going to tilt
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I know that nothing may convince certain Ukrainians that there is no evil Russia behid everything but I am not yet sure that you are one of them. I am not anymore asking you to cool down because it seems to me a futile effort to try to achieve, but since I find most of your contributions useful, I
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you posted your message to Sasha. I will remove yours from his page and it is up to you to restore it of course. But I am telling you for a dozen's time to cool down. This is getting tiresome. Think a bit (at least 10 minutes) before posting an angry response. I hope your useful contributions will
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Hi Lysy. Sorry for delaying my answer. Now to the topic. As for the first my tag (about Poles attitude), it was purely a matter of principle. I DO believe that sentence is correct (except of the POV phrase on tortures). Cause I've been to Poland like many Ukrainians. However not all readers of WP
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is pretty much the same that explain Nazi's invasion of Poland with reaction on the Glivice frontier provokation. Otherwise, the "gesture/gift" version should be extinguished (to achieve neutrality). So I'm going to desribe both. I'll find my quotes, you find yours (I DO insist :) ). Best wishes,
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consider you to be one of them. We managed to agree on things and civilly disagree on others. That's fine of course. However, I noticed that you tend to react too harshly to disagreements, assume bad faith of opponents and react uncivilly. Not once I told you that this is very counterproductive.
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closed in haste with a questionable decision, which I am glad Sasha didn't challenge. And I saw this trolling starting to happen all over again. If anyone is worthy of adminship around here, it is him first of all, due to his commitment to WP, to neutrality, good head and unquestionable ethics.
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If You or Your collegues reverted my balance additions, then I would like to ask for the basis on which it is asserted that the whole Urkaine, including like 20 million Russian people that lived there by census in the late 30s, hoped on Hitler to get independance, and why Ukraine is presented as
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The information that the whole Urkaine hopes on Hitler, wanting to be separate country, and the idea of representing that Urkaine was almost the only subject bad will of the evil "moscali" (to be fair, there was a Georgians and Jews in the government, yet there is nationalism against Russians in
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Not at all was I trying to show off and I am sorry I confused you. AFAIK="As far as I know", OTOH= "On the other hand". There is also an "IMHO" which I've seen even russified. It simply means "In my humble opinion". There are plenty of more abbreviations, hundreds actually, but I do not use the
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by ArbCom (there was only one ArbCom case that involved any of two nations. One needs to be totally over-the-board to reach an ArbCom and this happened just once. The ArbCom case is judged not by a majority but by the most respected members elected there. You may want to think that the massive
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I did not want to edit without discussing this with you first. While I beleive that the cosmonauts may be Soviet and Ukrainian at the same time, I don't think they can be Russian and Ukrainian cosmonauts, do they? I mean "Ukrainian born Russian cosmonaut" is fine. But a Ukrainian cosmonaut for
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rule. The latter rule is very soft on purpose and, therefore, to be clearly in a violation of it one really has to be a dick. Also, such bans are likely to be challenged as controversial, thefore admins usually impose them only when there is no doubt. But these are admin discretion bans and,
1301:. If he's commited to strippping UA history cat. from as much info as he can, should we appreciate his knowledge? In this situation, I would prefer an American schoolgirl able only to correct my typos and grammar, but open, co-operative and civil, rather than such a knowledgeable POV-pusher.
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template to your page. It maybe useful for others looking for a particular language readers, translators. It also speaks about you. If you are a Kievan, I guess you would place something like {{Babel-3|en-2|uk|ru}} but this is of course my guess. Mine is {{Babel-3|en-2|uk-4|ru}} but everyone
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Yet again you "попал пальцем в небо". These were excessive cats. The Cat:Soviet-German War already belongs to the USSR cat via several subcat links. And there are no History of RU or History of UA cat tags in other battles of the war that occured in Russian or Ukrainian territorry. Check
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If applicable sources of this information will not be supplied, I will have to initiate the process of locking the article with cleansing it of all the unsubstantiated nationalistic POV. Activist's articles of "RUH" members and the likes will not be accepted as legitimate source.
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Ukrained, this is not the first time you misinterprete my comments. As far as your article edits go, I have no problem with what you do even though we often disagree on articles. As far as your statements at talk pages go, the big problem I see is the frequent example of your
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know, Ukrainian historians believe that the Crimea was transferred mainly to populate it with Ukrainians (after Tatars mass deportation) and to support its collapsing post-war economy. This sufficiently referenced version should be presented in the article. Stating merely the
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BTW, I believe Armenians do have a larger presence, at least in sense of retaining their identity. It is a traditional ethnic minority of Crimea, and they've got some returning privileges after Stalin's deportation. But it doesn't really matter regarding what I said above.
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I was not talking about the state propaganda but rather of the views of everyday people. As for the rest, you are starting to wear me down with your provocative statements, not quite direct attacks on myself, but close to that. Anyway, after AndriyK my skin grew thicker.
1161:, bring it up case by case and we will try to address it. AndriyK's "concerns"? I would rather say an "agenda". AlexPU's "Not entirely groundless statement"? Could be. But this can be said about most statements, even the nonsense ones. The point is that some editors are
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are rather on the fringe of the mainstream views within both nations. The editors with fringe views are often very active, but seeing the resistance of the wiki-community they, usually, burn out or go to usenet groups or other forums where they find a better audience.
1089:(probably in case if we doubt that Polska has an army:)). If this point spreads through other pages, I'm going to tell him (and everyone) few Halychian jokes about Wojsko Polskie :) Although I like PL and Poles very much. I also appreciate your work on Bukovina stuff.
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rather than emarassing others. If you choose to start the RfC, I will add my thoughts there too. You might not fully like everything that I will post, but I will agree to be a second user to certify the dispute, as required by RfC policy. That said, act as you wish.
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languages in Crimea: Russian, Tatar and Ukrainian. So what would you say if we described Poles and others as minority, avoiding the issue of "speaking" respective languages? Of course you can (and should) add (or rather Wikilink) your info on the Polish diaspora's
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and this is a very painful conclusion. Everyone has a POV and it's fine. Not everyone is possible to work with and this is the most important thing. Our goal here is to build encyclopedia and the RfC you recalled missed the point entirely IMO. I told Halibutt the
1007:. Finally, I think the issue of the RU architecture article is thoroughly discussed. You, as anyone, can return the tag in order to start this all over, but I would give this some thought first. The discussion is very thorough and well-referenced, IMO. Regards, --
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walking his little sister home, the nine year girl was shot dead on the spot. In order to save the teenager the NKVD captain, whilst driving him to the hostpital gave his own blood. I think this perfectely says about who are the real heroes for the Volhynians. --
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and RfA's talk for what he did at the previous Alex's RfA. Two cossacks are so clearly different, that such an accusation cannot be made for any reason other than to add another circus-like twist to the RfA. I did not say "solely" because of 6 hr diff. They are
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As I said, this topic is extremely difficult. It is so easy to find true or fabricated examples of how cruel the UPA, AK, Soviets, Nazis and who not, were in Western Ukraine. It is also extremely emotional especially for those, whose families perished.
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Seems like uoy wasn't actually reading my notes on the RfD. I've listed only semi-orphaned (linked from nowhere) redirects with non-existing spelling/pronunciation. While I left 3 or 4 other redirects intact (see "What links here" on Skovoroda page).
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After I deleted the text as irrelevant in my userspace, Mr.Kazak demanded it to be restored so that evidence of his wrongdoing is kept (see above). Well... that wouldn't be the first alleged breach by this user. So who am I to oppose anyway? :))))
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I hope you are now satisfied by the complete information that you asked for. In the future, to find out who did what was done and by whom, you just need to go to the article's or talk page's history and use the "Compare selected versions" button.
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designed as "another POV" :). I hope this is clear for everybody despite the denials of provocateurs. BTW, may be you have a POV on renaming the planet or a mankind in English? If you would, should we treat such an opinion of yours with respect?
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I read your notes but people may come to articles not just from other articles but from the search string or from clicking on the "Random article" link. The rule of thumb with redirects, is only to delete the harmful, POV or the deceiving ones.
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sockpuppet (no sufficient evidence exists, etc.), and for massively disruptive behavior. I share your claim on Bonny/Yodo, but "being" and "suspected" ar etow different things. (Or may be I missed something and you didn't put all the links
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Are you kidding me, Irpen? Or the readers of my talkpage? I want everyone going to tell fairy-tales here to make a respective warning in the beginning of his text. Even if tales are put down by such a skilled and polite writer as you are
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Ah, I see, although it seems to be a very complicated issue... Bu t don't let anybody equal the "Maidan" and the "Anti-Orange" (especially in the early months of the latter site, when it has been a platforma for mere provokation against
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Ghirla, let me disagree. I can show something too (if you insist): his huge RfC page, his talk posts, Kazak's sincere POV confessions (fortunately, kept mostly on talk) etc. And I can clearly see the (one of the) reason(s) for creating
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article. I just don't know whether it is correct to say that these rapid intercity trains are electrichka's legacy, since the latter has always been perceived as suburban rail transit. I don't know the answers, just some thoughts here.
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And a more general comment. I've been around here for months and you may be surprised to hear but it is a fact that usually it is much easier to find a compromise with certain too opinionated editors from the East of UA than with some
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will be to discuss it in the article's talk page. It is probably the most difficult issue, I have encountered so far on English wiki and I'm not sure how this should be handled, especially with the anonymous trolls around. Peace. --
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Saw the note you left at Duca's page. Allow me to comment. First of all, I've seen this user in the past. He is nothing but a troll and trying to talk reason to him is wasting one's time. He may or may not be a sockpuppet of
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Back to the main issue, the "problem that does exist" about Russian Imperialist propaganda. This reminds me an eternal talk about "Ukrainian nationalism" often brought up to frighten people and rally them. The truth is that
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you posted at Sasha's talk (20:25), so that you can see that they have no connection. There are enough ethical users here and you don't need to go around with embarassing challenges. Please get back to editing articles.
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1116:- an important UA contributor that left for wikibreak with a serious and not entirely groundless statement (of course he's an aggressive filthy-mouth guy). The problem DOES exist, Irpen, and it's not entirely about
2303:. Cultural suppression and assimilation? Yes, but no atrocities. Therefore, I removed the "fact" template user:Ukrained added. It is up to a challenger to give refs that claim atrocities, not the other way around.
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Please chill out now! Your "testing" of Alex Bakharev is inappropriate. It is up to him to get involved in the disputes of others and not you or me to challenge him on that. I already commented on Kazak's page
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Hi! Радий познайомитися! I'll see what I can do to that voting. But keep in mind that I'm a newbie, not very familiar with WP rules. Feel free to explain my rights (as well as wrongdoings:) ). Best wishes -
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in the name (and purpose) of the category. So I started fulfill this. At least we can develop an issue of "Ukrainians in Soviet military" in that way (which is a notable subject in Western ethnic studies).
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Hi. Your info was a surprise for me. I didn't know we have such a big Polish minority in Crimea. Although it's strongly possible. So I downgraded my tepmlate and asking you to replace it with your links.
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for sockpuppetry and using open proxies (I am not aware of such blocks either for Russians or for Ukrainians. The only sock block that I know of (being actually inolved in its discovery) was of Romanian
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Guys, may I ask you to conduct this discussion at the article's talk as most of the article's related discussions should be conducted. Others would then be able to see, the arguments of each side. --
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and act accordingly. I am saying all this here not to get pleasure of lecturing you but to avoid future article disagreements getting ugly. Your tone of mine and several talk pages is unhelpful.
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2115:. Kelly Martin is busy enough checking too many requests. The way to go, it to request the accuser to post an RCU inquiry to follow up on his accusations. The lack of action speaks for itself. --
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in an attempt to install a puppet government in Kiev that soon followed but this was at the very onset of the Polish own independence. Nothing like that I've seen applied to the later times. --
628:(where we have no list, and don't need it), neither to main article, where the raions are listed in English alphabet. Would you re-number your map to English? So we could place it first in
1488:(my connection failed in the middle of the changing the page). BTW, the talk page of that article says I was going to do that. Please sign it for me (I still don't know how). And Irpen,
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So I am suggesting now that my editions would stay. Within time, I will provide links for the information I cited here. Honestly, this will be fair and balanced history of Urkaine then.
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itself, as well as its "Things you can do" window, is also worthy to keep an eye on. You may want to add both of the portal's announcement boards to your watchlist. Всього найкращого, --
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creates content (like your nemesis1 or even nemesis2). Some actions of such non-troll's are sometimes trollish but this is what I call a non-troll who is trolling (verb) rather than
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banned indefinitely. You may be amused to find out that Duca even accused myself in being a sockpuppet of AndriyK who would probably irk from such a comparison as much as I did. See
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It would actually help you to at least appear a somewhat serious person if you give a little thought to what you are saying to avoid talking a plain nonsense. When you write about
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Hi Pecher. I'll see what I can do. But the criteria for that list is rather complicated question. I don't have a definite opinion on it yet. Thanks for alerting the issue for me.
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Another question is about rapid trains. You wrote about Rivne line. I also know about the rapid Kharkiv-Kiev train. How many are there? Also, are you sure this info belongs to
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Again, file an RfC or at least draw some third-party user here to back your accusations (not Kazak, Ghirla or Alex:). Or, renounce of those accusations to prove your civility.
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but it would take some time before your request is processed. hope it helps. btw, I almost fell off my chair laughing after seeing the sockpuppet notice on your user page. --
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Hi, with reference to your message on my talkpage, hardly 20 people have the check user facility to determine sock puppetry and I am not one of them ;). You should try
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Hi again. Thanks for the useful edits you made to several articles. If you start new articles or substantially expand the existing ones, please announce them at
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Gee thanks :) 1985 in Leningrad, first time I went down an escalator and saw the underground world...an impression which lasts a lifetime that was...--
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To your question whether there were ever Russian users banned, perm or tmp, I decided to answer. There are only three/four common ways to get banned:
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You know, you were the one to attack me with your unjust accusations :(. And "remove" anything you wish: this is WEST, this is America,
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thank you for recognizing the fact that I have both right and ratio for questioning Alex Bakharev's neutrality towards RU users.
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for your exceptional enthusiasm, inventiveness, and, especially, for your contribution towards another Ukraine related article,
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I would like to express my thanks to all the good people who spent their valuable time time and effort working on my (failed)
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Sure thing! As for the rename vote, may I ask you to read a long discussion the MichaelZ, myself and a couple of others had at
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I responded to your recent message at my own talk. Please make sure the section headings reflect their content. --
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RU shauvenism is established and encouraged by the state policy of RF, both domestic and foreign (namely of Putin)
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Zdrastuy! Information about the Black Sea Fleet in both Russian and English can be found at their official site,
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I'm Kyivite, and I love Kyiv metro. I'l see what I can do (regarding the fact that I don't have a photo camera).
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Well that's good because I love metro in general. Серьезно фотоапарата нету, даже старенького Зенита?
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