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After the 966 charter, in 967, Werner was not mentioned at all in a charter which involved
Brustem, very close to Gelmen. Jean Baerten explained this by arguing that Werner was no longer count of the same area, because of another (unattested) royal decision to place him elsewhere, and because a more
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This battle near Mons happened after Richer, who had been holding Mons was killed, in
October 972, during an attack on his uncle, Bishop Wicfried of Verdun. Reginar and Lambert attacked from France, the next year. However, they failed to take control at this time, and instead
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reported two important
Lotharingian brothers, Ragnarius and Rodulfus, who were allied to the King of France, the losing side, during a rebellion in that time. In his 1900 article, Vanderkindere had discovered that Reginar II had died before 943. He proposed that
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In 973, various medieval sources report that Werner and his brother Renaud were killed near Mons in
Hainaut, defending the area from Reginar IV and his brother Lambert, who claimed it as their dead rebel father's possession, with French
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In 966, Werner appeared as count of a county which contained Gelmen, near Sint
Truiden. A certain Rudolf (not named as a count) had previously held this estate, but because of his infidelity, in 966 it came to be held by the
255:, and banished to Bohemia where he died. This narrative therefore proposes that Count Rudolf his brother was also removed from positions of importance and Werner had been assigned successor as a Count in the Hesbaye region.
153:, and in the county of ZĂĽlpich, now in Germany. It is noted by historians that the witnesses to this transaction may have been close relatives, including a Richar, a Reginardus who might be his brother, and a Duke Godefrid.
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and Jean
Baerten, have traditionally connected the records involving Werner with other records to propose a narrative whereby Werner and his brother were loyalists to the king and longer term enemies of the
206:, who died in 964. It is possible Werner and Renaud were brothers of Richer, and cousins of Godfrey I of Verdun through his mother, who was a Matfried.
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family, and therefore closely related to his predecessors in
Hainaut: Richer (count from 964 until his death in 972) and Richer's uncle and predecessor
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Die Anfänge des Hauses
Habsburg-Lothringen. Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9., 10. und 11. Jahrhundert
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In 963, or possibly 959, it is proposed that Werner is the count of that name who swapped his lands in Bodeux, close to
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received the County of
Hainaut. This Duke Godfrey died on campaign in Italy in 964 and had no children. His nephew
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356:, 1: Die kölnisch-niederrheinischen Urkunden (Bonn 1922) 201-202. Also see Verdonk, Alzey-Zutphen, 73 note 481.
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Hlawitschka has proposed that he was a member of the
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There are a small number of records proposed for Werner. It is not certain that they are all the same person:
344:, pp. 137, 248–9) believed the charter was from 953. The charter can be found in Halkin and Roland eds,
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region. Such roles were normally performed by counts, or people of similar noble status.
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457:(ed. G.H. Pertz), in: MGH SS I, Hannover 1826, p.623.
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legitimate heir to the Reginars was to be installed.
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